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Staining Concrete Problem

CloudHidden | Posted in Construction Techniques on May 27, 2006 08:48am

Client was planning to stain concrete floors. They’d been scored in a nice pattern and properly troweled. Time dragged on, and the client reports that the concrete won’t stain where the tape was that held the paper down to protect the floor for the duration. Don’t know how much she tried or if they just did a test spot. Any ideas on salvaging this without needing other floor covering? Worried that cleaning agents will affect concrete just as thoroughly as tape residue has.

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  1. calvin | May 27, 2006 08:51pm | #1

    What kind of tape, duct or masking?

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      CloudHidden | May 27, 2006 08:54pm | #2

      Sorry, don't yet know. How would the answers differ?

      1. calvin | May 27, 2006 09:01pm | #4

        Some tape adhesive residue would be water soluble, others thinner or some other solvent.A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.

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    Sphere | May 27, 2006 08:56pm | #3

    spot sandblast the affected areas.

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  3. andybuildz | May 27, 2006 09:35pm | #5

    Sounds like they didn't try too much...or did they?
    Could it be as easy as sanding the effected areas with a 36 grit up to as Sphere says sandblasting. In other words trying the most gentle way first. Might be as easy as that. I would think that any liquid would take it further into the concrete. I'd probably even gently try a torch in areas and see how that works.

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      CloudHidden | May 27, 2006 09:41pm | #6

      Don't know what they tried. Just got the note as part of another communique, and I'm trying to find info and solution before they get too far into some alternative floor covering.

      1. brownbagg | May 27, 2006 10:12pm | #7

        clean the floor real good, reapply the stain, add 1% murtic acid to stain.

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          CloudHidden | May 27, 2006 10:28pm | #8

          From client: "It was blue painters tape mainly, but some duct tape.
          We had tried sanding, scaping with very sharp putty
          knife, alcohol. I have not given up. We have utility
          room floor the test cleaning and staining samples. "

  4. Danusan11 | May 27, 2006 10:46pm | #9

    3m adhesive remover

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      CloudHidden | May 27, 2006 10:56pm | #10

      Any worries that it'll be absorbed into the crete and then affect the stain?

      1. Danusan11 | May 27, 2006 11:24pm | #14

        Can't verify that, but used it alot when I repair boats, before paint.

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    zak | May 27, 2006 11:02pm | #11

    I'd try etching with a mild muriatic acid, then rinsing well.  Whatever they do, spot test before the whole floor.

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    "so it goes"

    1. ronbudgell | May 27, 2006 11:09pm | #12

      I believe I read that acid stains will not work on concrete after a treatment with muriatic. The reaction potential has been used up by the first acid.

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        zak | May 27, 2006 11:33pm | #15

        That may be, I'm no expert.  I have some friends whol stained some of their concrete, and acid etched first.  Their stain wasn't an acid stain though, they might have just cobbled something together with paint colorants and concrete sealer.  still looks good after 8 years.zak

        "so it goes"

      2. brownbagg | May 27, 2006 11:40pm | #16

        acid stains will not work on concrete after a treatment with muriatic.yes

        1. brownbagg | May 27, 2006 11:45pm | #17

          acid stains are basically, different salts that react with the cement to create colors. different salts, different colors. The acid is a mild 1% that weaken the cement so the salts can soak in. Some concrete are just too hard. so yoadd a small amount of addition acid to aid. If you acid clean the slab before staining, you have no cement to react with.

  6. dug | May 27, 2006 11:22pm | #13

          4.5'' grinder and a wire cup brush?   I'm about to try this on some old outdoor carpet adhesive before I tile.  We'll see!

  7. ruffmike | May 28, 2006 02:30am | #18

    If you haven't solved this problem yet, try the boards at http://www.acidstain.com

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