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Syringe

jyang949 | Posted in Tools for Home Building on August 24, 2009 11:31am

I need to inject glue into a piece of wood. Where can I buy a syringe with a coarse needle? I called arts & crafts stores, but they don’t have any.

Janet

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  1. craigf | Aug 24, 2009 11:44pm | #1

    Here in rural america, there are farm supply stores that sell them. That may not be the case where you are. Maybe an animal vet?

    Seems like I've seen a glue injector in a woodworking catalog. Maybe this will bump the thread to where someone with a better memory will see it.

  2. restorationday | Aug 24, 2009 11:47pm | #2

    How about a marinade injector?

    http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_23681____SearchResults

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    Sphere | Aug 24, 2009 11:51pm | #3

    Local large animal vet.

    I get dremel tips from my dentist for woodworking too...

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  4. ronbudgell | Aug 25, 2009 12:09am | #4

    http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=20003&cat=1,110,42967

    If the seam is a bit larger, you might be able to use a children's oral medicine syringe, which your local drug store will sell you two or three for a dollar.

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    observer | Aug 25, 2009 12:48am | #5

    Local pharmacy.

    Explain what you are doing and they should have something.

  6. Shacko | Aug 25, 2009 01:06am | #6

    Go to your neighborhood shooting gallery, there should be lots laying around, and they're free! ;)

     

    "If all else fails, read the directions"
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    IMERC | Aug 25, 2009 02:10am | #7

    Woodcrafters..

    LeValley...

    http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=20003&cat=1,110,42967&ap=1

     

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!! What a Ride!


    Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

     

    "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

    1. Bing187 | Aug 25, 2009 02:16am | #9

      Stop by a fire station with a rescue in quarters....

      I might be persuaded to give you one, without the needle but with the plastic catheter so I'd know you weren't shooting up with it. A 14 gauge would probably flow glue ok.

      Bing

      1. KenHill3 | Aug 25, 2009 02:50am | #10

        +1 on farm supply store.

        I've tried to buy syringes with needles at the vet, but no go. They just GAVE me one of these:

        View ImageView Image

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          xxPaulCPxx | Aug 25, 2009 04:02am | #11

          Yep, I've got to get a few more of those myself. Only problem is they might only be good for one use... sometimes the black seal pops off the plunger.

          Tu stultus esRebuilding my home in Cypress, CAAlso a CRX fanatic!

          Look, just send me to my drawer.  This whole talking-to-you thing is like double punishment.

          1. KenHill3 | Aug 25, 2009 06:09am | #12

            I think to buy 'em they are like really cheap.View Image

  8. YesMaam27577 | Aug 25, 2009 02:14am | #8

    Woodcraft stores (or mail order, or website) probably still sells the "Chair Doctor" stuff, which includes such a needle and some glue.

    I'd bet that Rockler also has something same or similar.

    I won't be laughing at the lies when I'm gone,
    And I can't question how or when or why when I'm gone;
    I can't live proud enough to die when I'm gone,
    So I guess I'll have to do it while I'm here. (Phil Ochs)

  9. kreuzie | Aug 25, 2009 06:30am | #13

    Do you have a farm store, like Tractor Supply, within driving range? They sell the large animal syringes and BIG needles to go with them.

    Just make sure that you thoroughly clean the syringe (especially if it's a glass one) and the needle after injecting the glue, or you will never be able to use them again because of the dried glue.

    kreuzie

    1. KenHill3 | Aug 25, 2009 07:24am | #14

      Are glass syringes actually used anymore?View Image

      1. kreuzie | Aug 26, 2009 01:20am | #20

        I wondered, too, after I posted. Just checked on the internet, and there are a bunch of distributors for glass syringes.

        But....for glue, plastic would be just fine.

        kreuzie

  10. splintergroupie | Aug 25, 2009 10:57am | #15

    Janet, if you have compressed air, it's the best way to force glue deep in a slender crack.

    1. jyang949 | Aug 26, 2009 12:07am | #17

      Do you mean a can of compressed air for blowing dust out of a computer? How do you use that to insert glue?Janet

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        Sphere | Aug 26, 2009 12:44am | #18

        That could do in a pinch, but I think she means a real air comp. and blow nozzle.

        Drizzle the glue on the joint or crack and "push" it in with the air. Direct the straw if so equiped of the canned air at the gluey joint space and blast it. Then wipe up excess after clamping. Remember, most glues NEED to be clamped to be effective.

