looks like we’ll get the foundation in before the weather goes to hades
and
screw the framer (aka- “hapless hubcap”)
you would think I would treat myself better.
anyway
gps and robotics sure have changed staking a house- took the surveyors all of forty minutes to set all the hubs. (about twenty)
in fact they worked so fast I didn’t get any pictures of them
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The excavators showed up in force and we have a perfectly good hole to play with
Cool - what's that behind - the bandstand?
Grandstand?
Forrest - watchin'
Boathouse with a huge deck over.
I built those about six years ago I think.No Tag
What was the temp? Looked like the guy standing there was cold!
it was maybe thirty five
fair bit of a breeze
first cold wind we have had. supposed to be sunny and mid fifties the next couple of days...No Tag
Southern Ohio?
Indian Lake.
Bellefountaine, OhioNo Tag
Someone's building a house? Alert the media... ;)PaulB
http://www.makeabettertomorrow.com
http://www.finecontracting.com
no kidding.
hasn't been too hard scheduling subs.No Tag
"Someone's building a house? Alert the media... ;)
PaulB"
Cleaning soda off my keyboard and outta my nose...
Hey hubcap, i do alot of work in the upper arlington area would be nice to get together sometime. I keep a small crew and sub some int, ext trim on occasion but mostly frame
Nice Project.
I'll stay tuned.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
I'm game.
I did a lot of work in UA about a thousand years ago.
I'll send you an e-mail
come to think of it I did a bit of work in Chillicothe back when it was still the state capitol maybe...No Tag
Chillicothe. snork
Edited 10/30/2008 9:42 pm by dovetail97128
heeey!!! whats wrong with CHILLICOTHE?!!
Not a thing. Just laughing at the "since Chillicothe was the state capital". That was 1816 wasn't it?
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
footers forming up
perimeter tile and sump basket going in
slingin' stone
should pour tomorrowNo Tag
uhm
ouch them last two pics are hugeNo Tag
You going to be able to fit a couple of fairways in around that giant water hazard? :)
Congrats on the project. Look forward to the updates.
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I categorically deny killing time on a nearby links.
However- this sign has some mysterious draw for meNo Tag
okay a few more prepNo Tag
add mudNo Tag
looked like they were installing it right side up so I left.
tomorrow we will start the walls and do some trenching
maybe make a sewer tapNo Tag
No footing forms? From the pics it looks as if you placed the mud directly against the pipes. Is the inner pipe a "radon" pipe or a drain pipe?
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Can you get them pictures any bigger? My 4 screen aray can handle it.You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.
Marv
Almost no form boards.
Pretty slick system- the tile gets laid out and leveled (form stakes are 1/4" rod with a heavy wire hook that engages the pipe. The top of the rod is coarsely threaded and the hook moves up and down the threads to adjust for elevation.) The pipe is kept from spreading by the stakes and gravel.
Basically all they are doing is "form four/ dig four" but there is nothing to strip. Couple that with using the track hoe for the dig part and it is very efficient. ( and no form boards that need replaced as they wear out.)
Both tiles are drainage to daylight coupled with a sump. Maybe overkill but nobody likes wet "feet."No Tag
Interesting system. That is a new one on me.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
if U don't want me showing up begging work from U ...
U shouldn't oughta post pictures on the internet.
U know I kan't read but is real gud at finding places from pictures ...
Framing ... in the cold. Count me out.
I'm smart ... I scheduled siding instead!
I hate working out in the cold ...
wait a second ...
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
what is this cold...
global warming
baby.No Tag
Did somebody mention cold? Doesnt feel much like global warming here in northern Alberta. -32 this morning.
Edited 1/12/2009 9:32 pm ET by ovrbord
ouch.
"...check please..."No Tag
Going to show a pic of the last house but somehow can't attach. suggestions
afraid I barely know enough to post my own
try making a new discussion- something like "Newbie needs help posting pictures."
welcome aboard by the wayNo Tag
Thanks, look forward to the chatting and I'm sure I'll figure it out. I'm a better contractor than computer geek. There goes my future in IT
Broke the record high for the day by 9am in a couple of locations in the SF Bay area. Third year of the drought is looking more & more certain. I hate water rationing, dead lawns & plants, get wet - turn off shower - soap up - quick rinse, ...
On the other hand, -32 Yikes! DW has family in Fargo - no idea how they do it!
I do like the bay area- and San Diego.
Few more shots
framed and stood another wall
the wind was starting to whistle through my earballs so I packed up and left.
It's my anniversary and I need get something special for the long suffering missus.
What kind of nail gun do you suppose she wants the most?
or maybe a new laser is more appropriate...
hmmNo Tag
Leave the windows not cut out to keep the wind off your neck?
yep
might make tomorrow tolerableNo Tag
that looks nice - very clean framing. I'm guessing you've built a house or two before this?
but I gotta add: Brrrrrrrr!
Man, I'd be working some SHORT days if that were me out there!"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
I guess I have built - maybe- twenty five or so. Not counting any of the stuff I just framed.
Weather...It really isn't that bad out. Shoot last week I was running around in shorts.
When I was a kid we had real cold- we had to put up a fence to keep the wooly mammoths off the merry go round...
That's a true story.
Hey your project is shaping up great.No Tag
So. Cal. - We deal more with heat than cold here. Summers get so hot I've seen a rubber hose curl up just to get in the shade of a chain link fence!"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
Summers get so hot I've seen a rubber hose curl up just to get in the shade of a chain link fence
I think I would like to see that!
Today was not a bad day
snowed some
interior walls up -strung and braced straight
exterior walls - same deal
cj's installed
move over to the area above the garage next
should be setting some rafters by middle of next weekNo Tag
funniest part is that So Cal doesn't even really know what "hot" is either!
Spend a "hot" day in Ohio ... or PA ... and you'll see the difference.
99 in the middle of Ohio equals like 159 anywhere in Cali. (death valley included, all things considered ... not so hot)
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
edit to say ... I've "vacationed" all over Cali ...
and have "worked" all over Ohio and PA.
might make for a "technical difference" there!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
No, you're right about that. East coast heat is nasty. One summer, I remember sitting up, a river of sweat ran down my chest. 90 degrees and 99 % humidity. When sitting up is sweat soaking exercise, something's wrong.
Still, the southwest gets hot. There was a guy who wrote a story about the time he hid under a mesquite tree in 125 degree heat. After a while, he noticed a jackrabbit in the same shade. After a while, the jackrabbit noticed him. The jackrabbit got spooked, and ran out into the desert. After about twenty feet, the jackrabbit stopped, thought about it, and re-joined him under the tree, where they waited together until sunset...
k
East coast heat is nasty
I can recall one summer in Rhode Island where I went to the beach for a swim - honestly had a hard time telling the difference between being in the water and out - in, the humidity was a little higher."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
I've lived a coupla places and traveled the states ... and world ... a bit.
Moved from Pittsburgh straight to Houston and worked as a carpet cleaner.
that can be as physical as any carpentry work, and working inside unA/C'd houses was the worst. But once the sweat started pouring I was fine.
Only time I ever passed out cold from heat exhaustion was right here in Pgh pouring concrete on a 100 deg August day. Never worked in Vegas, but spent a day walking the strip. While the reflected heat from the sidewalk burned the backs of our legs ... it still wasn't a "painful" heat. Gunner's right ... humidity is the killer.
that .. and the lack of cocktail waitresses with free drinks!
never saw a one of them in the Ohio corn fields!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Oh, by the way, it was sixty-six and sunny today in the east bay.
k
we're f'd for water, though.
warmer than that here today.
Had a 15 yr low ... planned for today off on Monday.
all day ... 68 degrees! 9according to the thermostat)
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
all day ... 68 degrees!
Yeah, ok. ;)
seriously, though, we're f'd water-wise. You're better off in Pa.
k
Pittsburgh is the land of the Three Rivers.
Pgh is in Allegheny County.
coupla years ago we had a state wide water conservation watch. Talks of limits on washing the car or watering the lawn. At the time I was a bartender on a river boat fleet.
A local river boat captain who knew the local waters well fought against the state wide ruling. His logic was he saw thousands of gallons of water a day go over the spillways. Said being the basin, we'd never go low. Every mountain from mid state over all drained into our basin.
he eventially got things straightened out, so now when Philly County in the east is having a drought, we're not punished here in the S.W.
like Dad said ... if yer ever lost, follow a turtle ... they always lead U to water!
a real rule of thumb in these parts is if U are truely lost, usually driving, drive till U find some running water, then drive and follow it. Down hill. Here, always leads to either a railroad or a river. And both always lead from the sticks to some major city/town. And there's yer highway.
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
some of us went out and played in the snow
and ice
got another gable wall framed and stoodNo Tag
Tim, How about a close up shot of the "shoes" that are at the bottom of your wall jack 2x's. I have never seen anything like them.
Where did you get them from?
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Got them thru my lumber supplier
qualcraft I thinkNo Tag
Nice !!
Beats the toe nails into the bottom of the 2x backed by a block. I will have to see if I can find a couple of them.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
qual craft 2602 wind hook accessory kit
$49.00 @ amazonNo Tag
perfect winter day today
about 14 degrees- no wind- bright sun
sunset ain't badNo Tag
still working by yourself? lookin good!
for the most part
still doing the lone ranger thingNo Tag
I'm changing the bearing height for the rafters in this room so there is more useable floor space.
The prints called for 18" but we are going with 60".
I'll stretch the knee walls tomorrow.No Tag
I'm changing the bearing height for the rafters in this room so there is more useable floor space. The prints called for 18" but we are going with 60".
so that's why the knee walls are so much lower than the low end of the gable end walls? The knee walls are coming up. Won't that create a hinge point, tho?"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
No hinge- I sistered new studs in.
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dougy...... ahem....
your posts keep interrupting bucks story..... can you restrain your self ?Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
my wife wants to know what I am laughing at...
if I retire to my corner until he is finished...No Tag
the nerve of that guy!
i tell ya ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
so then ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
getting closer to the promised land
or some such nonsense
I have two more large microlamms to wrestle with
and got one up to the second floor and bolted together
raise it into position in the morning ,post, and brace it off
maybe set some rafters Friday or SaturdayNo Tag
end of the dayNo Tag
I walked out on the ice to see what the boys were catching
bluegill and saugeyeNo Tag
ridge beam is up and not quite finished
no posts
homeowner wants to think about whether he wants the whole beam showing below the ceiling
anyway-
getting a little crowded with all the scafolding and 2x bracing
beam went up easy
hopefully tomorrow I will remember how to cut rafters
pointy end goes up?No Tag
it's amazing what one person who is not afraid of work can do!
Thanks Mike.
I think it is something my parents inbred in me- ooh- that didn't come out right.
uh- instilled.
so...
gorgeous day out there today eh?No Tag
oh....i don't know.......i've always been afraid of work... spend an inordinate amount of time figgerin how to delegate
hey, dougy..... nice .... great eye-candy for the owner
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what's the piece of furring tacked to the middle of the beam ?Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
That piece ofurrung is to hang tool belt on when you take a break in the sun there and want to lay back on that aluminum deck up there.
well......of courseMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Thanks Mike,
That kept the long gable brace pushed over so the bolts in the beam cleared as I raised it.No Tag
Got most of the rafters set over the garage
yesterday we decided that we liked the structural ridge right where it was
so I posted up under each end and secured it
cleared out some of the bracing so we could move around
and layed out the first rafter.
couldn't locate my construction master so (EGAD!) I was forced to use the tables on the framing square-
and do multiplication and division on a scrap block.
It made the evening news.
We got four set before it got dark
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maybe I meant to include a pictureNo Tag
Beam me up, Scotty!"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
"....there's no intelligent life down here."
how ya doing Huck?No Tag
Doin' good. Hey, how are the neighbors reacting to your job? Are they intrigued to see one guy putting this thing together (with an occasional helper, of course)? Do they hate you for blocking their sunlight? Love you and bring you cookies and hot chocolate? Do the kids come watch you work after school? I mean, everytime I look at those pics it seems like you're working on a public stage!
Just curious."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
It is a seasonal community so very few people are about.
There are a few folks that are regulars ( couple walk past everyday, some drive around the cul de sac and wave) but mainly I am on my own.
Probably change when spring comes.
You are probably right about stealing their sunshine- the house to the north is going have to pipe it in over our main ridge...No Tag
how did you fair the storm ice? snow? still have electric? not me, workin off a generator
Won't know until tomorrow.
Dad has been ill - had to be in the hospital for a few days- so I have been Mom's taxi this week.
working off a generator is better than not working I suppose. Necessary evil.
Logan county didn't get as much storm as we did so maybe I won't have to drag mine over there. (Probably should load it up now that I think about it.)
You get much ice at home?
No Tag
man, lookin' good!
I WAS WONDERING ABOUT PUTTINT THE BOLTS THROUGH THE RIDGE BEFORE,SORY, you had the rafter layout figured, and then I opened the next pict.
Giving me the itch!!
thanks
people who have never framed don't know how much fun they are missingNo Tag
yea trees down all over the place no power for two days running full tilt off generator at home too.not much fun
i guess the good news is we have generators
and workNo Tag
yea exactly, the gas station close to my house loses power when i do so i go down and fill up every can i have before a storm summer or winter. it's always easier to swallow when you prepare. :)
Fail to prepare. Prepare to fail.
