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Strongest magnet. Screw bit holder.

Luka | Posted in Tools for Home Building on March 16, 2009 01:33am

When I am working with screws, I like to have a bit holder that will pick up several screws at a time, if I stick it in the bag of screws.

Means it holds onto the one screw, the best, when trying to hold a piece of material with one hand, and use the impact driver with the other.

What is the -consistantly- strongest driver bit holder that you have found ?

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  1. cargin | Mar 16, 2009 01:57am | #1

    Luka

    I have a better question.

    Why do I always lose the one I like best and I can't seem to get rid of the ones don't work well?

    Where do they all go?

    I like the Makita 3", but I am having a hard time finding them.

    On Amazon they are always grouped with longer extentions and misc bits I really don't want.

    Seems that bit extentions are getting more and more expensive. $7-$8 range.

    Rich

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      Luka | Mar 16, 2009 02:24am | #4

      Exactly why I want to find the best ones I can find. I have the krappy ones all over the place. I lose the good ones.I am hoping for really good, but still fairly cheap. I think the best one I ever had was a cheapo.
      ....

      1. Snort | Mar 16, 2009 02:33am | #7

        You move me to Florida and I'll be glad to give you the finger... might be a flanger from there...http://www.tvwsolar.com

        I went down to the lobby

        To make a small call out.

        A pretty dancing girl was there,

        And she began to shout,

        "Go on back to see the gypsy.

        He can move you from the rear,

        Drive you from your fear,

        Bring you through the mirror.

        He did it in Las Vegas,

        And he can do it here."

    2. AitchKay | Mar 16, 2009 02:59am | #11

      When I find a co-worker using an Apex holder, I grill ‘em on where they got it. If they “can’t remember,” or say Builder’s Squaw, or something, I take it back. It’s hard enough to find a distributor around here, and Apex is too expensive ($10-$20), to just end up with one by chance. That’s how I end up losing the good ones. It’s not necessarily outright, conscious theft -- some guys couldn’t honestly tell you what brand they use, so if they pick one up off the bench, and like it, it stays in their gun.One thing I've done to personalize my holders is to drill a hole through a chunk of 2x to fit it, chuck up the holder, stick it through the 2x, and touch a Sawzall bade to it, leaving a nice, neat groove on it that no one else has on theirs.As I said, they're expensive, but buy one to try it out. The extra $ won't kill you. But then you'll be hooked.Aitchkay

      1. cargin | Mar 16, 2009 03:11am | #14

        Kay

        I have never heard of Apex.

        I work with my 2 sons. All theft is in house. LOL

        We try to mark tools Red, yellow and orange so that they somewhat go back to the right truck.

        The company( mostly me) owns all the tools, but I try to keep all of the vehicles stocked somewhat evenly so that when I send someone to a jobsite, the tools to do the job are in the vehicle.

        It's a constant chinese firedrill with tools because I often send them out with my van to start a job, because it is stocked the best, while I look at work.

        Or one of us leaves early and tools are left behind.

        But I know where all the bit holders are. On my son's dresser. LOL Or buried in one of my tool pouches under a bunch of nails. LOL

        Rich

        1. AitchKay | Mar 16, 2009 03:15am | #15

          Yep, on the dresser! That's where I find mine. And before, when I used to swap out the 1" bits all of the time, they'd end up in my watch pocket, and, of course, from there right into the wash. What a familiar sound -- 1" hex bits in the dryer!AitchKay

          1. cargin | Mar 16, 2009 03:20am | #17

            Kay

            What a familiar sound -- 1" hex bits in the dryer!

            My wife knows it well.

            I put clothes in the washer 1st thing in the morning and then throw them in the dryer before I head out the door.

            Then she comes downstairs to remove the bits. LOL

            Rich

          2. andybuildz | Mar 16, 2009 04:53am | #28

            Kay

            What a familiar sound -- 1" hex bits in the dryer!

            My wife knows it well.

            I put clothes in the washer 1st thing in the morning and then throw them in the dryer before I head out the door.

            Then she comes downstairs to remove the bits. LOL

            Rich<<<

            Rich & Kay

            Now thats a thread unto itself fer sure!! When I hear my bits and loose screws clanging around the dryer I'm like.....SHIIIIDDDDDDD....myyyyyyyyyyy material listssssss.....and DW KNOWS my pockets are my file cabinets and never to throw my clothes in the wash B/4 checking em'...'specially my pants until all my pockets are emptied.

            The minute I hear that rattling of the dryer I know my material lists and all my chicken scratches I've been saving on varies pcs of paper from pcs of cardboard boxes to the backs of warranty cards to...have been eaten up by the washer...grrrrr.

            I'm trying  to get better at emptying my pockets when I get home but c'mon....ya know?