        A shop vac can pull into a crack , like a table top, from the other side as well, if it's accessable.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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      2. splintergroupie | Aug 28, 2009 09:01pm | #21

        I meant compressed air from a compressor, since i haven't used the canned air. It's really a whole lot better and faster way of getting glue all over the inside of a crack, but you'll have to judge if the canned air would do it. It doesn't take much air at all and not that high of pressure so i'm just guessing canned air would work. If it does, write it up as a "tip" for some magazine and make enough $$$ to buy a little compressor. <G>

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          IMERC | Aug 28, 2009 09:09pm | #22

          try a shop vac from the back side of the crack...

          neater and cleaner... 

          Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

          WOW!!! What a Ride!

          Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

           

          "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          1. splintergroupie | Aug 29, 2009 02:54am | #23

            You can't always get to the back side of the crack, though. Every woman needs a compressor and i've never seen a better excuse for her to buy one. Hey, while you're here...i was cutting kerfs in my slab with my Bosch 1658 and the electricity started leaking out the vent holes. It was running still when i stopped it, but continued to smoke once i unplugged. I cooled it down before it burst into flames with air from the compressor, but something got cooked, and it smelled something awful. Any recommendations what to look for once i find a teeny torx driver to remove the *&#)$ screws sunk way deep in the housing? Motor kaput? It's barely been broken in... *sob*

          2. ronbudgell | Aug 29, 2009 03:47am | #24

            splint

            The only Bosch tool I ever owned, an 8" circular saw, did exactly the same thing. Prematurely worn bearings let the armature touch the field windings. Toast.

            Unlike you, though, I hated that thing. It was the most uncomfortable saw I ever used.

            Ron

          3. splintergroupie | Aug 29, 2009 04:03am | #25

            Dang, i was hoping it wasn't terminal. I really have barely used the thing and was taking 1/4" cuts in the slab...thought i was being conservative at that. It looks like i'll be perusing the "what's the best saw...." threads. Thanks for your input. When i think of the grief i caused my 30-y.o. Crapsman and it just kept running...parts fell off, sure, but the blade kept going around...

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            IMERC | Aug 29, 2009 05:16am | #27

            don't know that saw...

            I have 77's or Milwaukee sidewinders...

            call 1-877-267-2499....

            ask for a senior tech... (there are only 4)

            tell them I sent ya...

            have no mercy...

            back it up with and email to [email protected]  

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          5. splintergroupie | Aug 29, 2009 08:14am | #28

            Thanks for their number! I thought, after hearing Ron's tale, of contacting the company. I googled the model and found it's no longer carried at Amazon, and only one review. It seems it was a extremely short-lived model, probably for a very good reason. This thing still looks like i just pulled it out of the bag, so i'll do some name-dropping first, strong-arming if necessary, on Monday.I've been looking at the alternatives on Amazon, mainly 77s and Milwaukee, off and on tonight. I liked the Bosch for the weight, so i'll do some comparisons on that count, too, but i got side-tracked tonight with a couple grocery sacks full of green beans to blanche/freeze.

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            IMERC | Aug 29, 2009 04:45pm | #29

            what was Ron"s tale???

            of course nobody will know me you know that...

            I don't really care much for the Bosh circulars.. no special reason.. just don't like them... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          7. splintergroupie | Aug 29, 2009 06:31pm | #30

            Ron's tale = Post #26. His 8" exhibited the same behavior.And, as if dropping your name wouldn't be sufficient, i have a variety of others to use on them, too. <G>

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            IMERC | Aug 29, 2009 06:44pm | #33

            how much soap should we get ready??? 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          9. splintergroupie | Aug 29, 2009 07:04pm | #35

            Soap? Is that something the pro's use????

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            IMERC | Aug 29, 2009 07:10pm | #37

            it's all in the application.... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          11. ronbudgell | Aug 29, 2009 06:34pm | #31

            Nobody who uses Milwaukee saws would like the feel of a Bosch.

            The saw I broiled was an 8" Bosch I bought used from a rental store. I needed an 8 in a hurry when I was building a couple of wooden tanks for seals at a marine research lab. They told me the saw was pretty new. I knew these guys. They weren't lying to me.

            The handle was at the wrong angle and, because it was a drop-foot, the angle couldn't be changed. It was awkward to use, next thing to painful. In addition, the cord came off it sideways and seemed to be in the way nearly all the time. It didn't last me more than a year. When the smoke started coming out of it, I didn't let up. I pushed it. I hated that saw.

            I haven't looked at a Bosch tool since.

            Ron

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            IMERC | Aug 29, 2009 06:41pm | #32

            add that saw to the Bosch junker/clunker list...

            don't sell them short... the have some good stuff...

            and for the most part their CS is one of the better ones... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          13. splintergroupie | Aug 29, 2009 07:01pm | #34

            I have smallish hands. One of the reasons i bought Milwaukee drills back in the day was their smaller grip. Is the Milwaukee CS grip smaller than others, perchance? That'd be nice...I guess i need to get me to a tool store and try some on for size.