I'm bringing sexy back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yIqwyR1ays
exactly, do you have electric I was in flemingsburg today for a funeral and most the people there had no elec at home. on our way home the ice had melted off the trees and elec lines most everywhere the sun was able to get to.
I never really lost electric. My folks have been without it since Tuesday night. They are having a good old time. They were raised without electric for the most of their childhoods so it's like old home week. They have a gas fireplace that keeps their townhouse warm enough so they're just doing without lights.
I'm bringing sexy back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yIqwyR1ays
More framing
Headered off to finish the first run of raftersNo Tag
built a knee wall to catch a run of shed roof
and cut and set the raftersNo Tag
It's so fun to watch the roofs come together.
fun to cut themNo Tag
Come on, you have to show only the ones that are exact cut. You are ruining peoples belief in framers being perfect.
peoples belief in framers being perfect.
um I think framers only feel that way about themselves. :) (me included)
got back to the job site today
set up scaffolding to start buttoning up the front and cut more rafters
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stand offs to secure the scaffoldNo Tag
nothing earth shattering
how I lay out common rafters
all the stock is crowned away from me
make a quick template and figure the length
template with plumb cut, seat and tail, and registration mark- lay it on the stock and scribe
mark for length
flip template over- line up registration marks for seat and tail
scribe
and cut
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Edited 2/4/2009 8:52 pm ET by hubcap
Nice work. Tempate makes it go faster doesn't it? What I do with a template, is use a chunck of rafter stock and then put some 1/2" ply on the top so it automatically is flush with the top of the rafter. That way I can just slide it into place.
use a chunck of rafter stock and then put some 1/2" ply on the top so it automatically is flush with the top of the rafter
That's important too because that way the H.A.P. (height above plate) remains constant regardless of variations in the framing lumber. If you line the template up with the bottom, the variation will show up at the eave line.
I don't know if its been mentioned, but with commons, it pays to rack the rafters upside down and snap lines for the seat cuts (the plumb cut) and the ridge cut. I never had one of those skilsaw dado setups, and I never had the chainsaw blade like you use, but I still found it expedient to rack them, make my two cuts, then flip them flat one at a time, make the horizontal cut at the seat, and finish the ridge cut.View Image "...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
Thanks guys,
I'll make up templates like yours when I have a lot of rafters to cut
and mark and gang saw sometimes
here there are only six so I didn't put much time into it
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Edited 2/5/2009 4:59 pm ET by hubcap
Here is that little gable with the common and fly rafters setNo Tag
here there are only six so I didn't put much time into it
Oh yeah, we were just having a sidebar. Sorry about that - back to your regular programming!View Image "...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
Huck,
I was talking to a friend the other day (we've worked together on some church projects) and he was telling me they used to have the dado setup. I'd love to get my hands on one.http://www.Pioneerbuildersonline.com
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From Lot 30 Muirkirkhttp://picasaweb.google.com/TimothyUhler
some more work type stuff
let's see
started sheeting
No Tag
some quick jigs to hold the sheets in place
horse to help get them to the second floor
and more sheetingNo Tag
it looked like this when I left
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it is a little breezy out tonight so for all I know my work is scattered all over the county by now...No Tag
I hope not. Didn't you nail off the sheets?
oh yeah-
nailed everything off, triple checked all the bracing
should be fineNo Tag
bummer
was it the wind?
or is this the work of the "sacred cow tipper"
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anyway, no other issues to report
too windy to get much done
No Tag
Edited 2/12/2009 1:04 pm ET by hubcap
progress!
hooked up the sump this morning - the big thaw has the ground water creeping up a bit
then went out into glorious sunshine sans gale force winds and finished sheeting this side
doesn't look like much probably but it does feel suspiciously like accomplishmentNo Tag
doug.... with our wind load requirements, we use 5/8 T&G for the roof
if we don't use t&g, we have to do all kinds of edge blocking...
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looks like golf on Sunday... had snow on the greens since before ChristmasMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
yeah- I read that in one of your threads - don't remember which one.
we are still okay with clips on the roof.
I am using 1/2" here.
tell you what though- seventy mile an hour gusts here twice in less than six months
makes 5/8 t and g look like cheap insuranceNo Tag
forgot- I am jealous about the golf.
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time to move the scaffolding to the garage frontlookoutsfly raftersmore sheathingon tapNo Tag
scaffolding is set up in front of garage
got a start on sheetingNo Tag
Nice job, great fun watching it come together. Any problems with theft / security issues?View Image "...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
oh boy (I'm not superstitious I'm not superstitious I'm not...okay you get the idea.)
no problems. The neighbors that are about don't seem to miss much and the site doesn't have quick egress.
my trailer sits on the leveler jacks and I take the valve stems out of the tires when it is left on site. Oh- and I take the liscense plate off.
none of the material has grown legsNo Tag
none of the material has grown legs
knock on wood...
jt8
If you aren't embarrassed by your offer, then you are offering too much! --DanT
The first pict I opened, gave me my favorite view, a roof fully sheated!
had a little help this morning so we changed gears a bit and set some 6x6 posts for the screened porch.
it has a bit of living space above along with a sun deck
I will work on it more towards the end of the weekNo Tag
oops
don't wait for 971 to open- it ain't that interesting.
just the post baseNo Tag
is Trent still on the team? (Cath asked)
anyways ... those porch 2x4's look big.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
you have a good eye my friend- those 6x6's are some of the biggest porch 2x4's around.
haven't seen the Trentster for a while but you know who he looks like?
no guess?
If Trent was black he would be a dead ringer for the head coach (why can't I remember his name) of the "world champions of the world"
Pittsburgh Steelers.
am I right or what?No Tag
uh ... OK.
sure.
Cath actually asked .. "is that other guy still helping" ...
I filled in the "Trent" part.
So ya broke him huh? His brother was fun, I liked him.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I never knew which eye to look into...
you broke Trent- he told me he was afraid of Pennsylvanians and midgets
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Edited 2/16/2009 7:09 pm ET by hubcap
the midget part ... did you mean STOCKY MIDGETS ?Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
exactlystocky is a good word for him...er...uhI mean themNo Tag
then I moved back to the front and finished putting on the foam
and lookouts
and started the fly raftersNo Tag
and by the way
that forty foot ladder is a pig...No Tag
easier to just set a step ladder up there!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
uh huh
I thought about you when I was standing up the pig
"Jeff would just set a step ladder on that pick and be done with it."
not me pally boy...No Tag
no, no, no ... not me.
heard about it from a guy ... on the street ...
never got his name.
looked like Mike Tomlin ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Time to tear down scaffold and move around the cornersheet the other side of the garageNo Tag
been following this, really cool thread, your camera is crystal clear, and great work by the operator. In the pic of the 6x6 screned porch area, #968, I think, what is that off in the distance with all the white railing and stuff? Just kinda caught my eye. Make that photo #974.
Edited 2/17/2009 5:39 pm ET by MgGuy
Edited 2/17/2009 5:40 pm ET by MgGuy
Thanks.that is one of the neighbor's boathouses - has a deck on top.No Tag
how thick is the blue board?
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
1/2" probably go to full inch next timeNo Tag
ok.... i give.... what's with the ridge on the right ?
View ImageMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
you are talking about the knee wall I guess- one more ridge yet to go uprafters come down and bear on that knee wall then continue to the shed roofmaybe a different angle will make it clear as mudNo Tag
hmmmm.... if you say so, bossMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
some more rafters and stuff3 bucks of scaffold (it will take one more to set the main ridge)so I could stretch a line and mark where the roofs intersectNo Tag
That allowed me place the cleat on the 10 pitch roof to nail jack rafters toand then a temporary support post to catch rough cut rafters coming off of each roofscribe for length and plumb cutscut the stock, cut the ridge, nail it all togethernothing to itNo Tag
took all day to do in the snow and wind That knee wall Mike asked about is a bit high.
It was set for an eight pitch roof and we had to lower that to a seven so somewhere along the line I will cut it down hope to finish the garage sheeting that got pushed back by rain and wind tomorrow No Tag
Edited 2/21/2009 10:58 pm ET by hubcap
nice truck! (nice project, too)"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
lolafter I posted that shot I looked at it and thought- "hey, nice product placement. Ford Motor Company owes me big..."No Tag
Thanks for the very interesting posts. I'm still learning by just hanging around and listening/watching. (I've only been doing this work for 42 or 43 yrs.) Well. I gotta go take a nap. Your pics have worn me out.wdb
I'm a bit tired myself. Wind blew all day so sheeting was six hours of wrestling an elephant flat.No Tag
Maybe someone already asked, but why did you rafter instead of trusses?
Complicated roof on an average sized house!
Lookin' good!
thanks for the support
went with rafters because trusses are for girls
good question- we have more volume inside and more flexibilty with interior finishes
with rafters versus trusses.
My customer is interested in leaving the rafters exposed in the great room- (have to put a price tag on that still.)No Tag
Wasnt ther just green grass a few days ago, the project is coming along great.
yeah, there was grass but it got lost.
six more years of winter...
but the other side of the garage roof is sheeted
so- that is a happy occurenceNo Tag
Don't you just love those complicated roofs. Man, I hope you have a good roofer!>G<
I think the roofer is related to the framer . Have to do something to keep me out of mischief.
Made some more progress
Finished sheeting the garage walls , put the blueboard up
subfascia nailed on
took down the scaffold in front
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studded in the upper gableit gets a 60" full round window according to planI'll cut the circle out when I sheet the wall and we will see how it looks in real lifeNo Tag
okay looking at the pics it is gonna be maybe 48" so I can trim and flash properlyNo Tag
I was going to say, how are you going to flash.
Short day?
Edited 2/24/2009 6:50 pm ET by frammer52
yep short daymy folks need some help (Dad isn't well) so I won't be framing for a couple of daysNo Tag
Dad isn't well
Hope it isn't anything serious.
jt8
lotsa worse things happen to better people than me every day. --Snort
pancreatic cancerhe is dyingit's really hardNo Tag
Sorry to hear that. My thoughts .....
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
thanks DTNo Tag
Man, that is tough. Hard way to go. Not much of a silver lining, but at least you can tell him how much you appreciate him. You can spend some time saying goodbye.
jt8
lotsa worse things happen to better people than me every day. --Snort
there is thatNo Tag
Bummer...
My dad had that. What John said... There was some things I wished I hada said....
prayers for you all.
Thanks Matt.No Tag
Did you already discuss that roof design where the valley between the 2 front gables is right above the front door (I think?)?
you mean the " pond "?no. It needs a fairly significant saddle to direct the water out.No Tag
Sounds like you got it covered....
Again - sorry to hear about your Dad.
doug... our best to you and yours ..and peaceMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
thanks amigoNo Tag
Sorry to hear about your dad. We will keep you in our prayers.
Thanks,got to get on the roadNo Tag
hey hub not tryin to bust your balls but in this pic it looks like the roof on the left should line up and plane with the garage roof then in turn raise the ridge so the roof on the right of the ridge matchs the pitch on the garage roof as well. no?
http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/at.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&guid=2FA558D7-0E0E-4CDD-81BF-8335CE2E2B55&frames=no
it looks off until you move away and to the right. looks better on paper than up close and personal but it is framed correctlyhomeowner likes it anyway...No Tag
sorry to hear about your dad. I didn't mean to insinuate you were framing it wrong only i thought my idea was a better design. :)
Thanks about Dad and no worries mate
you have not offended me yet
your design is easier on the eyes
but I am stuck with the way it is.No Tag
carry on, i'll be watching :)
back to a little work
finished out that little gable
put the fly rafters on
sheeted in
trammel for the circle cut out
framed the cricket in and sheeted
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still need to put the blueboard on but it was windy and cold so I moved around back
where there is a little shelter
attached the ledger for the porch roof and shot a level line on the outer posts
marked and notched the posts to receive the outboard beam
set the beam, plumbed the posts and lagged it all in place
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I really should have taken a picture of the cricket framing
it was too pretty
here is a view out the full roundNo Tag
cool!
NICE! consider the trammel notch idea stolen! :)
How's Dad?
Thankssteal away-Dad- won't be long.No Tag
Hub- I've been watching your progress for a while and I think you're doing a great job. I work solo too, so I understand the complexities of the job you are doing. I look forward to your updates.
Hey,
Thanks bkNo Tag
I can't believe you do everything lone. I have always worked with a crew. Most times a crew of at least 6. It is amazing what you can do with a little motivation!
I don't know six people who can stand to be around me long enough to work...Jeff Buck maybe
but he should know betterNo Tag
Right now, I bet you could find 6!
true enoughI have turned away a fewNo Tag
he mighta meant normal people.
like I said before ... that's why we work well together ... we both hate people.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
he mighta meant normal people.
