HI all!
i am new to “breaktime”.
i am a general contractor in Oakland California. I own a home built in 1927 when there was a lathers strike for about two years. As a result, my home has redwood sheathing with grooves that hold the stucco without wire, BUT, that also means there is NO TAR PAPER!
Although it has held up incredible well, the stucco invariable cracks with all the earthquakes…. and lots of moisture gets through to the back of the sheathing and runs downs the face of the studs. Because the old plaster and stucco breathe, it works but, i am forced to seismic retrofit the house and would like to insulate as well and am looking for some compromise that won’t result in peeling the entire exterior and starting over.
Any feedback on my idea of using p.t. ply with rigid foam with an air gap and caulking every joint that is adjacent to the old stucco?
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I'm pretty sure you need to peel it off and sheet it with the right sheeting and nail schedule. Have you seen how they are sheathing new structures in your area? They are very picky about the right sheathing and nail schedule. Right down to whether the nails break the surface of the plywood.
While you are at it you could check how well the bottom plate is held down. No sense in sheathing real well only to have the house jump off the foundation.
Imo there's no way around it considering the standards that are in place now.
I know a guy who owned an older rental house with a couple of businesses below it.
an earthquake hit and it was a teardown. You don't want that. If you shear it properly it will stand up in an earthquake.
Edited 10/14/2007 10:14 pm ET by popawheelie
no question about shearing, it's required. i am looking for a solution that won't rot the new plywood where it is nexto or below the old sheathing. i have a number of large holes in the structure after doing the foundationa and can't decide what is my best option. i am looking for someone who has used riged foam insulation and plywood in an area that was exposed to moisture for an extended period of time.
Tom, greetings from a former Oaklander. We lived on Montgomery Street near Piedmont Ave for quite a while.
Lots of old buildings have been ruined by insulation. What you have now only works because the wind whistles thru it. As soon as you tighten it up the problems will start. I would rework any areas you can using typical stucco applications.... plywood sheathing, 2-ply felt, wire, stucco, etc. Yes, it amounts to starting from scratch and it's depressing. It's what I did to most of our old place, as well as the one we live in now.
I have a friend doing a project in the Uplands right now that had the same redwood lath. It has been removed and will be redone from scratch. Are you suggesting leaving existing stucco and adding shear and foam on top of it?
I always thought the grooved redwood lath predated tarpaper. I've never heard the lathers strike thing before. I don't think there was much in the way of organised labor back then.
Mike
Trust in God, but row away from the rocks.
yep,my house was built in 1927. stucco with wire and paper is found on most of the homes in my area and many predate my house.
i am hoping to fill in and patch large sections after doing my foundation, like where the brick chimney used to be and a lot of the lower level. i also need to shear in corners and on the lower level so i am looking for a solution that won't mean stripping all of the sheathing and stucco.