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spray foam insulation

dockelly | Posted in General Discussion on January 2, 2006 05:01am

Happy New Year All!

If you recall, I posted in the past about a 125 year old house on Long Beach Island which I’ve purchased. I had asked about lifting it and have signed a contract to have it done. There are cement block piers for a foundation and there will be block added to this and new piers built in between the old, piers are about 7 ft. apart and now with new will be 3 1/2 ft apart. House will go up about 3 feet. Now to my question, I was searching the web about spray foam, open and closed cell, and came across a sight www.tigerfoam.com, which sells DIY kits. Anyone have experience with application of this stuff? I had planned to spray the underside of the house once I had removed the original floor and installed a subfloor, probably tounge and groove plywood. I think it would be better to do the spraying prior to the hardwood floor install in case some comes through the floor to the living space.

Thanks

Kevin

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    razzman | Jan 07, 2006 10:12pm | #1

    Greetings d,

    This post, in response to your question, will bump the thread through the 'recent discussion' listing again.

    Perhaps it will catch someones attention that can help you with advice.

    Cheers

     

    'Nemo me impune lacesset'
    No one will provoke me with impunity

  2. Boats234 | Jan 07, 2006 11:26pm | #2

    Just went to the website---$15 to $20 Per cu/ft sounds pretty pricey.

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    Mongo | Jan 08, 2006 12:29am | #3

    Looks similar to another, check out fomofoam.com for comparison.

  4. MAsprayfoam | Jan 08, 2006 02:06am | #4

    Hey now.

    Figure out how many DIY kits you need and you may choose to do it yourself.

    I spray Corbond foam in the New England area. NJ is really too far for me personally.

    I used to vacation on LBI but it just got too expensive so now I go to OBX in N Carolina. Funny, I was saying last year when my wife wanted to stay for two weeks that if I had a job to do there at the same time (and pay for the extra week) I would do it!

    Look around and you should find someone to spray a good closed cell (that is the only thing for you to use!) under your house for ~$1 per board ft.

    Good luck,
    Stu

    1. atrident | Jan 08, 2006 02:30am | #5

      I imagine you would need a very good vapor barrier between ceilng and any cavities in between the rafters. How do you do this on a cathedral celing?

    2. dockelly | Jan 08, 2006 03:13am | #6

      "Hey Now"You've got to be a fan of Howard with that greeting. Maybe we can do a barter deal, my house, your time and materials. It's about 500 sq. ft.,
      either way thanks for the reply.Kevin

      1. MAsprayfoam | Jan 08, 2006 03:26am | #7

        yes, have the Sirius all wired in ready for the 9th!

        Wish I didn't have the plans made already for OBX.  I vacation with 3 other of my fraternity brothers and their families.  A U-turn now would be disaster!

        You should expect to pay in the order of $1500-2000.

         

        Stu

        1. dockelly | Jan 08, 2006 03:38am | #8

          Hey Stu

          Not necessarily doing it this year, I'll keep you in mind if I don't get it done.  My Family and I rented in OBX summer '04 in the 4 wheel drive area, wild ponies and all.  We had 22 people for a week and it was great.  Good luck.

           

          Kevin

           

  5. woodman54 | Jan 08, 2006 04:49am | #9

    That website is BS. They come out charging 5 times the quote of a local spray contractor. And you have to do the work yourself!

    1. tb1472000 | Jan 08, 2006 05:10am | #10

      I took a look at both sites.  Guess what.  They are both the same company by the address they both show:

      Commercial Thermal Solutions, Inc.6 Worthington AvenueSpring Lake, NJ 07762

  6. BUIC | Jan 08, 2006 06:36am | #11

       I did my living room with fomofoam this past summer.  It went on well and seems to be performing very well so far this winter. The room is warmer then ever before (the last 18 years). 

       It's a bit messy to apply. Full disposable suit, respirator or tight mask, full face protection are a MUST.  Empty the space below where you'll be spraying, the overspray doesn't come off easily.

       If you want it to go on correctly follow the instructions to the letter, especially the temprature of the tanks.

       It's an expensive way to insulate, but I did it for the comfort and to avoid moisture problems with my newly raised ceiling.  

       I'd have had an insulation contractor do it, but I couldn't get any to come do a single room, so I did it myself.

       I'd do it again, I'm happy with it...Buic 

     

      

  7. MVAgusta | Jan 08, 2006 03:53pm | #12

    There is a foam installer in Belleville,NJ called Energy Savers. They do polyurethane foam at three different densities and have a mold resistant version that might help on LBI. THe other insulator I know of down there is http://www.shoreinsulation.com/, but I think they do cells mostly. IMHO, the DIY kits are only useful if you can't get anyone local and don't mind the absurd price they want.

    1. dockelly | Jan 08, 2006 07:21pm | #13

      Thanks Razz for the bump.  I have read all the posts and have a few questions.  Tigerfoam showed a price of $690.00 for 600 sq ft at 1 inch coverage.  This is expensive?  What would be the thickness of a contractor applied job?  If 2 inches or more for $1500 to 2000, per MAsprayfoam post,  than no point in doing it myself.  If they also apply 1 inch, than the savings is significant.  Also checked out the shoreinsulation site and seems they mostly do spray cellulose, did say foam on there site but no discussion of it there.  I'll call them, thanks for the info.  I like the idea of a mold inhibitor foam.

       

      Thanks

      Kevin

       

      1. BUIC | Jan 08, 2006 11:40pm | #14

        Doc - Don't only look at inches of thickness, be sure to check R - value per inch.  Varies greatly with different foams... Buic

      2. MAsprayfoam | Jan 09, 2006 01:17am | #15

        i was estimating 3" thick which is R18-22 depending on the brand of closed cell foam. Remember the $600 is for product only. No labor included or other required material like tarps and the like. FYI, I usually charge ~$0.85 per bd-ft for Corbond. Small jobs sometimes more.Stu

        1. dockelly | Jan 09, 2006 06:09pm | #16

          Stu

          YOUR HIRED! How's tommorrow sound?

          Thanks for the info.

          Kevin

           

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