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            IMERC | Aug 29, 2009 07:04pm | #36

            I have big hands... XXL gloves fit tight...

            the Mil's fit well...

            and they are heavy... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          15. ronbudgell | Aug 29, 2009 11:13pm | #38

            splint

            You just have to try them on to see how they fit. The newer Milwaukee saws with the angle-adjustable handle aren't as heavy as the ones I have.

            Ron

          16. splintergroupie | Aug 30, 2009 03:51am | #40

            This thread is the first i'd heard of an angle-adjustable handle. I'm a careful shopper - usually - so i'll research first, then try some on before i buy. I'll probably check back with you guys before sending $$ away - no sense repeating this kind of mistake. I want my next one to be used to build my coffin.PS: Just read a thread where Dieselpig was praising the Makita hypoid, said it's the same weight as a sidewinder. Spoiled for choice, i am!

            Edited 8/29/2009 9:37 pm by splintergroupie

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            IMERC | Aug 30, 2009 04:58am | #41

            I gots that Milwaukee.. nice saw... cuts well...

            but still like the 35 yo ones better... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

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            Sphere | Aug 30, 2009 04:09pm | #42

            Nother vote for the Mil. sidewinder. I have the old , drop foot..maybe 25 yrs old , won't die. And I have the new tilt -lok . I set the tilt lok up for the Ez guide then swapped that for a left blade PC on the guide instead.

            And thats my next sidewinder recommended, the 743 or 734 which ever it is..light and an adjustable dust ejector and a decent saw.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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            "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt

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          19. splintergroupie | Aug 30, 2009 07:36pm | #43

            Thanks for that. I'm making notes and comparing weights and features. I think now i want a blade-brake, but i'm not sure if they're reliable or fussy over time. I have a MS whose blade-brake no longer works...inconvenient as hell. I'm going to call Bosch first on Monday before i buy, though i'm not expecting anything too wonderful.Ian had a 9" Makita i sent to Adam in NZ. That probably would have sliced through my slab without any problems, eh? <G>

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            Sphere | Aug 30, 2009 08:23pm | #44

            My next CS will have a brake, it's pretty handy if ya use an EZ, which I have a feeling I will be soon.  I also had most of them quit in short order, I thought it was just me.

            Glad to hear the shop plans are coming to fruition, I just tweaked up an old Stanley Bailey wood/metal plane I got last night for an early Bday present... If I keep getting planes, I'm gonna need a bigger hanger sooner than I think.

            Back to pickin and canning, it's crazy here. Strung up about 30  3' strings of beans to dry, and got that many more to go..what was I thinking?.  And now I just picked the first mature Jamaican chocolate pepper, and Fatali are right behind them..yikes.   26 quarts of sweet corn relish yesterday.

            See ya in the winter..LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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            "If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt

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          21. splintergroupie | Aug 30, 2009 08:55pm | #45

            My beans are bust here bec of the hoppers, but i harvested a couple grocery bags of them from the CG a couple days ago, blanched and froze them. All i have to harvest at the house this fall are potatoes, squash, and tomatoes...a few cabbages...hoppers got everything else. They're getting knocked back by cooler weather now...i may still be able to get a late crop of greens out of the HH. Man, the size and number of toads around the garden is awesome! They're sure keeping the slugs scared.Time to put the boots on and go dig some trenches for drain-line and for conduit for the sub-panel...

  11. migraine | Aug 25, 2009 11:04am | #16

    west marine should have syringes with a lond pointed plastic tip.

    closest one for you is Lodi

    100 Route 17 S
    Lodi, NJ
    07644-3820
    PHONE: 201-712-1111

    http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/34042/377%20710/0/syringe/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0?N=377

  12. TJK | Aug 26, 2009 01:11am | #19

    http://www.mcmaster.com

    They sell many different sizes of syringes, and all kinds of needles.

  13. alias | Aug 29, 2009 04:46am | #26

    Those monoject syringe are pretty decent , i've had three for the last five years . But in pinch i've gone to staples and get those printer ink refill kits and they have a decent syringe with a metal "needle " That works very well, versatile and sturdy. Not cheap , but there not a one shot wonder.

  14. Jgriff | Aug 30, 2009 01:02am | #39

    Be careful - research the issue first.

    In some states, simple possession of a syringe by non-medical personnel or by someone without a prescription (i.e., a diabetic person who requires regular insulin injections) is illegal!

    While you might not need a syringe with so fine a needle, I don't know how the law differentiates between them - or if it does differentiate between them to begin with.

    Speak with your neighborhood friendly cop or your neighborhood friendly lawyer (is there such a thing?). Maybe your pharmacist would be able to tell you.

     

    Griff

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