You show me normal people in construction!
you do bring a valid point to the table.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I enjoy working with you?I mean yes I enjoy working with youremember we have synergy.you don't require babysitting and never make mistakesunless you are talking...No Tag
late start but some progresslaid out and installed joist hangersnotched posts for rim joist and installedgot the lion's share of the ceiling joists setcouple of hangers short and have to notch the side of one post to set a joist on layout- finish that in the morning and start putting the ceiling/roof deck downNo Tag
found this old doorstopsomebody told me out west they saw wood with themNo Tag
stole this guy from ForrestNo Tag
Great Blue? I remember driving past the marshes east of Sandusky on old route 2-6 and seeing hundreds of herons and egrets.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
blue heron- yepnever used to see them when I was a kid because of ddt.now we got owls and osprey , occasional bald eagleswans and herons and hawksNo Tag
Lemmee know when if you see a passenger pigeon would ya?
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I totally forgot we had synergy.
I wonder if me and George have synergy ...
we might have other made up words instead?
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
back to work todayfinished up the joists for the screened porchhand nailed the remaining hanger nails with hot dipped galvanized 16's - finished driving them home with a 1/2" machine bolt for a nail set so there aren't any half moons in the "finished" framing.layed out and pre-drilled the flush outer beam and then ran 3/8" x 5" acq lags into the ends of each joist- 2 perpulled the rim joist to plumb and true and snapped a control line and got a start on laying the ceiling deck
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hope to get the ceiling deck down and screwed off tomorrowsotomorrow I will be screwing off...No Tag
finally ... a job yer qualified for!
last week George had to out to the far end of the pick.
it was a little bouncy ... at his request I walked to "the far end" and stood there.
ballast!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
if we had our own home improvement show it would be"Screwing Off with Dead Weight."and GeorgeNo Tag
Hey ...
what ever happened to the TV show job?
I forgot about that.
man ... we woulda been good tv.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
We were too expensive by about 30k.
Except when I ran into the guy about a month ago he said they were significantly over budget and the quality isn't what he expected
"Huh-
I'm stunned."No Tag
did ya tell him he coulda had the same with us for only $30K more!
synergy ain't free ya know ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Again, thanks HC for the continueing pics. Really enjoying the ride.
Runnerguy
you are quite welcomeNo Tag
new and more scaffold.
did we buy or rent?
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
that quarter inch is a "design feature"
you taught me that.
we purchased
someone has to drive the economy...No Tag
I like!
Thanks amigo.No Tag
I remembered the buy vs rent discussion from Millersburg.
good to know there's nice scaffold in the family!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
seat cut
I noticed this one is off about a quarter and thought "great- show the whole world this one seat cut and it is wrong."
then I looked and every one of them on this side is off a quarter
now it is on purpose
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Edited 2/2/2009 8:17 am ET by hubcap
"then I looked and every one of them on this side is off a quarter"
Quick ... cover it with a house 'er something!
then no one will notice ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
today I cut the remaining rafter stock and we got busy setting
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Oh
somebody please remind me to stop storing my rafter stock underneath glaciers
musta taken an hour to dig out...No Tag
Looks good.
Thanx for sharing. Got a pick of the seat cut?
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
i can take one- won't be until tuesdsay.
there is about an inch and an eigth at the back to allow for the sheathing if that is what you are curious about...No Tag
Your right about the heat. It's the humidity that sucks the life out of ya. I've been to the lower 48 and all over Canada working. I say the One State that is both the hottest, and coldest is Kansas. That's one place the weather really bothered me. Anywhere else I deal with it. For some reason Kansas humbled me when it came to middle of Winter, and Summer. And the temperature swings were the worst too.
I'm bringing sexy back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yIqwyR1ays
Nice project. I always like seeing progress photos as the project is happening. Keep us posted.
BTW, the photos are pretty big which makes for difficult viewing with having to scroll and all.
To make them smaller-
-Copy the photo to a "temp" folder (you're doing this because you're going to resize it and may want to keep the original.
-Open up the photo there, right click on it and click "edit"
-Under "Image" click "stretch/skew". For the values for "stretch" throw in maybe 30% for both the horixontal and vertical values. Leave "skew" alone.
-Click "ok" and then click "yes" when asked if you want to save this.
Now your photo's a lot smaller. Like this:
Runnerguy
Edited 10/31/2008 7:06 am ET by runnerguy
Thank you for taking the time to take and post the photos of your job.I enjoy seeing how things are done in other locales. I look forward to any and all posts with photos. I LOVE THE SIZE OF YOUR PHOTOS. THEY ARE MUCH BETTER THAN THOSE THAT ARE POSTED IN SUCH SMALL SIZES THAT THEY DON'T SHOW ANY DETAIL.Thanks againChuck
You can configure the Firefox browser so all pictures are automatically resized to fit in the window. Then, if you want to check out a detail, you can zoom in.I would imagine IE can do this as well.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
I have never understood the reasoning behind smaller photos. Be it the lack of high speed internet or the love of lack of detail there is no reason for it. Most internet browsers today will, as you said, automatically resize them to fit your monitor so no scrolling is required.
Are you serious?
Some of the posters have dial up internet service, it would take all day to access the photos if too big.
Took me 3 and a half hours to download just these ten.Took less than ten minutes to resize all of them. (~Not~ ten minutes apiece.)Took two to three minutes apiece to upload them back to here. On my dialup... =0)Yes, I watched the clock.;o)It would have taken probably one minute or less, apiece, to download them, if they had been resized. And I don't see any problems with 'details'.~~~Excelent work.Thank you.I am looking forward to watching the rest of the build.=0)
Thanks for the assist. Next batch is shot in a more dial up friendly size.
I will just duplicate posts with pics - easy enough to do.No Tag
You are most welcome.=0)And thank you, once again.Great idea, to post both sizes. If you have the time and patience.=0)
Edited 11/12/2008 8:55 pm by Luka
Okay I shot these on a different camera setting .
I'll post future pics two ways and you all can pick your poison.
Footings poured and snapping lines.
here come the wall panels.
setting panels
and where is that friggin sewer tap?No Tag
So the tap isn't where it is supposed to be.
In the old days we'd tie a line to a couple of ferrets and send them down the main with a polaroid and some graph paper. Don't come back without a map boys...
Ferrets are famously unreliable and we lost a lot of cameras as a result.
Now it's done with fiberoptics.No Tag
the master plat located the tap ten feet upstream of where it was.No Tag
I just finished following this thread. Neat idea on the pvc as form boards.
If I had been assigned to your job-site I would have not been able to allow you to pour those footings for reasons below.
Incomplete ties at rebars. No vertical rebar tied to the footing rebar.
Improper materials and methods for chairs.
Debris entombed the bottom of the footing.
Footing cross section not equal in top and bottom dimensions with curved sidewalls. Crossectional area of footing not uniform. Actual bearing to undisturbed substrate is reduced as compared to the footing's top width.
No water-stop or keyway apparent....was it spec'd?
Visually the slump appears to be greater than 4.5"
And I really did not intend to "rain on your parade", but there are some better building pratices.
For all I know this might work well for you and your client. This is intended as information to allow for improvement on such future applications as pictured to produce a stronger more durable structure.
And with that I should apologize for intruding "after the fact"!
..............Iron Helix
It is a fine laundry list- thanks for the input.
no keyway was specified
chairs would have been ideal but the inspector allowed the brick
I will have to check the delivery ticket for the slump- but no water was added on site.
I have an 8" poured wall sitting in the middle of a 24"x 8" footing. That wall is 36" tall with two horizontal rows of rebar @8" and 18" above the footing tied to vertical rebar inserted into the footing @48" centers. I am not in a seismic zone.
My code requires a 6" poured wall with no vertical or horizontal reinforcing for a wall that high. My footing is required to be full depth measured 4" either side of my 8" wall. I am exceeding compliance.
I won't be losing any sleep worrying about this foundation failing
No Tag
Edited 11/1/2008 11:25 am ET by hubcap
The loss of the seismic zone does make a big difference...it has a significant impact on lots of details.
I am surprised though about the use of brick chairs as it does effect a number of factors....but if your local official has no complaint, then ther you go.
In spite of my comments, I still think it is a cool system. Probably a lot less $$$ than some of the PVC proprietery systems.
Nice set of forms...yours or rented?
I'll stay tuned to your progress.
..............Iron Helix
I am surprised by the brick for chairs as well.
Not my wall panels- belong to the concrete guy. He has a lot of nice equipment for a kid. (He looks like he is about 25.)
I've never seen his footer system before- pretty slick for this application.No Tag
Okay here is how the week finished up in big honkin pictures
looks like it is going to be a good day
wall panels are in and being braced and sprayed down with form release
full up with anchor bolts going in
we got a foundation w/ fresh waterproofing
happy homeownerNo Tag
little picsNo Tag
rained Friday so no backfill.
maybe Monday.
also going to fill and compact stone in the garage and porches- get them prepped for pouring.No Tag
How do you build your interior foundation piers? Wood, block, or concrete? We have our foundation contractor pour ours.John
J.R. Lazaro Builders, Inc.
Indianapolis, In.
I'll frame most of them.
a couple will be steel columns with a plate to fasten them to the footer and a saddle to recieve the beam
there is one relatively large column that carries the main ridge load through the floor to the footing. (34 feet)
I've got a spiral stair that winds around that puppy so it has to resist some lateral force. Should be fun to put together
No Tag
Edited 11/8/2008 8:59 pm ET by hubcap
What's your man spraying here? Release agent?
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yep.
hey, how come my calves are cramping up so bad when I'm taking my morning walks?
not enough bourbon?
they don't do it at nightNo Tag
Calves are cramping? What are you doing roping steers so early in the morning?First three suggestions...drink more water during the day, eat some bananas (potassium is good for warding off cramps), and probably most helpful, stretch.If they are tight first thing in the am, as in getting out of bed, it's probably because the rest of your legs are tight. Best thing you can do there is some hamsting stretches. (These are also good for your lower back). 9 times out of 10, stretching your hamstrings cures what ails you.But it doesn't go away with one 3 minute stretching period. You have to keep at it. Ease into it. In the morning, stand still and lean over. Stretch as far as you can and incrementally keep going down toward your toes. Don't bounce up and down, just hang. Try that for 45 seconds. Stand up and walk around, and then go back and do it again. Repeat once or twice more.Then go drink some bourbon.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Okay,
I will have to bag the bourbon because my liverologist has rules against that sort of thing. (the putz)
watered down bananas and stretching it is...
thanks
No Tag
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Banana Daiquiris?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g&feature=related
Hey, if it's not the spy who came in from the cold.How are things? Sounds like you are all bananas, no daiquiris lately. Good to see you back here.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I can't stand bananas but I have been taking potasium supplements. Had to take the week off of running and working out. Pulled a calf muscle or something down there. All better now. New rule. No Sunday runs. I always hurt myself on Sundays for some reaon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g&feature=related
man- you got vision and the rest of the world is wearing bifocals...
which reminds me- time to get my eyes checkedNo Tag
Nothing much exciting here
foundation was signed off so backfill is started
prepping to pour the flatwork
varmit screen to keep the riff raff outa the drain tileNo Tag
okay
we got flatwork
poured yesterday
control joints sawn today
and backfilled
No Tag
same pictures biggerNo Tag
Looks like your ready for the fun stuff now! hopefully the rain won't screw up your schedule to much. we are framing a pretty large two story addittion in UA i was hoping to have it all finished by thanksgiving but with the rain last week and more expected this week it's going to close.
Yeah- I enjoy framing so let the games begin.
Just me and another guy who sometimes gets confused about which end of the tape to hold- oh wait- that is me...
hey good luck with the weather and buttoning upNo Tag
How big is the house? Looks small in proportion to the garage area. And what is the small slab off the back corner for? Aiming to pour the 5500 sq. ft slab on my project on Monday here.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
It is about 2600sq ft.
over the garage is all finished.
the back slab will be a screened porch w/ sun deck over.
I keep forgetting to take the camera with me when I am out walking-
today I was going down the hill and glanced over at Swazey Chapel and the sun was breaking through the clouds behind the steeple and there were about thirty crows circling around riding the thermals- and I thought " that would be a blast from the past for Dovetail..."
then I tripped over some old lady and her dog bit me.
hope the pour goes wellNo Tag
ROAR! Hope it was a small dog! Don't see many crows here but almost daily when the sun comes out we do see turkey vultures riding the thermals and quite often red tailed hawks. One of my best bird experiences happened when I was canoeing on the Tuscaroras River back in the early 60's.
Paddling through an area with large overhanging trees and in the distance we see a flock of birds dive bombing something. As the group got closer we realized it was crows or black birds swarming a great horned owl that was flying about 4' off the river.
That darn owl never wavered, came right over us so low we could have reached up and stroked his back if we hadn't been busy ducking for cover.
Awesome experience. Finished area above garage plus the second story explains the small footprint.
Nice looking job .
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
had to happen I suppose.
lumber arrived and now I have to work.
somehow doesn't seem right...No Tag
checked the foundation for square and level and it is pretty darn good
sill sealer and mudsills going in
lvl beam going together and placed
first run of joists installed and bridged and rim joistNo Tag
little bridge on the way back to my lakeside hovelNo Tag
moving right along
pipe columns are in and beam is level
more joistsNo Tag
ready to sheet tomorrow.
maybe get some walls up before I take six months off for Thanksgiving...No Tag
That is a good plan. It is usually warmer six months after Thanksgiving. Vic
ran it by my customer- he was not so keen.
we compromised and now I get half a day next Christmas...No Tag
So what did you do with the rest of the day?>G<
Love framing picts!!!!!!!!!
wow you are good
i did in fact skate out at noon and basically schlepp around the rest of the day...No Tag
Just curious what type of insulation you will use in the crawl?John
J.R. Lazaro Builders, Inc.