            I try and put things in my phone under "my lists" but thats about as hard as using Excel instead of using my yellow legal pads...lol.....I am trying though....watch me!!

            LOOK OUT!...lol

             

             

             

            http://www.cliffordrenovations.com

            http://www.ramdass.org

             

          3. AitchKay | Mar 16, 2009 05:03am | #29

            One reason I do my own laundry! But I still miss those 1" bits!AitchKay

          4. cargin | Mar 16, 2009 05:07am | #30

            andy

             

            did you give up on excel?

            Rich

          5. andybuildz | Mar 16, 2009 07:19am | #31

            Give up on Excel? No..not in the least. I even got 2 books out of the library to keep puter side along with your tutorial.

            Didn't ya check my last entry back in the other thread?

            I've done pretty well so far in a short time.

            Have my formulas figured out and a buncha other stuff. At least enough to actually use it without my calculator...lol.

             

             

             

            http://www.cliffordrenovations.com

            http://www.ramdass.org

             

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        Dam_inspector | Mar 16, 2009 03:58am | #20

        Apex rules!My friends dad worked for them for years. They are here in town, but they are hard to buy from. Flea market sellers have bins of stuff sometimes, but Apex makes some truly wacky specialty stuff, and that seems to be what the flea market has. The bits are real quality.

        1. KenHill3 | Mar 16, 2009 04:06am | #21

          I see that Apex is now a part of CooperTools.It kinda appears that Ace hardware sells apex.

          Edited 3/15/2009 9:07 pm by kenhill3

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            Dam_inspector | Mar 16, 2009 04:12am | #24

            Several industrial supply houses sell them here. They are worth the money, but you're paying real americans to make them, so the price doesn't compare to foreign tools. Of course Apex tools have a very long life, so that evens it up. They are mostly used in industrial factories.

          2. Snort | Mar 16, 2009 04:12am | #25

            Didn't see ace, but it looks like fastenal has them, too.http://www.tvwsolar.com

            I went down to the lobby

            To make a small call out.

            A pretty dancing girl was there,

            And she began to shout,

            "Go on back to see the gypsy.

            He can move you from the rear,

            Drive you from your fear,

            Bring you through the mirror.

            He did it in Las Vegas,

            And he can do it here."

          3. AitchKay | Mar 16, 2009 04:42am | #27

            That's good to know. Fastenal has two branches here, one about 10 minutes away, the other maybe 20. I remember when one local place quit carrying Apex the buyer commented to me that Apex wanted him to carry $10K worth of inventory to be an outlet for them. And that was around 1980!AitchKay

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        jonblakemore | Mar 16, 2009 09:16pm | #36

        "When I find a co-worker using an Apex holder, I grill ‘em on where they got it. If they “can’t remember,” or say Builder’s Squaw, or something, I take it back."

        Why don't you just mark your bit holders with fingernail polish? 

        Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA

        1. AitchKay | Mar 17, 2009 01:40am | #41

          Well, it's not that easy -- I'm having a hard time picking out a shade that sets off my eyes just right. But I'm going to have my colors done by this woman who's really good.Aitchkay

  2. Snort | Mar 16, 2009 01:58am | #2

    my fingers...

    http://www.tvwsolar.com

    I went down to the lobby

    To make a small call out.

    A pretty dancing girl was there,

    And she began to shout,

    "Go on back to see the gypsy.

    He can move you from the rear,

    Drive you from your fear,

    Bring you through the mirror.

    He did it in Las Vegas,

    And he can do it here."

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      Luka | Mar 16, 2009 02:25am | #5

      So... Do you mail me your fingers, or do I have to bring all my work down to Florida ?;o)
      ....

      1. Junkman001 | Mar 16, 2009 03:07am | #13

        So... Do you mail me your fingers,

        You have to send him yours first.  Or pay the core charge.

         

        MikeInsert initially amusing but ultimately annoying catch phrase here.

  3. AitchKay | Mar 16, 2009 01:59am | #3

    Dude. Great minds think alike. Head on over to "Impact mag insert that works?" We're only a couple of posts ahead o you on this one.

    AitchKay

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      Luka | Mar 16, 2009 02:26am | #6

      Dang !I'll go have a look right after I post this.I didn't open that one because I thought it was about something like the magsaw.....

  4. AitchKay | Mar 16, 2009 02:40am | #8

    Well here's where we were 2 hours ago on the other thread:

    "...I've found Apex holders and bits to be way superior to others.

    Put matching bits, #3 Phillips, say, in different holders, and do the tug-of-war trick with a ball bearing -- the Apex always wins.

    And their bits are sharper-edged, crisper-edged than others, and stay that way longer than any other brand I've ever used."

