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   Sphere | Feb 19, 2004 04:02pm | #1

   Find another cabinet maker..a small champher works, or even a 1/8 in. radius..3/8 for cabinets? He's nuts.

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   UncleDunc | Feb 19, 2004 04:10pm | #2

   Ditto what Sphere said. If this guy can't finish a small chamfer or radius, he's got a finish problem.

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   Mongo | Feb 19, 2004 04:27pm | #3

   Splintering will normally not be a problem, but getting a film finish to adhere to, then wear well, on a sharp 90-degree corner can be.

   Still, all that is needed is for the edge to be slightly eased with sandpaper, or at the most, just grazed with a roundover bit.

   3/8ths? Way too much. All you need to to have the edge eased...and by "eased", I mean that the sharpness just has to be taken off.

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   davidmeiland | Feb 19, 2004 06:30pm | #4

   A whole house full of California roundover? Gawd. The 70s were a long time ago. Is it coming back?

   All that's needed is to hit the edge quickly with sandpaper to take the sharp corner off. This does not take a router. Not sure why the cabinetmaker is bitchin' since it's more work to rout than to quickly break the edges.

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   KRettger | Feb 19, 2004 09:12pm | #5

   Hey shawn00sa,

   David mieland (sp) has got it right. All you need is to hit it with light going over of sandpaper.

   Sometimes though some people use different language when referring to the same thing. Therefore I offer the following:

   A "truly" sharp outside 90 degree corner made of wood usually does not take well to a good coat of paint. Sometimes it leaves a little black or dark bead on the tip of the outside corner. Now, my definition of "sharp" means exactly that. If you take your finger and press down on the outside corner and then "run" your finger down it, and you either cut your finger or it is painful, well then hell ya--- that's a "sharp" corner.

   However, you can achieve the exact same visual effect on the finished product (minus the dark bead) just by lightly hitting the sharp edge with fine to extra fine sandpaper. Though the edge is no longer "sharp" it still ends up giving a VERY ''crisp" look to your finished product.

   We just finished doing a large condo project trimmed out in 1x4 to 1x8 trim. As we went along we (the finish and trim carpenters) did our own caulking and sanding (as the nitwit GC supplied us with NASTY looking trim, and we HAD to have a great looking finished product) using the above technique and I promise you the thousands of linear ft. of this trim came out lookiing great.

   Get a carpenter or cabinet maker who knows what he is doing or you are just cruising for a bruising.

   Cork in Chicago

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   MalibuJim | Feb 19, 2004 09:12pm | #6

   I'm a cabinetmaker and I can tell you that a slight radius, about 1/16" max. is acceptable for ALL finishes.  The only time a finish wants to pull away is when the corner is sharp.  When I order doors from the door manufacturer and specify square edge, they come with corners eased, again, about 1/16" rad. max.  They've been doing this for many years and it works fine.

   Splintering WILL occur if you are using particular woods such as douglas fir (a popular craftsman wood).  What wood are you considering here?  I'm really curious as I plan on incorporating many craftsman elements in our new home this year.

   By the way, there are many craftsman trim applications where rather large radii are used.  I saw plenty of them in the Gamble house in Pasadena.

   Thanks,

   Tony

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   shawn00sa | Feb 20, 2004 05:00am | #7

   I am planning on using cherry. I just bought about 4000 board ft for $850. (no I can not get anymore) We were doing some work for a saw mill that had these boards just sitting there. I mentioned that I was building a new house and they made me a great deal. I am taking it to have it kiln dried tomorrow then to the cabinet maker when it is dried.

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   DougU | Feb 20, 2004 07:21am | #8

   Shawn

    I just bought about 4000 board ft for $850.

   Hell I dont care if you cant get any more, that will do me just fine, I'll give you $900, I wouldnt want to cheat you out of your profit!

   Doug

    

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   Piffin | Feb 20, 2004 09:12am | #9

   Find a different cab guy.This one doesn't sound like one to trust with that much quality work. He either doesn't know his stuff or is feeding you a line. 

    

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