In due deference to the “Stair King” Stan, and fellow Ford County native, enclosed is a little number we’re building on site, with a mantel bonus. Not quite up to Stan’s work, but we’re trying.
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Wow! I like it.
Somebody will come along and resize the pics, so I won't do it here. I just had a few questions.
1. Your baluster sets with the transverse shorties. Please describe the joinery, shorties to uprights, and subassembly to floor and rail.
2. Are we seeing red or white oak? I can't tell for sure.
3. Are the stairs built with housed stringers, or are they carriages with applied treads, risers, and skirts?
4. I cannot tell for sure. Are those flat newel caps simple cut boards, or are they done with joinery from multiple pieces so as not to expose any end grain?
5. On the fireplace front, are we seeing any pocket screw joinery, or is it mortise and tenon, or coped sticks, or what?
The newels are mitered 1x6, with mitered 1 x's top and bottom. Applica's glued and pinned. Caps all mitered. Red oak. The stair is 3 stories, both housed and open stringers with wainscot on the walls. Railings 5/4 top and bottom with a 2x2 stem. Railing screwed to the balusters and then top 5/4 applied. Balasters doweled to tread.Waniscot and mantels, there are a couple, 1x frames, rabbited with ply insert panels, all pocket joined.Thanks.Never serious, but always right.
Oh forgot the "shorties". I started out thinking I would pin nail and glue using a jig for separation. Best laid plans. Because of the staining complexity, we stained 1st then assembled. The glue wouldn't hold to the lacquered stained balusters. Soooo.Using a set of individual spacing jigs I set a shorty on end, double pin nailed it, then drill end ways through the shorty into the baluster and screwed it with a sq drive trim screw, then added the 2nd baluster, drilled and screwed it, then the 2nd set of shorties, pinned and screwed them, and finally added the final baluster pinned and screwed it.Because of the pre-staing mistake, this process was far more time consuming than expected. But the assembly is rock solid.Another draw back, I did so much screwing I got tendonitis.And for all my fellow sick aholes (and we know who you are) that lurk here. I've already suffered all the clever "screw" jokes, so forget it.Never serious, but always right.
Would a Festool Domino have been useful on the stair job?
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The smallest loose tenon (5 x 30), if the tool were set to the "fixing" sized mortise, looks as if the mortise size is about 9/16" broad.
That would work if your balusters and shorties were all, say, 7/8 square.
It would be tight if the size of everything was 3/4 square, but I think it could work. You would need a little fixing jig to contain a shortie while the Domino cuts the into-the-end mortise.
Looks as if there are some special introductory offers for the Domino, down around $660.
Edited 3/18/2007 4:30 pm ET by Gene_Davis
I'll certainly look into it. Thanks. The shorties are a little under 2x2, the baluster and the shorty (space) are equal.Never serious, but always right.
JRuss: That is some fantastic work. Please....I couldnt have done any better and probably couldnt have done as nice.
That shows a lot of thought , and patience to execute it so well.
Dont get any closer to Paxton,,,ok?
Stan
Certainly your crown is not in jeopardy. You remain the "King" with work that makes us aspire.Was down last weekend Lisa should have bought you a coffee, if not demand my money back.Never serious, but always right.
I just got something in the mail about that tool. Looks like something I could have used last summer. I do a lot of porch rails and gate work.
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I really like that style. That had to take a ton of hours.
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2 of us 3, 6 day weeks and we still have a little wainscot and detail to go.Never serious, but always right.
Every bit of that time shows in the work. Really nice stuff. Thanks for posting it.
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Edited 3/18/2007 12:47 pm ET by Gunner
Wonderful, I like it! Did somebody give the homeowner a roll of blue tape? :o)
We halogen light the walls for drywall imperfections. The blue tape marks the areas of spot imperfections.Personally I'm not quite that anal, but my painter is. To keep the drywaller from a murder rap or worse quitting (they're good), I always add a couple of man days for touch up.Never serious, but always right.
I think you are selling yourself short in the comparision to Stans work.
Beautiful workmanship and congratulations!
No, Stan does eclipses, curved, etc. He's the master. Stan and I hail from 20 miles from one another. He was allowed to stay, they ran me off.Also, while I was involved in the design and fabrication my trim carpenter was the real installer and deserves most of the credit for the final result.Never serious, but always right.
JRuss
Nice work, good detail. And dont sell yourself short, thats some impressive work. I doubt Stan would have made it look any better!
Doug
Awesome work! Sounds like a fun project. Thanks for posting.
Mike
Beautiful work. Nice shades of Prairie Style and FLW.
Really, really, really nice work.... keep it up....did you do the design yourself or have you done a similar style before this project? It seems that work evolves but if this is your 1st try, its going to get better from here? (I'm havin' a tough time getting my head around that one...) Keep making sawdust......
Cheers.....J
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We do this kind of work but usually the architect or interior designer lays out the details. Usually it's combinations of stock mouldings, architectural elements, and most of the case work is done by a shop, I'm sure you know the drill.In this case there was no interior design. The owner, a chief of nurosurgery, gets it, knows our work and wanted something unique, has an eye for design, and let us run with it. I'm sure you know, being able to run with it, is a very rare opportunity. Also he "brain stormed" (get it) our ideas with us, added a few tricks of his own and got a one of a kind result. With the exception of the cabinets, everything in the house was cut, shaped, assembled and finished on site from flat stock. We set up a shop in the 3 car garage and fashioned all the trim, stairs, built-ins, etc with everyday shop and power hand tools, mostly purchased from HD. The home is relatively small, a 3400 sq ft Prairie, but a doll house. It also helps to have the trust of a great owner.I asked the owner based on his profession if he could maybe give me a little in skull tune up, I'm puttin up some years. Maybe grind the ole valves and a new set of rings? He assured me there would be no reason to do a $500,000 operation on a $2 head.Never serious, but always right.
That is some beautiful work.
Want to see a coincidence?
This is a balcony I whipped up for a customer in 2002. The post trim isn't complete but check out the balusters.<G>
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Edited 3/20/2007 11:03 pm ET by RalphWicklund
What can I say, other than you are obviously a creative genius.Actually a very nice idea.Never serious, but always right.
I'm still waiting for somebody to resize these after reading all the great compliments.
I didn't realize you did anythin other than POL posts...
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Edited 3/20/2007 5:19 pm ET by Mugsy
Thanks, dust catchers like that might be worth downloading the whole full size ones!
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They were resized, I don't know why they're back to overkill.Never serious, but always right.
Got any pics of the rest of the joint?<G> Outside of the gates the trucks were unloadin',
The weather was hot, a-nearly 90 degrees.
The man standin' next to me, his head was exploding,
Well, I was prayin' the pieces wouldn't fall on me.
It's being prept for paint. It should be ready to unwrap in about a week. There are some other intersting details will post later. Never serious, but always right.
That is beautiful!!
Nice design, nicer execution. I particularly like the mantle, especially the mouseholes<G>
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Outside of the gates the trucks were unloadin',
The weather was hot, a-nearly 90 degrees.
The man standin' next to me, his head was exploding,
Well, I was prayin' the pieces wouldn't fall on me.
Edited 3/20/2007 5:35 pm ET by Snort
and thanks again!
Nice stuff ain't it?
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