    AitchKay

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      Luka | Mar 16, 2009 02:52am | #9

      The magnetic ring is the closest thing in that thread to answering the question I am actually asking.I have more problems with bits breaking, than with them sticking in the holder. When they get stuck in the holder, it just takes a tap sideways to get them loose. And/or a pair of pliers. What's the big deal ? Takes someone an extra minute or so, to finish the job ???I just want a really strong magnet inside the bit holder.....

      1. Snort | Mar 16, 2009 02:56am | #10

        We have tried every bit we can buy... bosch snaps with little or no provocation... Kobalt seems to hang in there for the long haul.http://www.tvwsolar.com

        I went down to the lobby

        To make a small call out.

        A pretty dancing girl was there,

        And she began to shout,

        "Go on back to see the gypsy.

        He can move you from the rear,

        Drive you from your fear,

        Bring you through the mirror.

        He did it in Las Vegas,

        And he can do it here."

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          Luka | Mar 16, 2009 03:17am | #16

          My experience as well.They might as well rename the bosch bits, "snap-off".
          ....

      2. AitchKay | Mar 16, 2009 03:04am | #12

        "I just want a really strong magnet inside the bit holder."Me, too. As I posted, I'll even glue 'em in! I don't care how hard they are to remove; I don't remove 'em until it's time to throw 'em away!But do the tug-of-war test some time with an Apex holder. I think you'll be impressed.AitchKay

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          Luka | Mar 16, 2009 03:20am | #18

          My concern is not holding the bit in the holder.I want a magnet that is strong enough that I actually have to pull the screw off of the bit, once positioned. Rather than the way they just fall off the bit, with the cheapos.....

          1. KenHill3 | Mar 16, 2009 03:49am | #19

            Luka-

            You wanted a strong magnet? Here, I have these:

            View Image

            View Image

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            Luka | Mar 16, 2009 04:09am | #22

            I have one of those.I'll admit, the magnet is pretty strong.Well, at least the one in the yellow slider.The other magnet wouldn't even hold itself in the bit holder, if it weren't glued there.I don't like the slider. I don't like sliders, on general principle. This one just seems to go out of it's way to be in the way.....

            Proud participant in the witless protection program...

          3. AitchKay | Mar 16, 2009 04:11am | #23

            Exactly what I was talking about -- the tug-of-war test. Maybe it's over in that other thread -- this is confusing.AitchKay

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    popawheelie | Mar 16, 2009 04:13am | #26

    I think the jackrabbit system is the best. This is the system. http://www.jackrabbittool.com/

    And this the magnet you can put on any 1/4" hex bit. Scroll down for the mag ring.

    http://www.jackrabbittool.com/parts.html

  6. plumbbill | Mar 16, 2009 06:19pm | #32

    How about a custom one.

    Drill out the old magnet & put in a neodynium one.

    Or you can get this baby around the whole chuck.

    View Image

    Be carefull it will wipe out a tv 8' away.

    http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm

     

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      Luka | Mar 16, 2009 06:41pm | #33

      Wow.And, I have been thinking along the lines of a custom one, myself. Just need to find the right magnets.....

      Proud participant in the witless protection program...

      1. plumbbill | Mar 16, 2009 06:47pm | #34

        @ 325 bucks I don't think that magnet is what ya had in mind ;-)

        But I just bought 17 of their 3/4" x 1/8" for my kids hamster powered night light science project. buck a piece.

        http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm

        They have them in a varety of sizes & shapes.

         

        1. mms | Mar 16, 2009 08:56pm | #35

          I have a friend who couldn't keep a pair of sunglasses for a week without losing them or sitting on 'em.  Then he decided to get serious, and bought a $100 pair.  He became VERY careful about where he put 'em when he took 'em off, and that pair lasted years.  Much better economy than $12 per week.

          The same thing can apply to small tools.  Spend an amount that you consider TOO MUCH, and you will always be aware of that tool.  If it's in your pocket, you will remember that you put it there.

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          Luka | Mar 16, 2009 10:52pm | #38

          Thank you.I bookmarked the page.....

          Proud participant in the witless protection program...

      2. AitchKay | Mar 17, 2009 01:44am | #42

        But before you go all "reinvent the wheel" on us, do yourself a favor and buy an Apex.AitchKay

    2. reinvent | Mar 17, 2009 12:42am | #40

      My computer just went blank! What did you do?! ;-)

  7. BilljustBill | Mar 16, 2009 09:57pm | #37

    It's the one that I added twin magnets to the driver shank, in the same pole direction as the original, and went over them with electrical tape... 

    Just don't lay your driver down near anything else... ;>)

    Bill

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      Luka | Mar 16, 2009 10:56pm | #39

      That's probably what I will end up doing, if I can find the right magnets.....

      Proud participant in the witless protection program...

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