We may be bidding on a design build summer camp project. We pretty much know the particulars. The buildings will house up to 36 kids each and the ones we’ve researched had only three toilets in it. This does not count the separate counselors bathroom.
Does this seem like enough to you? Thats only 1 toilet per twelve kids.
Just wondering if anyone else had experience with this.
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I worked at a summer camp 50 years ago for 5 years,
Typical week was 75 boys, 75 girls. 3 sit-downs and a 5 foot trough in the boys, seven sit-downs in the girls ( I remember, cause I cleaned them every day for 5 summers)
Did not ever recall a problem with that setup except when there was parent visitation after a campfire, then there were lines.
So, we had 10 toilets and a 5 foot trough for 150 kids, that works down to 10 per.
Maybe you should add one or 2?, esp. if there is a parent visitation night, nothing "pi$$es off" parents (pun intended) to not be able to Pi$$ right away after sitting for an hour.
They say that usually there are only about 25-30 kids on most occasions which would be about ten to one ratio.
But if its a packed house its 12 to 1. That did seem like a lot to me.
Maybe a separate bath for the visiting adults would be a good thing.
When everthing is going your way, you're in the wrong lane
Potty parody in the MA plumbing code for dormitories is 1 water closet per 6 females and 1 water closet per 8 males (33% urinals). They define dormitories as accomodating more than 5 people older than 2-1/2 years of age. Might want to check with your plumbing inspector.
That does sound more like it.
Will probably go with something like the former so they can be unisex. Will probably not use any urinals.
That way they can have an all girl week if they need to.When everthing is going your way, you're in the wrong lane
Around here, I'm pretty sure the health department specifies how many toilets and urinals you have to have in public buildings.
And of course some of them have to be HC accessable.
You'll probably have to get the answer locally, sicne I'm sure this will vary frmo noe area to another.
I'm pretty sure the health department specifies how many toilets and urinals you have to have in public buildings.
Yeah, I will have to check probably tomorow. I havent had time to yet.
Just thought I'd get a little feedback until then. BTW thanks for reminding me about the HC aspect. On a project like this I just havent thought about that.
May not even get it so I'm not going to put to much thought into it until I do.
To All:
Thanks for all the input so far.When everthing is going your way, you're in the wrong lane
Besides toilets, do you need to provide extra shut off valves and drainage points for closing up the camp in the off season?
buic
Our local Boy Scout Council was faced with the need for newer, larger bathroom facilities a few years ago. We have some pretty strict child-safety rules, of course. We needed to come up with an affordable design, but we wanted to be able to accomodate adults and children, but never in the same room together. So if we built a common shower room, we would pretty much need four of them - adult male, young male, adult female, young female.
With help from the BSA, we designed and built a new bath house with ten individual units. Toilet, sink, shower - single entrance with a lock. So an adult male could come out of the unit, and a young Scout or even a little sister could use it next. It's really worked well. There's a maintenance cloest for the mops, etc., and it houses the water heater.
Food for thought.
Greg
Edited 8/23/2007 2:27 pm ET by GregGibson