Indianapolis, In.
Still up in the air John, although I am leaning away from fiberglass.
Do you have a recommendation?No Tag
I agree. I would never put fiberglass in a crawl on the walls. We spray foam all of our crawl walls. If that is not in the budget, I would recommend 2" foam on the walls. That is the reason I asked. Since you were doing the framing, it is very easy to drop the foam in the crawl before the joists go on (or at least the subfloor). Also it can be installed before the joists go on once the plate is on. Unfortunately the easiest way to insulate the band board is still batt insulation unless you have it spray foamed.John
J.R. Lazaro Builders, Inc.
Indianapolis, In.
I like the spray foam idea. I will give that a look see.
If not I was thinking of the ridgid board. My crawl access is something like 62" wide so getting material in is no problem.
Thanks for the heads up on the spray on foam- I hadn't thought of it.No Tag
Framed too many of these houses. Unfortunatly, I know a little about how long things take>G<
What's this little dealiewhopper? Something to keep the spacing consistent?
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Looks like a hanger hanger. Vic
that is a hanger buddy-
very cool gizmo- may bring about world peace...
set your depth to match your joist , press a hanger down over the body where it is held in place by a couple of magnets, align it with your layout and shoot your hanger in place= tranquility.No Tag
I'm imagining the zen that brings...cool...have to get one of those.Did I mention the work looks nice? It looks nice.Thanks for keeping the updates going. Loved the shot of the covered bridge. Granville's a lovely place, no?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Hanger Mate. Not a Hanger Buddy.
Granville is lovely.
Hey pal o mine- I will be over at Lake Anna next week so see if you can scare up some suitable golf weather...
also- no more cramps. Thanks.
and finally No Tag
"I will be over at Lake Anna next week"Lake Anna, VA? That's my neck of the woods.I'll put an order in for some good weather.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
The very same Lake Anna.
Sister-in-law lives in Bumpus and we are swooping in to devour all her food for the holiday.No Tag
Thanks for the info. I'll look around for one.Like that photo. Ducks and all. Very peaceful. As long as you're not playing your second shot from there :)Weather here next week is mid 40s and sunny from Wed on. Which sounds better than the last few days.If you've got time for lunch as you are passing through, let me know.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Lunch next time- we get in Wednesday afternoon and head out Friday morning.No Tag
I just saw this thread so I'm a little behind...
A few comments re the foundation, which I guess are mostly regional differences:
Sealed crawl space... Is that SOP there? I didn't really see any special prep to the grade in the CS - will they just install the vapor barrier right over that stone? Here, we install the rigid foam foundation wall insulation before framing. Allows them to do a better job and the inspectors require it - they don't (or at least rarely) go in crawl spaces.
Poured wall crawl space... I'm a little surprised to see that. Here, for roughly the same price or a little less I can put in a masonry (block) CS foundation with a brick veneer. Wonder why they went the concrete route? Maybe SOP there? Maybe brick isn't as readily available there or is high $$$? Here brick starts at about $230 a thousand and maybe $300/1k for install. I didn't notice any damp proofing on the outside of the foundation.... maybe I missed it? It looks like the exterior grade might be 3' higher than the interior... Here we would install an interior drain tile system... I didn't see that either... must be more regional differences?
Personally, I woulda had my flatwork done after framing... But that is just me. Maybe it was a scheduling thing based on cold weather coming in?
Hey Matt,
Let's see-
Just about every other house in this area has a vented crawl but I like the idea of making the crawl part of the building envelope. Mainly because we can control the relative humidity inside the envelope.
I will install the ridgid foam under the vapor barrier via the access- the inspector said he didn't need to see it until after mechanicals.
The poured walls versus block- the concrete guy got a price to me the second day he had the prints and he was available in my time frame. Two big plusses. ( His estimate was within 800.00 bucks of the block guy. It took the block contractor two weeks to put a bid together and he couldn't get to me until early December. Oh- and he wanted fifty percent up front. Thank you- no.
There is perimeter drain tile inside and out and we used Grayseal Waterproofing. ( Grayseal is very nearly the same color as the poured wall.)
I debated pouring the flatwork but the weather forecast was another week of unusually warm weather followed up by four months of misery and mud. (I despise framing in the gumbo.)
No Tag
Interesting... Sounds like you got all the bases covered.
Here we are required to use fire-rated rigid foam for sealed CSes. Also, what do you plan on using as your CS floor vapor barrier?
Briefly, what are your plans for insulation the rest of the structure?
Edited 11/22/2008 8:24 am ET by Matt
20 mil visqeen v.b.
Manville "SPIDER" in the walls= r-22 minimum + 1/2 foam board over exterior osb boosts me up to r-25 or so
foam all the penetrations
Manvilles formehldyhide free fiberglass bats in the sloped ceilings= r-30
r-38 blown in the flats
Anderson Silverline windows and sliders
Thermatru insulated doorsNo Tag
a bit more progress-
sheathing shots
a few walls upNo Tag
Lucky you! You get to enjoy ALL the different kinds of weather ;)
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
we haven't had any meteor showers yet
so
something to look forward to.No Tag
Lookin' good!
maybe by the end of next week most of the first floor walls will be in place.
itsa goal anywayNo Tag
I always get envious when I see one in progress like this. It's been too many years since I was able to do that......Then I remember the actual experience in the cold. LOLI'll bet that ten gallon caulk gun was fun to use in the cold.;o)Can we get pic #360 in a bigger size ?
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no problem on the pic- I will do it tomorrow when I get home.
I think it is pic 371- box the saw is sitting on is a hotbox I slapped together to keep the tubes of glue warm. It has a little heater in it- stuff comes out real easy. Especially when I am not the one running the gun...No Tag
I meant the pic with the tree and sunset, or sunrise whichever it was...(For a bigger pic.)And thank you.=0)
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here you goNo Tag
Wow, it's even better, when you can see all the texture on the tree.Thank you.=0)
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How many guys are on your crew and what is your scope of work? I mean obviously you frame, but do you do other things like siding, trim, etc, etc, or you a GC or what... Just curious.
Hi Matt,
No crew.
Residential work.
I build a few homes a year and remodel a bit.
Bigger projects I will G.C.
I frame, side , trim inside and out, lay flooring, tile setting, some design work, occasionally (when the moon is full and I am not in my right mind) pour and finish concrete, roof, hang and finish drywall, lay block, paint stain and spray lacquer...whatever else needs doneNo Tag
So, you are framing that house by yourself?
Not so much- I get grunt help about one day a week.
may get somebody when I get to setting rafters.No Tag
That is a whole lot of work for one guy - or even one guy and a helper.
true enoughNo Tag
okay-
despite my best efforts
we are still making progress
more wall framingNo Tag
I will post them smaller later tonight- gotta runNo Tag
hey hubcap you needed me and the boys there coulda had ya under roof and dried in in about week week an a half looks like then you coulda been inside with heat on pullin wire or something instead of working in the snow :)
lol-
now you tell me...No Tag
same pics/ smallerNo Tag
Nice!! I'm enjoying this.
Was gone for a while but that shot of the tree you posted last month was great. You ought to blow it up (no, no, no not the tree, the photo of the tree!!) and hang it in your den.
Runnerguy
Yeah when I saw that tree I thought- better snap a pic cuz some dummy is going to up a house and you will never see it that way again.
It does kinda look like a hand reaching up to the sky...
couple more shots
nothing special
No Tag
Coming along nicely.How was the golf here?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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didn't get out.
we pitched shoes
I am really bad at horseshoes... heck I am pretty certain I missed the ground a few times.No Tag
so we set a couple of microlamms
3 ply 1 3/4 x 24No Tag
That's pretty hefty.The biggest we can get easily is 18". Who is the manufacturer?
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
Versa- Lam by BOISENo Tag
Did you ever frame out west? You use alot of western techniques.
nope.
what are you referring to?No Tag
I guess mostly your wall jacks brought back a lot of memories from my younger days framing in AZ. and the way you do your jacks and cripples for your openings . just reminiscing:)
oh-
never used wall jacks before but I am sold on them now.
I try to pay attention to being efficient with the wood as I'm framing.No Tag
you're doin just fine! keep it up and lunch is on me if your ever in columbus.
dealNo Tag
little more done.
microlams are up and bolted
back wall upNo Tag
How far are you from Columbus?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g&feature=related
actually i live about an hour south in chillicothe but the majority of my work is in upper arlington a suburb of columbus so i'm there alot nearly every day
Gotcha. I knew you lived in Chillicothe at least I thought I knew that. Then when you started talking about Columbus I had to scramble. LOL I just did a job over in Lancaster a month or so ago. No time for socializing. I have a feeling I'll be up in that area again this winter. I might give you a shout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g&feature=related
sounds good man I'd buy you lunch as well ! :)
I like having rich friends. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g&feature=related
hey- Lancaster is dangerously close to my front door. (like 17 miles)
let me know if you head that way so I can lock up my wimmenNo Tag
isn't that house your building at indian lake or am i confused?
you are correct. last year millersburg- this year indian lake
it is my solemn duty to use up all the fossil fuels available to my little town.No Tag
I didn't realize that or I might have attempted a raid. If you know lancaster at all we took down small building in a parking lot on the main drag. It was in the parking lot of Billy Crickets. Then we poured 25 yards of concrete for footers and a new island and put a new ATM there along with a canopy and a small hut. It turned out super sharp looking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g&feature=related
drive right by it on the way to my folks place
i'll give it a gander...
anyway give me a heads up next time and we'll dig up mike No Tag
It turned out real nice. Especialy compared to the eyesore that was there, That Slaters hardware across the street was a pretty interesting place, Ever hang out there?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g&feature=related
Naw- mostly just drive thruNo Tag
As far as hardware stores go it's nothing to write home about. But if your into remote controlled airplanes, model building, stone lifting and a few other hobbies they are the hookup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g&feature=related
kewlNo Tag
Started the garage walls
will finish them this weekend and set the remaining beam and then top plate, brace and straighten and run some sheeting
move on to second floor joistsNo Tag
I probably meant to attach some pictures with that last postNo Tag
Lookin' GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
You know the smallest framing crew I ever worked on was 3 men. That being said, I love your pace.
Side note, 24" micro. that be some beefy wood!!!!!!!!!!
yea- they are beefy
whose idea was it to call them micro?No Tag
Hi Huck,
I am a GC.
pay schedule/ time crunch- no real urgency timewise. The homeowner has close to fifty percent equity in the project and a credit rating north of 800- so the lender is flexible.
I get a monthly check drawn against my builders fee.
My fee is seperate from what I charge for any labor I do so I have steady cash flow from managing the project and some fairly nice "benchmark" payments for labor as it is completed.No Tag
Not me!
more-
garage walls are framed, headers and jacks are in
beam is bolted, hangered and set
ready to sheet the walls in the morningNo Tag
Using a gun for the hangers?
yea- my bostich guns have interchangeable tips.
no more smashed bloody fingertipsNo Tag
do you carry those lvls around by youself?
too unwieldy-
I mounted handles to the edge and three of us moved them (one ply at a time) into position. We roll them across the floor on 4" pvc- pretty easy really
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Edited 12/15/2008 11:27 pm ET by hubcap
What's the purpose of the ear on the stud here? Temp support while you get your hangers on?
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That is a stop block attached to each side of the beam. (two per end) That way as I am raising that puppy into place it can only slide up between the trimmer studs. (Out would be decidedly bad.)No Tag
Thanks. Pretty smart fellow you are.Probably good at that golf thing, too.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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more stuff
garage walls are racked plumb and straight
sheeted
first set of second floor joists are in placeNo Tag
nice
Got back after it today
the deck is on over the garage
late start- some one refused to leave until it was doneNo Tag
Start joists over the south end tomorrowNo Tag
Man - that framing is so clean it seems a shame to cover it up!"...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
Nice. I always look forward to this thread.
runnerguy
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Picked up a piece and relaid it I see!
You guys either have to pick up the pace or start earlier!>G<
where's the shiners ?
View ImageMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
See if he nailed faster, he would have a few shiners and he would have been done before dark!
we always try to leave a few.... just so the carpentry gods don't get jealousMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
If you ain't shinin' you ain't moven'!
hey.... i wuz thinkin of you...
round here we grew up drinking 'Gansett.... disappeared .. now it's back
but when i went to college we drank a lot of Utica Club... think we called it "birch beer 'cause it was so bitter...... can you still get Utica Club ?
and Genesee......... and Hamms ?Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
UC certainly, I live about 10 blocks from the brewery. They had a fire this summer, all good now.
Genesee is from Rochestor. I always liked it better than my local cat pee!
Do you get Saranec there? That is a product of the Utica Brewery. I believe they still make birch beer as they give it away if you take the tour, for thise too young to drink the real stuff!
Edited 12/29/2008 4:42 pm ET by frammer52
We didn't use any nails...
Is that a problem?
hey - I am going to mooney this puppy so take that buddy.
I have been thru your job threads and it seems like I can't screw it up hardly.
One question- no vapor barrier?
okay two questions- what about venting for the cathedrals?
