Just opened the lid on the tank at my new house. The tank is full. That’s not so good is it?
I mean there’s not even a toilet in the house.
Just opened the lid on the tank at my new house. The tank is full. That’s not so good is it?
I mean there’s not even a toilet in the house.
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There would have been a certain amount of water drained by the plumber during rough in and testing, but I don't think it would be enough to fill a tank. Any chance that a high water table or ground water runoff has been getting in?
Scott.
Always remember those first immortal words that Adam said to Eve, “You’d better stand back, I don’t know how big this thing’s going to get.”
We've had a lot of rain the last few weeks. But should it be in the tank? This why I'm asking. I don't know anything about them.
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
What is it full of? No plumbing hooked up at all?
Beat it to fit / Paint it to match
Water.
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
Gunner,
We always fill the tank, otherwise a heavy rain will pop them right up.
Plumbers do poop alot though.
KK
around here they fill them up to keep from floating and then throw a chicken in it to start the bacteria growing.my spelling is not bad, my keyboard is covered with dirt and I cant see the keys.
Chicken? Hmmm
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
Live chicken?
Do a dance & chant first?
We use dry dog food, man that stuff is a great septic starter.
“The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.” —Albert Einstein
<and then throw a chicken in it to start the bacteria growing>
Cool! Is that that Santeria cult thing?
Love to see new construction get "baptised" in your neck of the woods.
We just put a fir branch on top when it's topped out.
Forrest
I'll have to ask if they filled it on purpose. Last time I was out there it was empty, the drain from the house hadn't been connected. That's why I opened it up tonight the wife was bitching about mud getting in it from the ditch. Maybe after all this time they decided to fill it.
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
Edited 2/23/2008 7:20 pm ET by Gunner
2 part concrete tank? Most likely it is intentionally full. Or at least here it has to be to pass the county sanitarians tests. Pipe from house to tank is filled and pressure tested (inflatable plug is used to block that pipe from the tank so only the pipe is under pressure, test is usually done through a 2 way cleanout at the connection to the house plumbing ) , tank is then filled to the riser so as to test the seams on the tank. ( a plug is also used to block the outflow pipe for that test.) Here often the tank is filled to within a few inches of the outflow pipe before piping is even installed to insure it can't float out of the hole in the event of heavy rain.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I feel better now. Thanks guys.
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
What kind of tank is it anyway , just curious what they use there.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I don't have a clue. Probably the cheapest.
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
Yeah, it all comes back to me now... (said the blind man as he peed into the wind...)When we installed our tank the hoe operator had me immediately fill it with water. He said that he'd heard stories of hydraulic pressure burping unfilled tanks clear out of the ground. It makes sense when you think of a 1000 gallon balloon buried underground.I'd say your installer did a good job.Scott.Always remember those first immortal words that Adam said to Eve, “You’d better stand back, I don’t know how big this thing’s going to get.”
Same thing with ceement swimmin' pools when they're outta service. Gotta keep a bunch of water in there to keep them from floating in the ground water. One gets them replastered in the dry season.
I've never had anyone prefill a septic tank here in New England.
Is there high ground water? Could rain have filled it from the ditch and inlet?
Are you sure they installed the gaskets?
I'd check with your septic installer and plumber and find out what's going on.
Solar & Super-Insulated Healthy Homes
It should be easy to figure out if rainwater is leaking into thru the lids. Are there risers? Around here, risers are ~12" long pieces of large plastic pipe-lookin' stuff that have plastic manhole covers on them, at grade. The pipe sits on the top of the tank, and that joint should be well sealed with.... the stuff they use to seal it.
If it's not rainwater, I wouldn't worry about it. You probably have a ~1000 gallon tank and you and the wife will average 200 gallons per day, i.e. you will have it full in a week even if it started bone dry.
you and the wife will average 200 gallons per day
Actually, the typical American family of four uses 243 gallons per day.
Which I find astounding.
I use less than one gallon per day.
Riversong HouseWright
Design * * Build * * Renovate * * ConsultSolar & Super-Insulated Healthy Homes
Gallon a day? do you pee in the woods
Don't sweat it, and like Brownie says, go get a white chicken... speaking of things floating...I'm working at a house with a 10,000 gallon cistern that has surfaced twice... reverse submarining! Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy,
Winterlude by the telephone wire,
Winterlude, it's makin' me lazy,
Come on, sit by the logs in the fire.
