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   mackzully | Apr 06, 2009 06:03pm | #1

   Are you using wood or RC-1/hat channel? I'd be interested in differences in technique for the different materials as I'm about to start in with RC-1 on my ceilings.

   Z

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   JeffCraw | Apr 06, 2009 06:08pm | #2

   I'll be using spruce 1x3s.

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   hammer1 | Apr 06, 2009 06:30pm | #3

   Yes to both questions.

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   Piffin | Apr 06, 2009 06:33pm | #4

   For me, the answer has always been yes to both, but I believe a case can be made for not always needed. Might be OK to leave loose ends at gable with trusses...I rarely have done any truss roof frames, none since starting to use strapping 20 years ago.

    

    

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   MikeSmith | Apr 06, 2009 07:05pm | #5

   i'd agree to the yes but the more i do it the less emphatic i'd be about the "yes"fer instance..... butting joints on a joist ...????......not sure i'm really gaining anythingawful lot of splits in that conection just letting the joints fall where they may would seem to be just as strong , if not stronger.... the 1x3 is what .... 10 -12 " from the next joist ?and adding blocking to a gable end just to have a nailer for the strapping ?only if the gable end needs stabilizing... if there is no floor system to tie the gable end.. then the strapping can do that.. but it's certainly not needed as far as supporting the ceilingMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   Piffin | Apr 06, 2009 07:09pm | #6

   you're in my mind 

    

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   PatchogPhil | Apr 06, 2009 11:52pm | #8

   When I strapped my ceilings, I was "afeared" of splits at the ends. So I pre-drilled w/a small countersink - used one of those quick-change flip bits (drill bit w/countersink on one end and the Phillips bit on the other). Didn't really slow me down and I did not have any splits.But I get what you are saying ... even if a 1x3 ends 10" from a ceiling joist, the next strapping is screwed just about 4" away (if joists are 16" OC). The drywall should "tie" the two together, right? 

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   MikeSmith | Apr 07, 2009 12:08am | #9

   that's  my  thinking...  and  you  know  great  minds  think  alikeMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   egdc | Apr 07, 2009 01:43am | #12

   I've always ended strapping on a joist, the way I was taught.. but I can't see why it really makes any differenceespecially if you stagger the seams, which should be done anyways.

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   gigi | Apr 07, 2009 01:49am | #13

   i've always nailed to joist for fear of the strapping twisting and warping if left un-nailed between joists or gables.

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   Mongo | Apr 06, 2009 11:50pm | #7

   I'm a "no" to the first. I'll let 'em float.

   I'm a "yes" to the second. As to the second, I used to nail off a leftover 2x on top of the top plate, overhanging it a bit into the room. If no strapping, the drywall gets screwed off on that. If strapping, the strapping gets nailed off to that.

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   Piffin | Apr 07, 2009 12:21am | #10

   I think I'mabout to start free floating all the end butts. Might even save $2 worth materials on a big job ;) 

    

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   AitchKay | Apr 07, 2009 12:50am | #11

   MikeSmith: fer instance..... butting joints on a joist ...????......not sure i'm really gaining Mongo: I'm a "no" to the first. I'll let 'em float*********************************Once we all switched to drywall screws, the need to land on a joist ended.And don't forget the drywall glue holding it all together.At gables, you might well end up with fewer cracks -- floating the ends of the ceiling sheets lets the ceiling move with the walls, and is common practice in a lot of places.AitchKay

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   Mongo | Apr 07, 2009 03:08am | #14

   More time saved than materials, especially with black diamond joist spacing.And with you on dial-up, you need all the free time you can get!<g>

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   ronbudgell | Apr 07, 2009 03:21am | #15

   Jeff,

   On 8' ceilings, I often do this job alone, because it's faster that way. I'l cut maybe three straps one length and another three longer by the distance between the trusses, hold them up (one at a time, I'm not superman) and staple them - no splitting with staples. Butt joints on the trusses because if there's a long piece projecting unsupported, that's where somebody is going to try to set a drywall screw and end up punching the nose of the screw gun through.

   Truss bottom chords should already have been straigtened, so you don't need to think about that.

   Most certainly a nailer at the gable end. There's nothing else there holding it at ceiling height.

   Ron

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   Hackinatit | Apr 07, 2009 03:42am | #16

   There's nothing else there holding it at ceiling height.

   Except, maybe, the wallboard.A La Carte Government funding... the real democracy.