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even u can't screw it up.......
wait !........ is buck gonna come help ?
venting / non-venting..... you're really trying to get something going here ain't 'cha ?
me ?
depends on what my BI will let me do.... i'm currently into hot roofs... so i cram them full of dens-pak
but if your BI wants venting ... then i'd make soffit dams and run Propa-vent from the vented soffits to the vented ridge.... and then cram the bays full of dens-pak
i'd probably add a couple inches of foam board under the rafters and furr the ceiling
to try and boost the r-value
you gonna send the royalty payment to tim ?....... it's good form , ya know
hey, Phalen was explaining to me about how to put on a pair of pants...... you got it ........... "no tag"Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
oh.... and no......... no vapor barrierMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
doug..... since you were doing tilt-up... how cum you didn't sheath them on the ground ?
jealous.... i'm probably going to dig a foundtion in JanuaryMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
I did sheet the house walls while they were down. Well most of them-
I thought about tilting the garage walls but decided I was too lazy to move my saw horses.
It was too windy for me to stand up the garage walls and be confident they wouldn't go through the neighbors house.No Tag
how's the phrase go ?..... " descretion...... valor. ".... something like that
your neighbor thanks youMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
decent couple days work
yesterday by myself and today a little help
laid everything out and put up the rim joist
then stocked itNo Tag
had to cut a few to length and then I rolled and set ( while the worker bees moved a mountain of lumber into the garage to make room for the well driller.)
got all but the last row on
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worker beesNo Tag
time to go homeNo Tag
I see something that sure takes time. Why do you not overlap the floor joists. It takes a lot of time to cut each on exactly.
Forgot to cheer you on, LOOKIN" GOOD!!!!!!!!!
well-
even when I overlap I cut 'em flush with the outboard edge of the intersecting wall so the tales don't interfere with the ceiling plane below
in this case there are only (I think) seven of them that would have lapped
may as well butt 'em and stay clean
thanks for the encouragementNo Tag
wind woke me at 4 am.
steady from the northwest at twenty mph- gusts up to - i dunno- whatever
temperature currently 28 degrees f- dropping to 19 by 10 - winds increasing
don't like my chances of being hugely productive today
so
I am going to put in 4 half sheets of advantec as soon as it's daylight
batten down the hatches
and go home
taking my kids on a well deserved vacation on friday
they are both 4.0 at their respective universities.
she has one semester to go
he just started
I am awfully proud of them
Happy New Year everyone
kid pic
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Looking good. Don't become a human sail in that wind today.Enjoy the vacation with the kids. And Happy New Year to you!Best,
Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Whats in the pot?
Lou
Nice posts tooAs the twig bends- So grows the tree!!
"Whats in the pot?"
meatballs
finished the deck
it was windy out there
and cold
i saw tumbleweeds roll by wearing carharts
no lieNo Tag
About time>G<
Why bother? Stay home and have a good new years!
Hub-
You tell that son of yours......
"what you need, son, is a haircut!!!"
http://www.grosshillrentals.com
Wintertime framing requires lots of hair, face and head!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe it might have come up
six or seven
million times since he has been home.
my wife says "leave him be- he's a good boy"
I say "how do you know- I'm not even sure it is ours..."No Tag
That head of hair doesn't even qualify as being even a little long!!! When you have to trim it because it hangs into the blade of the worm drive is when you make your comment.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
He must be young, I remember the days when I had a long head of hair >G<
I wish I could find a picture of me my exwife took. I was playing basketbell with a l o n g ponytail!!!!!!!!!!!!(70's)
I know what I speak of concerning the hair in the worm drive...... Board across the foot, bend down and cut.. oops that was my hair!
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I like the bokeh in picture 632 :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh
I'm a little fuzzy on this whole bokeh thing Tim...No Tag
I liked the background. It was blurry, but you could still see it. I just liked the photo.
tim's been hangin out with photo editors..... learned a new term tonite..... bokeh
Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
me tooi like itperusing my photos from christmas eve i seem to be a bokeh savant.No Tag
yup, I'm starting to get into picture taking. I'm not very good, but I'm enjoying it
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Theler Wetlands
I liked what I saw
nice TimNo Tag
you've some really good ones in that bunchMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Back from our little break. (I don't remember who I left in charge but the gate got left open and more winter snuck in...)
had to shovel snow off the deck
and then chip off the ice
then got a few walls framed and stood upNo Tag
supposed to be more snow coming tonight
so I took a few minutes to cover up the deck where I will be working tomorrowNo Tag
"(I don't remember who I left in charge but the gate got left open and more winter snuck in...)"I bet it was that Buck kid..
William the Geezer, the sequel to Billy the Kid - Shoe
that made me laugh-
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that's just 'cause U already yelled at me for screwing it up!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
true-
hey my steelers are looking like world beaters...No Tag
E A G L E S, Eagles!!Edited 1/12/2009 11:11 pm ET by harryvermehren
Edited 1/12/2009 11:12 pm ET by harryvermehren
this is great, love this thread. You are an inspiration!
A few ques. - How did you set up your pay schedule on this? Any kind of pressure on time/crunch from the homeowner? Are you the general contractor, or just the framer? Working for a GC or H.O.?View Image bakersfieldremodel.com
Looking good. Did you have another body there when lifting those walls with the jacks?
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
for one of them.
i have just been taking them up slow- not letting either end get too much aheadNo Tag
looks like the hand of man reaching up to the sky.very coolthomas
That's Dug repellent.
Nice nice nice.Thank you.=0)
I recognize those forms. Here are some being used on a bit bigger project.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
i was hoping you'd catch some favorable weatherNo Tag
Got the first ICF lift poured last week.
Plumbers working on trench drains ( A major PITA) . Looks like next Sat. , Sunday or Monday are the only days for the slab pour. I won't be ready until probably Wednesday so timing (if it weather co-operates ) isn't going to be too bad.
I have some pics of the ICF stripped and looking like a giant white box,I will post them tomorrow or later tonite. Those one I posted to you were a job from 7 years ago. First winery I did. Overstretched the forms a bit. They just aren't made for that height. Slick system though for residential work. BTW What was the body of water in your first pic? Looks awfully big to be located down where you live in Licking co..
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Indian Lake, Logan county. about 64k acres. Original lake was 640 acres- expanded by men and mules to be a feeder for the Miami- Erie canal.No Tag
I almost forgot-
what do you get when you step on a grape?
a little wine.
you can use that...No Tag
Use it ?He probably invented it.
If I right click and hit open in new window they came out good sized even before you worked magic on them. Just left clicking they were too big to view.
Clean burning natural gas is the energy independence future of America.
At what point does the internet pass up on dial up users?Broadband has been readily available for, what, like 10 years? I think of broadband like I think of rabbit ears for TV reception. I would not be surprised if the percentage of BT users who are on dial up is less than 10%, but I could be wrong.I know some will probably feel that I'm being selfish by my comments, but a thread like this is about posting pictures so we can see the details. I can watch HGTV to get basic shots of job sites that don't really show me anything- I want to see the shots that are relevant enough to make a guy like Hubcap take the time to capture and post them.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
I didn't say I have dial up, almost as bad slow mo DSL! I don't care, I let the big ones come up. There are some areas of the country without anything but dial up. Someday sattilite will come down in price and up in quality but....
Jon,If I could have broadband, I'd give my left noogie.I am on the north side of a very tall ridge. Further complicated by very tall trees on top of that ridge.Satelite is completely out of the question.There is no cable. There is no DSL. They have no plans for either, for at least ten to fifteen years. And THAT, only if the population keeps growing out our way.I had cell-based broadband for a few months. Until they stopped renting space on the one 'antenna' that would bounce a signal to the area that I live in. Now I can't get the signal.That one was not even as fast as DSL when I was able to get it, but it was so much faster than dialup that I thought I was in heaven.Bottom line, I would pay whatever price I had to, to get broadband. But it simply is not available, and will not be available for at least ten years.So... I, and others like me, should just be dumped to the wayside ?
Edited 11/12/2008 8:54 pm by Luka
Like I said, I understand that some cannot get broadband and that some will not be appreciative of my comments?Still, do we set the speed limits on the interstate at 45 mph because some vehicles cannot travel at 65 safely?How many users here do not have broadband? I don't know the answer. I would, however, expect that the collective response of the posters here on this forum would be different if the answer was 2.5% vs. 25%.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
Jon: Thanks for the heads up regarding the Firefox resizing to fit screen feature. My normal browser is IE and have found that feature there yet. But it's probably just me.
The detail concern certainly has merit but I just like to look at the whole photo. Kinda like looking at "The Last Supper" from 4' away with the size of some of these things. And many don't have details of interest, like the last four photos hubcap posted.
I do have broadband. Changed over about 2 years ago. Last July had to have dialup for a few weeks when we moved into our new house before they could hook up the high speed stuff. Boy, did I get spoiled. I finally went to the library for everything but basic email sending and receiving.
Runnerguy
FWIW, I have high-speed but don't bother with big pictures just because I'm too lazy to scroll across the screen to try to figure out what I'm looking at.
If a detail interests me on a small picture, maybe I'll ask for more detail. Standard forum and blogging practice is to use picture that fit on the screen, and there are enough dial-uppers (you and Piffin of note on this forum) that it seems logical to keep the pictures small so everyone has access.
luka -
THis is off topic for the thread, but you really ought to look into satellite access. I am in a similar situation to you - no cable, no DSL, so I tried point to point wireless (too many trees to work). Now I use Wildblue with their 512k access plan. I get asymmetrical throughput (about 500k effective down, and 100k up), but it's WAY better than my dialup was. And it has actually been quite reliable...I've been happy with it for the price. You can't do VoIP or real time gaming due to the latency (sometimes more than 1 second), but that doesn't matter to me.
BTW, I pay $50/month.
Jamie
I live at the bottom of, the north side of a tall ridge. That ridge is covered in tall trees.I can't get satellite.I'd give my left noogie for broadband. Believe me, if there were any way possible, I would have it.I actually had cell-based broadband for a while.Then they changed the signal to make it more difficult for people to abuse the bandwidth, and suddenly I couldn't get any signal at all.They did let me out of the rest of the contract, because it was their fault, and they admitted that as well.But I would rather have had the broadband. LOL
Too bad...I thought you were just against it in general.
I also tried cell based broadband - I work in telecommunications, so I finagled a Sprint EVDO card for a test. I plugged into my laptop and tested it on the way home, stopping every few miles...about 1 mile from my house the signal was lost. :)
Therefore, I am now on Satellite. It's not the best, but it's better than the 24 kbps dialup i got - I also live in an area where they put two phone numbers on each wire, so they divide the bandwidth in two, resulting in my blazing 24 Kbps.
Take Care,
Jamie
Luka, I agree with you. It's not always the person who's on dial-up preference. I lived just outside of dsl range for years. When I moved here, the first question I asked was "dsl available" and the second was about cell service.
I was going to say I'd give my left noogie, to get broadband.But heck, truth is, I'd give DUGGIE'S left noogie to get broadband !!
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perhaps we should discuss this...
i think either of my noogies is worth more than a broadband connection...No Tag
Dangit !
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Very nice picture progression. Love to see clean framing. Really appreciate your posting, since it saves me from having to sneak over every day after you leave to see what ya got done that day!View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product†– Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I've heard that you can put up your own repeater. It grabs the signal (where it can get it) and sends it to your antenna.
We used to live out in boondocks and some did just that. Also, you can defer the cost if you neighbors want some of it.
I'm not sure of the technology or if it would work for you.
I should have been screwing off yesterday but Mom called and wanted me to make a small chest to put Dad's ashes in.
made it with some cherry he'd been saving. It's from a tree that grew on the family farm in Kentucky. We cut it down when I was in high school so it has been air drying for almost thirty years.
still need to run the top thru the panel sander and put a finish on the whole thing
anyway here it is sans lidNo Tag
looks like a planter to me
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Edited 3/11/2009 9:29 am ET by hubcap
no pun intended ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
"no pun" is my middle nameNo Tag
tomorrow is a big daybecause I will be finished with this ceiling #### for a bit.snap lines for each row use a pipe clamp and block to push each board into alignmentscrew offrepeatNo Tag
makes for a nice rustic looking ceiling
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so far what's the preference ...
doing it that way from above, or doing the t&g working up from below?
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
this is working downhill so I have gravity on my side- maybe a little easier.( My knees would disagree.)no one to share synergy with though...both look greatNo Tag
I am curios why you used sq. edge stock instead of 2 x 6 T&G.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
my homeowner wanted the look of an "old barn loft." I think this comes pretty close.
ran a hundred screws short so the last three rows are tacked in place until tomorrow
couple of picturesNo Tag
Yeah, most of the old barn lofts I can remember were just butted, not T&G. You get a little bit of dust/misc whenever someone was walking in the loft above you.
jt8
lotsa worse things happen to better people than me every day. --Snort
Edited 3/12/2009 5:00 pm by JohnT8
That barn loft dust comment triggered a flashback of long ago, I can see the sunlight slanting through the cracks and the dust drifting around an updraft and hear the peep-peep of young barn swallows clinging to the mud-built nest. damn.
that painted a picture...
