Spray Foaming an Old, Vented Attic
I have a few questions about spray foaming my attic. If I decide to move forward, the work will be done by a professional. I’m hoping the folks on this forum who are a lot more knowledgeable than I can help me with my decision.
First, some details:
– House is in Northern NJ
– Built in the mid-1940s
– Stick construction
– Relatively simple gable roof currently covered with asphalt shingles that will probably need to be replaced in the next five years
– The roof stops at the edge of the house – there are no eaves/soffits, and thus no eave/soffit vents
– The attic is vented by two gable vents and three roof deck vents (there is no ridge vent)
– Attic floor area is about 700 square feet, and it’s currently covered with really old (paper crumbles when you touch it) fiberglass batt
– Home energy auditor estimated the current ceiling R-value to be about R-4, and there is no air sealing
– Attic contains central air equipment and ducts and is also used for storage
– Ceilings are plaster over what appears to be a precursor to drywall (no lath)
– The ceilings curve down along the front/rear walls of the house where the pitch of the roof encroaches on the rooms
I have a spray foam contractor coming out on Sunday to provide a quote. Over the phone, we discussed lightly spray foaming the floor of the attic for air sealing, and then spray foaming the rafters and gables for insulation.
Essentially, this would create an unvented attic.
Here’s how I’m thinking about this:
Pros:
– R-value is R-value, so spray foam will improve comfort just as much as the equivalent R-value of cellulose
– Better air sealing than cellulose
– Not as messy as cellulose both in general, and especially if the roof were to ever leak (fortunately, haven’t had this problem)
– Creates an unvented/semi-conditioned space, which will improve the performance of the HVAC equipment
– Potential to stiffen up the structure, especially with closed-cell (not that it needs it, just a side benefit)
Cons:
– Price, based on what I’ve read
– Permancy (won’t be able to get to wires/electrical boxes without some serious foam removal)
– Flammability
– Potential to hide problems (like a leaky roof deck)
Overall, money aside, my feeling is that an equivalent R-value of spray foam will improve comfort and efficiency more than cellulose. And I like the idea of an unvented/semi-conditioned space for the HVAC equipment and the stuff I store up there.
Am I missing any major downsides? Are there horror stories out there about people converting vented attics to unvented in old houses and causing tons of domino-effect problems? Any reasons not to do this?
Any info you can provide will be appreciated. Thanks!
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Only today did a foam contractor give me the 'foam the underside of the roof & seal the attic' pitch. I told him that would require a complete re-evaluation of my intended remodel, as I intend to vent the hell out of my attic.
I went on to explain ... I had once lived in some pre-fab, super-insulated housing in a very similar climate. We had 4" of foam on the roof. The units were hot as Hades in the afternoon. When we added a lightweight, well-vented "roof" over the units, interior comfort improved considerably.
Thus, it's my theory that one function of a roof is to keep the house "in the shade." I think you still need this action. I doubt I would add the attic to my 'conditioned envelope' without there being another "cold" roof over the actual roof.
Spray Foaming Attic
That was the best thing I ever did to my 100 year old house! It made the air sealing much simpler, and the bedrooms actually stayed cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter than before the spray foam was applied. We completely covered the rafters and gable studs to limit thermal bridging. There wasn't any HVAC equipment in my attic though, so I don't know what effect it would have. At the same time we foamed the basement walls (some stone, some concrete) and the joist bays. Eliminating that condensing surface made a remarkable improvement in both air quality and moisture level in the basement. Total cost here in Nova Scotia (2008) was $11,000, expensive, but we immediately began seeing a return on our investment. Just my 2 cents worth, but I recommend it. Slainte Mhath.