New here and thought that I’d ask a question that’s been bothering me for a long time. Do tapers in your area get away with doing ridiculously bad work? We can’t seem to find anyone that knows how to fill. Or fade. Or sand. I’m talking about ridges at butt joints that could hide a small dog, pock marks everywhere, inside corners that become more of a radius than a corner, outside corners that aren’t filled and create gaps of 1/4″ or more behind the baseboard. Every taping sub that we hire wants to put on two thin coats and run away. And the boss says that I’m “too picky” when I tape jobs – translated: “not fast enough.” (It’s smooth and flat when I finish, though!)
It’s not just the guys doing remodel, either. I’ve been into a handful of recently built houses and a cursory glance at the walls revealed the same problems that we’re seeing. What gives? Do people just not care how bad their walls and ceilngs look? And how do the guys doing this quality of work sleep at night?
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The drywall guys that work the houses we frame smoke like chimneys, cuss like sailors, listen to nasty music, hang board at 100 miles an hour, fill up a dumpster per day, and do a great job with the mud. It looks very good in there when they're done.
where do ya live? fill in yer profile so we can harass you a little and you might want access to The Tavern but it'll cost ya dearly.
Welcome btw.
And all the dry wallers around here that do work for me do good work.
You must live in Iraq...Those Halliburtan nudnicks are only in for publicity...and it ain't lookin' good
" If you do not make it empty, how will you fill it up again?"
Neem Karoli Baba
No taping, finishing, or accessories required.
All joints and interior angles shall have tape set in joint compound. Surface shall be free of excess joint compound. Tool marks and ridges are acceptable.
Some degree of sound and smoke control is provided; in some geographic areas this level is referred to as ãfire taping.ä Where a fire-resistance rating is required for the gypsum board assembly, details of construction shall be in accordance with reports of fire tests of assemblies that have met the fire-rating requirement. Tape and fastener heads need not be covered with joint compound.
All joints and interior angles shall have tape embedded in joint compound and wiped with a joint knife leaving a thin coating of joint compound over all joints and interior angles. Fastener heads and accessories shall be covered with a coat of joint compound. Surface shall be free of excess joint compound tool marks and ridges are acceptable. Joint compound applied over the body of the tape at the time of tape embedment shall be considered a separate coat of joint compound and shall satisfy the conditions of this level.
All joints and interior angles shall have tape embedded in joint compound and one additional coat of joint compound applied over all joints and interior angles. Fastener heads and accessories shall be covered with two separate coats of joint compound. All joint compound shall be covered with two separate coats of joint compound. All joint compound shall be smooth and free of tool marks and ridges. NOTE: It is recommended that the prepared surface be coated with a drywall primer prior to the application of final finishes. (See painting/ wall covering specification in this regard.)
All joints and interior angles shall have tape embedded in joint compound and two separate coats of joint compound applied over all flat joints and one separate coat of joint compound applied over interior angles. Fastener heads and accessories shall be covered with three separate coats of joint compound. All joint compound shall be smooth and free of tool marks and ridges. NOTE: It is recommended that the prepared surface be coated with a drywall primer prior to the application of final finishes. (See painting/ wall covering specification in this regard.)
The weight, texture, and sheen level of wall coverings applied over this level of finish should be carefully evaluated. Joints and fasteners must be adequately concealed if the wall covering material is lightweight, contains limited pattern, has a gloss finish, or any combination of these finishes is present. Unbacked vinyl wall coverings are not recommended over this level of finish.
All joints and interior angles shall have tape embedded in joint compound and two separate coats of joint compound applied over all flat joints and one separate coat of joint compound applied over interior angles. Fastener heads and accessories shall be covered with three separate coats of joint compound. A thin skim coat of joint compound or a material manufactured especially for this purpose, shall be applied to the entire surface. The surface shall be smooth and fee of tool marks and ridges. NOTE: It is recommended that the prepared surface be coated with a drywall primer prior to the application of finish paint. Se painting specification in this regard.
The highest quality finish is the most effective method to provide a uniform surface and minimize the possibility of joint photographing and of fasteners showing through the final decoration.
Provided courtesy of:
Hard Drywall, Inc. -- 578 Martin Avenue-- Rohnert Park, CA 94928
(707) 686-2400
"The reason women fart less than men is that they never stop talking long enough to build up any pressure."
LEVEL 6 Sub it out" If you do not make it empty, how will you fill it up again?"
Neem Karoli Baba
i'm with you...i got fast at it though so no-one breaks my balls about slow...plus i worked with a pro taper and got to see how it was done fast...and then i bought a darby and now i have levelled out ceilings and walls with mud...cement finishing trowels and a hawk bring out a truer surface than taping knives...to much flex especially at the outside corners where you can see it dip in.
Goes back to you get what you pay for.
Just so happens Myraid's post is a company close to me, and those standards are generally met, but there is still shoddy work and there always will be.
Also, a saying we use is "drywall don't lie". If you got wavy studs, your gonna get wavy walls.
Mike
Trust in God, but row away from the rocks.