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back to work a bitfinished screwing off the ceiling boardscleaned out the bracing around the porchgot a start on the closet walls above the porchNo Tag
gable wall, c.j.s and a couple rafters tomorrow maybe get to some sheetingkiller sunset tonightNo Tag
you gonna do any fishing on lunch break ? that lake looks awful inviting!
might fish at the end of the daydon't really stop for lunch- just graze on stuff all day while I workend rafters setceiling joists setthing is starting to get tallNo Tag
one moreNo Tag
so tomorrow I'll work on the gable wallsNo Tag
Is that hemlock fir you're framing with? Looks whiter than the douglas fir we usually see out here."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn
bakersfieldremodel.com
yeah some of it is hemlockdefinitely those last five rafters areframed in the end wall and gable over the porchand sheetedNo Tag
run some blueboard tomorrowthen start topping out that big ole back wallNo Tag
Blueboarded.
have to shift gears and go to Mom's for a few daysNo Tag
back to framingstarted on the back walltore down, moved scaffolding and set up againran some quick bracing so the wall doesn't hinge so muchbraced it reasonably plumb and started filling inNo Tag
finish the wall framing tomorrow and then start sheeting it.then on to the ridge beamgot the well punched in yesterdayeighty five feet- 30 gallons / minute. Haven't seen the well log yet so don't know about the drawdown or duration of pumping. I will check- maybe it is on line already.well drilling is boring no pics of the rigNo Tag
well logstatic level one foot, one hour pumping no draw down, thirty gallons per minutewater water everywhereNo Tag
yea the first well i had drilled i couldn't wait to watch, man what a let down!
the second one the owner wanted hammered that was way noisey and hard on the equipment something broke everyday so the process lasted about two weeks.
looks like your about to wrap up framing . lookin good.
thanks Mikeonly ever hammered one well- like you not my choice.Homeowners buddy. Took three weeks to pound a dry hole in the ground.cost 4 grand 'cause well drillers can't work for three weeks for free.then another two weeks and seven thousand more dollars later we had waterNo Tag
How far is the well from the foundation? It looks close to my eye.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
It is about fifteen feet.has to be ten feet from foundations and property linesten feet from sewer and sealed drain linestwenty five feet from roadwaystwenty five feet from lakes,ponds, streamsfive feet from private drives- these are all minimum distancesleft about a three foot radius on the front of the lot No Tag
Sounds like fun.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
happy to have it doneNo Tag
most of the rear wall is framedstill needs blocking, double top plate, top of one trapezoid window nailed inNo Tag
tomorrow I'll brace everything off and finish the little bit of framingthen start sheetingNo Tag
more picturesthis wall is stupid tall- I am pretty well used up from another day on the monkey bars.added jack studs and braces and stiff backs and top platesused a pls3 to establish plumb top to bottomand started sheetingNo Tag
That back wall goes on forever.
Now don't you wish you had some help?
Not much more, lookin' good!
Hey hubcap,
Nice looking project. Sorry to hear about your Dad.
A couple questions for you...I want to use 1" dow XPS on my house. I'm wondering how you plan to seal around ROs and other penetrations though. I've heard about using specialty tapes to flash around openings, but of course, you could also put housewrap overtop to make a drainage plane. Although I think installing housewrap must be a pain...we live in a windy area. What are your plans?
Also, are you going to put any angle bracing on the deck? Or does the section of house it intersects do the job well enough? I have a big deck planned, and wasn't smart enough to incorporate it into the house in anyway, so I'm probably going to have to do a bunch of angle sticks between post/beam.
-Carleton
Hi Carleton,Thanks for the compliment and condolences.I plan to tape the seems of the xps with tyvek tape or similar (no plan for housewrap) and detail the rough openings with site built drainage pans and peel and stick window and door flashing. I'll post pictures of that whole operation when we get to it.Other penetrations will be gun foamed and then sealed with poly-elastomeric caulking. (I think that is what I meant to say- OSI Quad comes to mind.)Angled braces? I am guessing you mean knee braces from the 6x6's to the support beam above.
They aren't necessary with this deck. My posts are all spaced 48" or less apart and are mechanically anchored to the slab below and the beam or rim joist above. (If they were say 8' o.c. I would brace them.) As you surmised the surrounding structure won't let the deck wrack.
The abutting walls are all sheeted with 1/2 osb and nailed off more or less per shear wall scheduling. Still have to block the seams in places.If this deck /porch area wasn't captured on two sides or if it projected a few more feet out I would put knee braces in. Cheap insurance...You mentioned wind,seems like everywhere is windy and getting worse. I don't even bother putting on seventy mile an hour shingles anymore.
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Edited 3/28/2009 3:34 pm ET by hubcap
Hey hubcap,
Thanks for the lengthy reply! Sounds like you've thought everything though. I imagine you've been doing this longer than I have! ;)
As for XPS on the outside...I really want to put 1" shiplapped XPS on my house, tape the seams, peel-and-stick around ROs, and then hardiplank, maxiplank, or some other type of fiber cement...or vinyl, if I run out of money. :)
I just worry about the adhesive on the peel-and-stick holding up for the next 80 years, or however long the siding will last...which is probably at least that long. It would suck to have to take off the siding to redo the peel-and-stick.
In Alberta where I live, I understand we have to have poly VB just underneath the drywall. At least, every modern house is built like this. I keep hearing how bad it is to have materials with low perms on either side of the wall assembly though, as you could trap moisture. I probably shouldn't worry, because there is one large energy-efficient builder here who does the same thing. Do you worry about this at all? There's probably some rational explanation that has just escaped me. I heard it explained once that so long as the dew point is kept outside the wall assembly, all is well...but I don't know if 1" XPS will do that when it's -40 outside.
Take care!
-Carleton
in the days before vycor, when we weren't chasing down woolly mammoths for dinner, we detailed the rough openings with 30# felt folded over and lapped so the moisture ran out and away. Start at the bottom and work your way up. The stickem just makes it easier now.The vb under the drywall is supposed to stop moisture from migrating from inside the house into the wall and condensing there. I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
I put Lifebreath systems in all my houses to help maintain a constant humidity level.I gotta get this sink fixed now or my wife is going to skin me... she will have to find me first.No Tag
Hi hubcap. Thanks for taking the time to reply. It's good to hear about these details from someone who's done this before. I'd prefer not to wing it myself, and then find out after that I did something wrong! ;)
I appreciate it. Look forward to more of your posts.
-Carleton
I think the theory with rigid insulation on the outside of walls-
is... it raises the inside stud bay cavity temperature so that water vapour
does not condense inside the wall...
a 2x4 with rigid actually has a higher temp in the stud bay than a 2x6 with
rigid...
less space to keep warm I guess...
regards
I have returned from the land of seminars.After being stuck inside for five days, twelve hours a day, I was very happy to get back outdoors (except for the rain, wind, sleet, and falling temperatures it was perfect.)Started on the last ridge beam (had two helpers.)got staging in place to work on itstarted bolting it togetherput up a walkway to set the main rafters later in the weekNo Tag
beam all boltedused chain hoists for the balance of the liftingand finished with the wall jackscleats to hold it in place until I post up underneath each endNo Tag
took a look at the site for the next project yesterday3200' lane to be put in to get accesshouse will sit back just inside the wind "shadow" of the far tree linehope to start late summerNo Tag
I love the redneck engineering for the beam lift!
Just what I would have probably done. Nice new site as well. Be looking forward to that thread, I have enjoyed your posts here, I am amazed at what one guy gets done.
You must be younger than me!
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
"You must be younger than me!"
he mighta been when he started the thread!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
The redneck engineering...
seemed like a good reason to get another chain hoist.
when I was a kid my granddad had a supply store for the natural gas fields in south eastern Kentucky- had a huge pipe yard with chain hoists on overhead rails and we used to "fly" around by our belt loops.
I tried it yesterday -without someone to come out and yell at me for doing it wasn't the same.
You going to slip up to Blodget's in August?
I have to laugh about the age thing.
I got a haircut yesterday and the gal that did it asked me if I wanted my "seniors" discount.
I spit my false teeth out on the floor and clubbed her with my walker... I must look two days older than dead...
"I'm forty five."
"oh- like oops..."No Tag
is the new job as far from home?
it is about thirty miles from my doorstep
Picaway county.
wish I knew a good framer or two down that way (hint hint)No Tag
anytime you need a framer or just a couple days help let me know i'd be glad to. I also have a bobcat skidsteer i had a bobcat excavator but i sold it so i'm currently looking for another one. just say the word and i'm there. always lookin for a new basket to lay a few eggs. :)
if you want e-mail your postal address and I'll send you a printNo Tag
few more pics of the actionhelp again todaytore down and moved scaffoldset the pick up to good working heightposted under each end of the ridgeset temporary t-posts to keep the mid-span in place and lasered everything plumbmoved the rafter stock up on top of the first floor cross beamsNo Tag
The rain stoppedthe wind stoppedthe sun came outso we wrestled the hem fir beasts into placeand set themNo Tag
you've got to be glad to be getting close to finishing ! :) lookin good.
man-you got that right.won't be long nowmaybeNo Tag
looks great !!
Be fun to see it all roofed in.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
thanksyeah roofed in will be greatNo Tag
Here I am back
made a good bit of progress
finished up the rafters
and started sheetingNo Tag
used a clamp and a pulley system to stock the osb
definitely beat pushing it up a ladder- still wore me out pretty good
north side all sheeted
moved over to the 4 pitch on the south side- it was like a day at the beach No Tag
Hey Doug give me a call when you get a chance so we can talk about the plans you sent.
thanks mike
k oI will call in the morningNo Tag
U got a pic of the clamps?
I might need to get a bunch of sheets of 4x9 hardi up the side of a house.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
was even thinking ... cuitting them's the easy part ... defying gravity the hard.
and since I'll be cutting 10ft pieces to about 9ft ...
might drill two hole about 6" down from the top in each piece ...
drag it up ... and cut to size up there.
But a solid clamp would be gooder.
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
they are just c-clamps.don't think that would work for hardie it is too brittle.you need a cradle and a slingor a small scissor lift maybeor two guys and pump jacksseven virgins and a mule?
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Edited 4/28/2009 8:52 pm ET by hubcap
the mule will be easier to find I bet.
anyhoo ... will probably rig up a cradle ... really wanted to build one for the hardi siding job but George wouldn't let me waste our time.
Glad that killjoy is gone!
last time I was at the big used tool super store ... they had a couple old pully's ... I was really trying to find a reason I needed to buy at least one. They were way cool looking ... also had some big block and tackle ... hmmmm ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
managed to get the roof sheeting finished
got rid of the too tall knee wall
and started drying in the roof
working from the top down
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top downNo Tag
so I'll spend the next few days buttoning up the exterior and putting on the remaining fly raftersNo Tag
how sliperry/slick is that titanium???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
I don't like walking on it when it is wet
and think plastic sled with snow on it
dry it is good stuff
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that could leave a mark....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
You may have already mentioned this, but why the ply/OSB mixture on the roof sheathing?
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
had some 1/2 in ply leftover
just using it upNo Tag
looks like yer almost ready for tile!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Nice!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks.finished up the south side todayNo Tag
laid in weathershield on the cricketstarted in the valleys and then filled in the fieldslipped the lower eve iceguard up under the end of the valleyand finished off the titaniumNo Tag
picture 2397 ...
I found those two nails you been looking for.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
thank goodness for that- them things don't grow on trees...No Tag
Still putting buttons onworking front to south side to backframing in filling inNo Tag
moreNo Tag
maybe this will come outnew dust collection systemNo Tag
Beautiful weather to be working outside! Looks good!
the sun was so bright today I got scared and sat in the shadewith a fishing polemaybe I liedgot the bid thanks amigoNo Tag
my privilege
the stupid tall back wall is studded, sheeted, and fly rafteredwe are getting dangerously close to a topping out ceremonyNo Tag
How many times did you drop your hammer?
Congrats
A La Carte Government funding... the real democracy.
lol I don't drop too many things.I am adept at a little game I like to call "what was that measurement again?"This usually is followed by the "How many curse words can I use in a sentence?" challenge.No Tag
Nice HC. Looks like it's coming along great. I especially like your "green" dust collection system!
Runnerguy
"I don't drop too many things."
table saw come to mind .... ?
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
that cast iron pig climbed over the side of my truck of its own volitionI deny any complicityNo Tag
Is the facia you are doing special or do you always use that?
Looks good.
I think you will have your house framed before I finish my kitchen in my own house!
I have stacked fascia before but not the subfascia.I think the inch and a half offset will make a bolder shadow line my homeowner is color blind so sharp lines and contrast are importantmy kitchen still isn't finished and I started it ...hmmma really long time agoNo Tag
"my kitchen still isn't finished and I started it ...hmmm
a really long time ago"
yeah ... but now U have the mother of all built in excuses ...
"honey ... I'd love to finish the house ...
but last time I tried ... it nearly gave me cancer!"
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
hey that's better than what I saidI told her the floor gave me kidney stonesShe said "this too shall pass."she is heartless I tell yayou know I used to be seven feet tall...woman is wearing me downNo Tag
I heard you were once a Greek God!
you know I'll never let that one go, don't ya ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
btw ... anytime I remind Cath how cruel or heartless she's become ...
she tells me that's what years of living with me will do to nice people.
I really can't argue that logic. I usually end up just complimenting her on the ruthlessness displayed ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
think the inch and a half offset will make a bolder shadow line >>.
It will do that!
more pictures maybethe back is doneall the flys are finishedready to shinglesome punch out picspost under beam, rake walls, lath catchersNo Tag
two 17' steel posts to put under the ridge later this weekand started the chimney chase in the main roomforgot I haven't downloaded the file from the camera yetpostsNo Tag
chimney chase/ free standing wood stoveI am thinking I will leave the center open and expose the stackskin the sides with ply to act as a stiffback for the back wall- then drywall and hang stone on the wall then something artsy fartsy to finish offNo Tag
I can't remember the name of the studes I am thinking of, but behind the chimney chase they make a pressed wood stud that would go from top to bottom, eliminates the possible woble in the wall.
Good job!
Thanks.I think I know what you mean- like a paralamm?I thought about using something like that but we decided on an interior chase.No Tag
Hey Doug, lookin good ! Do you have a homeowner there or is this spec house? Did I understand you right your are going to leave the flue pipe exposed? lookin for pics of that as well. also if you don't have a fireplace yet I sell and install all types of fireplaces and woodstoves out of my showroom. I'm sure Ican make you a good deal.
:)
Mike
Excellent!You are just the guy I am looking for then. We can brainstorm something fabulous and turn the place into your Indian Lake satellite store.No Tag
I forgot- it is for a homeowner.No Tag
it is for a homeowner.
Thats better yet I always enjoy experimenting with someone elses money more so
than mine :) I also sell many varieties of faux stone.
okay sounds good MikeNo Tag
steel posts are set
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and the remodeling has started...added a windowNo Tag
setup a scaffold tower and cobbled together a shingle elevatorworks swellNo Tag
do you have some help for this or do you load and then climb and unload, or ride up with the shingles? :) your a genius i tell ya!
doug e hubcap... super genius.I like the way that sounds.I have to run up and down a loteasier when I am not loadedNo Tag
slogging along
Mom had a knee replaced and I have been taking my turns helping her out - progress is taking a hit.
second floor punchout is done and I got a start on laying shingles
windows were delivered yesterday and today was going to be big
except out of 16 windows only one fit in the r.o.
hold the phone Elmore- what gives?!
three seperate times I confirmed with my salesman these are the rough openings...
hey dan- i'm framed to these openings you gave me...
just to be certain before you place the order- these are the openings correct? the ones on the print and we agree- cause that is how i framed them.
dan i am sending you an e-mail with the openings as framed so you can be certain the windows are correct
dan- have i ever kicked you square in the crotch?
well- don't be surprised...
one
out of sixteen
ain't much of a batting average
put the one in and fixed the easy fixes and installed
all day and into extra innings to install six windows
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some pics
some shingles
some windowsNo Tag
Mr. No Tag,Can you explain how you've flashed your window pan? Also be curious to see some more shots of the porthole window.Nice work on the shingle dumbwaiter. You have a winch at the top to draw it up? Or do you let the neighborhood kids hand on the other end of the rope as a counterbalance? :)Hope your mom is doing well.Best,
Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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good work, dougy.... what's the siding going to be ?Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
thanks mike,
azek trim
vinyl siding
wash and wear all the way
probably use plastic plants for landscape
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Edited 6/29/2009 5:39 pm ET by hubcap
Hi Steve,
rumor has it I will be in your neck of the woods next month for three or four days so lock up your valuables...
window pan is window flex wrap . which is uncured peel and stick rubber flashing six inches wide- fifty foot roll.
uncured rubber stretches so you can press it into ,around ,and over corners and not worry about how to fold it or cut it so it laps just right.
cut a piece 20 or 24 inches or so longer than your rough sill. on a long window I will scribe a reference line on the sill to run the flashing to 3 inches in from the face of the sheathing. (helps me keep puckers out) short windows I don't bother with a line.
mark a jack stud ten or twelve inches up from the rough sill and start taping- fold the flex wrap down and press it to smooth out. roll it if you have a seam roller.
set the window- make certain the sill of the window is dead on level and nail it in then plumb one side and tack it in place. check to see that corner to corner measurement matches and when it does nail the whole thing off.
then apply flashing tape to the sides- three inches past the bottom of the frame and two inches above the top.
flashing tape across the head overlapping the side flashing an inch or so on both sides
voila
tell me what you want to see on the round window and I will shoot some pics
winch is at the bottom- 12 volt 6000 pound rolling load limit (whatever that means)- pulley at the top.
the hard work going on seems to frighten the neighborhood kids.
their boats don't hardly slow down when they go by...No Tag
Thanks Doug,You coming out to Lake Anna to swat the white sphere around again? Let me know if you have time for a frosty beverage or lunch.Round window. I've got one that probably needs to be replaced (some unknown somebody swapped out the glass with lexan or something similar, some time ago), so I was curious about the install process. Whatever you've got is more info than I have now.Best,
Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I am indeed headed to the lake. I will let you know when when I know when. Whew...
pictures to come but I will take a whack at words for now
the rough opening is most likely a square- header, sill, trimmers or jack studs brought in close to the window frame, and then diagonal trimmers out of each corner- so an octagon.
the hole in the sub siding should mirror the window frame only slightly larger and the window is nailed either thru the brick mold or nailing fins.
if you are just replacing the glass and it is an older window- reverse that- if it is an older window and you just want to replace the glass the stuff in it now is probably being held in with glazing points. you can cut out the old putty pull the points and remove the ugly
then you can set new glass and reglaze without digging in to the framing and trim work
forgot- Mom is getting along okay. Thanks for the well wishes.
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Edited 6/29/2009 8:37 pm ET by hubcap
Well, believe it or not, my RO on that window is round. Not a trace of an octagon in sight. Brick on the front side, block on the back and what amounts to a wooden sonotube pushed in there and trimmed to fit.Which truthfully ought to make it easy to put a new unit in place, unless it's an odd size. I've got a glass place near by, so I can always go that route, too. Glazing points would be wayyyyy too upscale for whomever used to live here. I expect that it's held in there by a thin bead of caulk.Keep me posted on your trip. Be fun to see you if you have time.Thanks for the info. Look forward to some more photos there.Best,
Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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We are firming up travel plans now so I will let you knowOkay
more windows are set in their re-framed openings and all is happiness and bliss because the window supplier gave me a thirteen hundred and fifty dollar credit for my troubles...blue board is done and started taping seamsslider is installedno plumbing or heating dogs on site yetNo Tag
toadthe wet sprocketNo Tag
next time move the caps out a bit...No Tag
have to wait on the trapezoids- they are backwardsand a window up front is ten inches too short so I am adding a transom which also means waitDad always said "wait's what broke the wagon down..."No Tag
Thanks for keeping this thread going. I'm just lurking and learning!View Image
that's one handsome toadMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Didja fall off the roof?
Lookin good Doug. Hows it goin otherwise? Heard anything on the house in picaway county? You'll be needin a fireplace soon huh?
Things are good.too busy- but no whining!supposed to meet with the prospects Thursday or Friday.how goes it with you?No Tag
doin well thanks. on vaca this week thought you must've passed on there for awhile :) glad to see you makin progress. hopefully bein busy on means one thing. MO MONEY.
yeah- more moneydarn stuff is starting to pile up...finally making decent headway on the roofshould finish the south half tomorrow.No Tag
the Azek looks nice but wrestling it into place is less fun than I thoughtNo Tag
plumbers continue their wicked waysNo Tag
Plumbers don't have to make themselves homely... they're doing a nice looking job, though LOLSo, how come copper? What are those valves fer? Are you paying extra for those DWV hangers? And, what kind of pocket door deal is that? Looks pretty sturdy, and in a 2x4 wall, right?And what's that glimpse of water? Looks fishey to me.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
And what's that glimpse of water? Looks fishey to me.
Probably flux/solder puddles, but you knew that.The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
Ha, I was talking about one in a view from the roof... think they've got open septics up there?http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Sorry, didn't know what post you were coming from. Open septics? What'd the sheetrocker leave the lid off the bucket after making a deposit???
NEVER take off a lid that you didn't put on.
Don't ask me how I know this!The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.
Morning Snort,let's see- copper supply lines don't support the growth of bacteria and we are on a well and I don't like pex.the valves isolate the first and second floor supplies and bypass the water conditioning (totally guessing on that, I will have to look at them today.)hangers- we love hangers.the pocket door is a Johnson "Snap in " frame. They are presized for the rough openings. Takes longer to pull the frame out of the cardboard than it does to install. 2x4 wall yes.the water?per state guidelines you are only supposed to eat two of any fish caught in the lake in a given week because of the potential for ingesting harmful levels of toxins so perceiving it as an open sewer is somewhat appropriate. No Tag
Thanks for the info. You're doing a very nice job... carry on<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
South side of the roof is nearly lickedNo Tag
thanks for the kind wordsNo Tag
the plumbers are nearly finished carving up my workand it is evident they have never heard of joist hangers or firestop blocking hmm- my Dad taught these characters how to sweat copper when they were knee high- he would raise hell about those un-wiped joints.No Tag
Edited 8/5/2009 7:41 am ET by hubcap
it is evident they have never heard of joist hangers or firestop blocking
that's the plumbers' job? I thought that was the framers' job.
Otherwise, Looking good!View Image bakersfieldremodel.com
well sure that framing stuff could be construed as the carpenters job...but- hmm- uhhow about them Dodgers eh? That Tommy Lasorda is one heck of a character huh?
yeah okay
south side of the roof is doneNo Tag
and the rest of the windows finally came in and they are all correctNo Tag
started electricalNo Tag
man, that looks nice! You've earned that vacation!View Image bakersfieldremodel.com
Thanks.Looking forward to it.moved around and started roofing on the other sideNo Tag
no one will ever accuse me of being a fast rooferbut I made progressNo Tag
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?"No Tag
sorry you all had to see that...service disconnect slash meter baseNo Tag
curious about the finish nailer when doing roofing?
edit to guess: nailing on trim blocks for drip edge?
Edited 8/12/2009 10:44 pm ET by mikeroop
more nails for less money...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
oooh, you do have a mean streak!
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Edited 8/13/2009 12:49 am by Huck
just cleand up a carport that was framed in...
SGD, main door, DW, framing, trim, cabs, and two sets of steps all put in or up with a trim nailer...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Git'r Done Construction Co. - "One call does it all, one gun gits er done!"View Image bakersfieldremodel.com
easy tear down...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
trim nailer-yeah I figured the spacer blocks would pop off easier with a couple of trim nails in them than two inch roofing nails.Garage is done.Eleven squares to go...No Tag
Rough plumbing is doneElectrical is coming along nicelyI need to raise the header on that garage front window - some idiot mentioned that a transom would look good above that window. (I hate when i do that.)AnywaySome control valves and a couple of switch box roughsNo Tag
moved my roofing platform to the last sectionand got startedNo Tag
Is that just a 10" stagger back and forth, because its easier solo like that? I cant really think of any problems, I've always done it basically like the package would say because of warranty issues.
I know the warranty is BS and they will find a little something anyway they can and void it, but I did have one roof that had a problem in the first few months ( a color issue developed) They came and looked it over with a fine tooth comb, then looked at the color and paid for the redo.
the way he's doing it has been listed on three tab packages I know
I don't know that I have ever read a shingle wrapper.It is a six inch offset. never have had a leak or color problems in twenty some odd yearsprobably overdueI think as long as you order enough material and it comes from the same lot laying shingles is pretty idiot proof.flashing requires some care to do it correctlyNo Tag
well the shingling is mostly done now and the plumbing rough is tooand the electric roughprobably do some heating and cooling nextand we got the header raised and the windows in started a project at Moms'and folks got acquainted and people got married on my deck- hardly any fights broke outmy little girl grew up, graduated and moved to Franceson is back at schoolseems like summer came and went and wore me a little thintime for vacation kidsNo Tag
raised floor and insulated in mechanicals closetNo Tag
piers bored for shelter at mom'sNo Tag
My goodness it has been a while since an updatewhat have I done lately?Electric panel is tied in and rough and permanent service are signed off
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ceilings are dropped to accommodate plumbing and wiresalso yet to be installed hvac lines still a boatload of firestop blocking to do
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Edited 9/28/2009 9:55 pm ET by hubcap
shower pans are in and pouredNo Tag
entrance from garage is framed including trap access to crawlNo Tag
and the crawl wall insulation is stocked and startedalso the vapor barrierNo Tag
NO FAIR!! you cheated and had help in the crawl. :)
just kiddin ya ,but i must say you love to fire block!
something we do whenever possible is sheet the wall above the soffit line down to the bottom of the soffit first then build our soffit and BINGO your done NO BLOCKS.
try it you'll never cut blocks again
it looks like you could still do that alot of places
yeaI have only reminded myself about a thousand times "shoulda sheated behind those drops douglas...would have been waaaaay easier."No Tag
A trap door inside the entrance,leave it open for unwanted guests and bill collectors,also in pic,4666 your drain is backing up from stool or septic, just kidding you do great work.
thanks for the compliment.got the rough plumbing signed off yesterdaywaiting for the hvac equipment to come in-maybe todaymore likely tomorrowNo Tag
ducksin a rowNo Tag
NICE PICTURE!!! Love the water and the ducks make it near perfect!!
Dave
not a lot to get excited over hereinstalled the other garage door
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started in on the hvacductboard going inair exchanger in its closeton demand water heaters for radiant first floor and domestic hot water (still in box)air exchanger will be coupled with a high seer heatpump and also a hotwater coil from one of the water heatersthere will be a low speed fan to circulate household air constantly and a circulation pump to provide rapid hot waterNo Tag
you doing the duct work too?
if you don't mind why the ductboard instead of metal duct?
not doing the duct.plumbing, hvac and electric all done by the same guys1 inch ductboard has an r value of 5doesn't make noise as it cycles through changes in tempdoesn't sweatall the seams and edges are taped and sealed so the is no loss of airNo Tag
Edited 10/3/2009 6:30 am ET by hubcap
Have they started sealing the inside fiberglass on that stuff though? I would be leary of it myself given the possibility of airborn glass fibers already getting suspicion for cancer.
http://www.specjm.com/products/ductboard/enviroaire.aspwe have been using the stuff for ten years or moreNo Tag
here is a shot of the inner face of the ductboardit has an acrylic binder over the fibers to keep them from going airborn
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the ceiling drops are getting pretty crowded in areas
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some not so muchNo Tag
all but finished with the crawl walls and vapor barrierfew pieces left out where there is some sweating of copper to do and the band joists need insulated
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ready for permanent electric service so we got a trencher and put in three inch pvc conduit thirty inches deep, glued up and ready to goNo Tag
also ran conduit to the boathouseand put in underground drain lines for the downspouts
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backfilledNo Tag
just a weedNo Tag
Getting there!!
Here, we would be required to add fireblocking to separate the walls from the ceilings in those dropped ceiling areas. Regional differences I guess....
no I mentioned it a few posts back. Still needs done.could have made it easier by ripping plywood for backer before putting up the dropsNo Tag
OH - sorry I missed that...
here is a new and improved dropNo Tag
Permanent electric is doneNo Tag
seems like a lot of work for one receptacleanywaya while back I concluded the 34' rafters on the north side had too much deflection for my taste so I hung a beam about mid span to be tweaked later
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tweakingNo Tag
once the beam was moved up to midspan it had to be jacked ,posted, and secured in place.No Tag
took as much as an inch and a half deflection outthe roof doesn't look like a saucer to me anymore.No Tag
autumn leaves at nightNo Tag
Hubcap, why is there plywood against the studs when you build the soffits?
How are you hiding the beam you created to help the rafters?
As usual looking good!
Hi Dave,the plywood is serving the same purpose as 2x blocking for firestop.Hiding the purlin...the plan is too leave the beams, posts, knee braces and purlin exposed below a fir ceiling (clear finish) and paint it all flat black.there will also be 12" dia supply trunk up there for pushing out the airconditioning- also flat black.we are just saying "yea there is an elephant in the room..."No Tag
the plywood is serving the same purpose as 2x blocking for firestop.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We have never been called on that one. Makes sence now.
Thanks
Dave
a while back I concluded the 34' rafters on the north side had too much deflection for my taste so I hung a beam about mid span
That looks like what we would call a purlin.
Keep up the posting. Nice work, good to see there are still people unwilling to compromise the end product to increase the bottom line.View Image my website
Thanks.It is nice to be appreciated.I appreciate your appreciation it's uhnice.(wow. No wonder my wife tells me not to talk to people.)No Tag
I think that dropped ceiling is the easiest way.
way more painless than putting in all those blocks will be.finished the drops I think.No Tag
put in the last bit of drainage pipingpretty selfexplanatoryNo Tag
continuing the playing in the dirt...dug the trench for the water line and installed the well pump
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pitless adapter is ready to go
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supply line and nipple are readystarting to get pump assembly togetherNo Tag
I wanted to get the supply line laid in because rain was coming and working at the bottom of a water filled ditch isn't high on my list of fun things to doso I put a fresh battery in a cordless drill and an 1 3/4" hole saw and made ready to breach the well casing.took the well cap off and looked inside- static water level 2' above where the pitless was going in. So much for staying dry and being able to see what I was working on.my plan for threading on the adapter nipple while already installed on the supply pipe was a bust- too unwieldy.oh well the mail must go through...No Tag
I'm more interested in that purple nail! :)
ha!how are you mike?first day back from Scotland (jetlagged) and drilled that puppy.
stood on my head and shed tears for a full five minutes...No Tag
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little more of the pumpNo Tag
down the hole she goesand into the crawl to start on the pressure tankNo Tag
What's the story with the pink foamboard at the bottom of the trench? Way to help prevent the pipe from freezing?And in the crawlspace... how thick is that foam? And what kind of fasteners did you use?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Hey Steve,Yeah the pipe is a little shallow (top of the footer)going in so a little extra frost protection seemed like a good idea. (After final grade it will be deep enough anyway.)2" foam in the crawl fastened with 2 3/4" tapcons with 1/4" fender washers on the screws- went pretty fast and easyNo Tag
wellwellwellwater...finished up the pressure tank and assorted parts and temped wired it and viola'by the way, I am pretty over working in the crawl spaceNo Tag
old barn on the way to my MomsNo Tag
I figured they would have public water at the lake.
they did sewer didn't they?
yep.Indian Lake District Waste Water Authority or something like that.No Tag
Now that you've turned it on, will you have to stand there with your finger in the hose, like the Dutch boy at the dyke? :)Bet you're happy to be out of that crawl.Looking good there.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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oh boy- there is a finger in the dy- uh never mind...moving onI am getting the driveway ready to pourfound a fence post, thought to pop it out with my skidsteerturned into a thirty inch diameter stump. Bother.lucky for me guy next door was getting some tree work done and a stump grinder showed up.No Tag
skimmed off the top soil and set some lines to run the forms toI will get gravel (2s and 57s) on monday and compactpour week after next when I can get some help.No Tag
That sucks!
you have seen my concrete work evidently...No Tag
Why concrete, not asphault?
every drive on the street is concrete and the homeowner wants to fit inNo Tag
some formwork shotsNo Tag
moreand stone
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Edited 11/11/2009 7:07 pm ET by hubcap
I'll finish grading it tomorrow unless it kills me in which case it will be FridayNo Tag
Isn't that large stone hard to work to grade?
Looks like someone bought new concrete pins....
Why are you holding off on the siding?
yeah new pins... everytime I do concrete work I try and lose all the tools so I won't do it again.had to wait on the homeowner to pick the siding. Just did.No Tag
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Is that a large bird's nest I see to the right of the house? Directly over the portalet.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I think that is a squirrels nest.No Tag
finished up the pump assemblyNo Tag
could have made it easier by ripping plywood for backer before putting up the drops
I didn't know that. We always tried to get the fireblocking in while the walls were still on the ground. Tried is the operative word here!View Image my website
What's your estimated date of completion?
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
I was thinking more in line with what year of completion!>G<
Hi Jon,The home owner said the other day he would like to finish as quickly as humanly possible.
I said that would be great- leave the doors to the vault open please...he said never mind.let's say six monthsNo Tag
Hey hubcap, didn't mean any offense.
Looks like almost time for the rock!!
no worries...sneaking up on drywallsurprised today when the inspector looked at the electric he said "Nice work gents. If it won't upset you too much I'll sign off the framing while I am here too.""Well hell- okay. But I am still putting in the firestop."No Tag
Don't you love inspectors like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Say, that's starting to look like a house!Was that intentional? :)What are those padded supports on the copper piping? Do they also serve as an anti-vibration mechanism?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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unintended consequenceit was supposed to be a rabbit...run away! run away!so I checked the supports outthey are inch and a half conduit clamps with foam pipe insulationthe plumbers said they had a supply line that squeaked against the normal copper clamps when hot water ran through it. The pipe expanded enough to move.no noise since they started started securing lines this way and the lies are ready for insulating tooNo Tag
You got your travel schedule marked out yet?Would have been a neat trick if you could have had that toad hop out in time to surprise Dr. Endoscope.
By the way, how about that Tom Watson this week!
'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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hmmwhere were we?turns out the wimmen went to the lake and I got to stay home and workso maybe we can hook up around Thanksgiving time Steve.meanwhile back at the oasis...the plumbers have come in and made themselves homelyNo Tag
do not set that tub before I insulate behind it fellasI have been setting doorsNo Tag
of all typesNo Tag
and more framing and punchoutNo Tag
these plumber guys seemed like decent people until they started making more work for me...No Tag
What were they thinking????
they weren't....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
well I better come clean herethere isn't enough wall space for everything that has to go up and down in this house- I knew that when I sat down with the prints the first time- so I framed the first floor walls at ten feet to accommodate plumbing and heating below the joists. When they get done I'll drop a ceiling in at nine feet and nobody will know except you and meNo Tag
do not set that tub before I insulate behind it fellas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
I saw that and was going to ask what type of insulation do you use, but you caught it!!
I had this one window salesman I would only use in a pinch but I would follow him to all his new jobs because he always screwed up the sizes and I would then buy them for pennies on the dollar. you might know him. I think he's worked at every window place in columbus but now he sells concrete block. it was a good move on his part because they ard standard sizes and can be resold :)
used to have a window sales lady-
she never got anything right
nobody cared
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Nice shots of the steel posts and the volume ceiling, particularly 2624. So when are the first services scheduled?
Seriously, HC nice job!. I always enjoy this thread.
Runnerguy
thanks,
I hope to have mechanicals under way next week.No Tag
Great Job, nice to see a least afew photos in PHOTO GALLERY, that someone has let in yet, I always thought a picture was worth a thousand words and now you only can post a thousand pictures maybe time to find a different site.
Thanks.yes you would think photos in a photo gallery would be appropriate...No Tag
3200' lane to be put in to get access
I hope they don't mind plowing snow.
I wish I built dollhouses.
I bet they are closer to the ground.No Tag
Funny you should say that. My wife has 7 or 8 doll houses around the house! She doesn't even get on a step ladder for them!>G<
forgot to call today ...
Done!
all's left is a million small details.
pump jacks come down either Fri or Sat ... which ever has sun.
George survived.
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
George will never be the same I bet.
Don't believe what they say about details...
the devil is in a fiddle playing pig in Georgia
I am pretty sure
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yeah it is harder to grade but it doesn't have to be particularly close so I could use the skidsteer bucket for most of it.
hand graded the biggest part of the 57's after tailgating it into the drive
spread and graded
then compacted
figured I would be comfortable pouring and finishing half the drive at a timemy help has never done any concrete work and I am no profinished the form work and set grade stakes6x6wwf in place(I almost forgot to pull the darn stuff up into the mud)No Tag
and here we goplacing and screedingNo Tag
edgedbull floatedfloatedNo Tag
Thats some back breaking work in the summer and some boring stuff in the winter. comin right along.
that is a fact.the crewNo Tag
they caught me smiling about somethingprobably means I don't know what is going onNo Tag
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okayfirst set of control joints are cutNo Tag
and the rest is placedNo Tag
Is that your insulating contractor??
no, guy across the street was having some work done.No Tag
Didn't think it was you.
drag a broom over it and call it a dayNo Tag
"figured I would be comfortable pouring and finishing half the drive at a time
my help has never done any concrete work and I am no pro"
We just did a 700 SF garage and used 3" slump with a water-reducer which brought us up to about a 7" slump for placing. That with fibermesh instead of WWF made for a much less frenetic job, IMHO.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
let's see pour details 5 inch slump, 6 percent air, 1 percent accelerator , didn't add any water, temps in the upper forties at pour time rising to the mid fifties and staying above forty until Thanksgiving nighttime on truck from batch plant to placed about 50 minutesthe whole thing start to finish each day about four hourssecond day was overcast and damp so I went with 2 percent acceleratoralso bagged the wwf and went with fibermesh the second pour (you are right much easier)one other guy that could run a trowel would have made a huge difference but it wasn't horrible...
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Yeah, I guess one thing I forgot is that a plasticizer helps on the placing side, but a slab that is getting away from you, plasticizer or no plasticizer, is a big problem.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
finished productgoing to seal it on Friday (weather permitting)No Tag
I think you could've handled it all in one pour from the looks of those photos.
wellwhat do I gain? one day if I do one pour- half day really.what do I stand to lose if I can't get a finish on it before it sets?No Tag
I feel ya.
Friday was a bit wet and cool so I will wait for another day to apply sealer to the concrete.We are adding a little bit of floor space to what amounts to a loft so I anchored a hanger to one of the square steel posts and set a microlamthen put the final pieces together on the purlin and jack postsand then took down the catwalksNo Tag
purlin squared away
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started putting white gold on the outside of the house
least it ought to be gold for the price
only one picture would upload. no time to figure out
anyway hung some drywall behind where the airhandler goes.
taped and coated with hot mud
still plugging away
well
how about that...
okay
exterior trim shots
More exterior shots
front is
More exterior shots
front is trimmed out
started on sides and back
siding is started on front
and on north side of garage
trim block at gas service
inside I mentioned a while ago work on the loft area and purlin
since those pics seem to be lost I will re-post
purlin
view from above
loft area looking down
all the infernal fire stopping is done
and the heat runs are all roughed in
and the phone and cable wires are pulled
so
we are ready to insulate
in ten days when I get back from another vacation
and so
au revoir