The moonlight reflects from the window
Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand.
Come out tonight, ev'rything will be tight,
Winterlude, this dude thinks you're grand.
Thanks.
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
Gallon a day? do you pee in the woods
More or less.
I have a composting outhouse.
I have no indoor plumbing beyond a 5-gallon bucket gravity-feeding my kitchen sink (which I fill from rain water or melting snow on the woodstove), and a 55 gallon food-grade plastic barrel to store water pumped up from the stream (and through two filters).
When you have to work to get your water, it's amazing how frugal you'll be with it.
I use maybe a quart of water to wash dishes.
My "bath" is an outdoor wood-heated hot tub, but I refill that from the stream only a few times a year (add baking soda to keep it fresh).
Riversong HouseWright
Design * * Build * * Renovate * * ConsultSolar & Super-Insulated Healthy Homes
My "bath" is an outdoor wood-heated hot tub, but I refill that from the stream only a few times a year (add baking soda to keep it fresh).
6 month old bath water?
Staying WAY upwind, Joe H
The more time you spend in artificial environments and the more meat and other junk you eat, the more you stink. It has little to do with frequency of bathing.
I can wear the same clothes for a week before having to toss them in the laundry, and people often remark on how nice I smell (it's the woodsmoke, a natural disinfectant and deodorant).
In fact, there's growing evidence that our obsession with "cleanliness" is causing more childhood disease because we don't let them play in the dirt or get exposed to the pathogens which build immunity.
And there's growing evidence that drinking raw milk (instead of that sterilized stuff they sell in the stores) prevents or cures allergies.
Humans are meant to coexist with bacteria (we couldn't survive without them), and we're starting to realize what our war against them has cost us (more virulent and resistant pathogens, and "friendly" bugs like E-coli turning deadly).
I don't care how clean "you" think you are... Around here normal (for the rest of us) daily hygiene is a requirement. I'm not about to enter a debate about it. I hire all subs and that makes me the boss.
OK. warning or not , I've had enough of this.
Don't even try to think you are going to tell me you use 1 gallon of water and only shower once a frickin' week
And then try to tell me that you wear the same clothes for an entire week!
Look stinky, If no one else has told you, other than bringing up the fact of aroma, and how wonderful you smell, ( which I'm thinking was a polite way of not telling you are reeking), It would be unwise of you to start telling the entire world that bathing is wrong.
What is your agenda?
I live on more millions of gallons of water than you could ever think to possibly save, conserve, or even imagine. I really don't see your point in this. Every time it rains we get more water( or the same water back) - what do you think you are saving?Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
that like here, people say save water. I can put down a ten foot hand ayger and have more water to water the grass than I ever need..my spelling is not bad, my keyboard is covered with dirt and I cant see the keys.
Sorry if you can't wrap your mind around it, but I'm cleaner and healthier than anyone who showers everyday. I don't use soap, which only removes the natural protective oils from the skin and leads to all kinds of dermatalogical problems.
And apparently you're unaware that the greatest crisis facing humanity today, far greater than climate change (but connected to it) is a global shortage of fresh water.
Water shortages will leave world in dire straits http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-01-26-water-usat_x.htm
The Water Shortage Crisis in America & the World: A Quick Overview of One of the Most Dangerous Crises Humankind has Ever Facedhttp://tinyurl.com/ywfs6m
The Emerging Water Crisis and Its Implications for Global Food Security
http://www.worldhungeryear.org/why_speaks/ws_load.asp?file=13&style=ws_table
Water shortage 'a global problem'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4796909.stm
Global Water Shortage Looms In New Century
http://ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/awr/dec99/Feature2.htm
The Emerging Water Wars http://www.progress.org/2005/water27.htm
Forced water rationing one step closer to reality in Silicon Valley
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20070905/ai_n19499505
Drought on East Coast Raises Worries of Water Rationing
http://tinyurl.com/yovmqv
Athens Georgia Facing Water Rationing Soon?
http://www.topix.com/city/athens-ga/2007/10/athens-facing-water-rationing-soon/p2
wanna buy some?Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
Can you drink that water?
Edited 2/25/2008 4:01 pm ET by Riversong
Yep!Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
Funny, but that water body that you claim to be able to drink looks alot like Lake Erie, one of the most polluted bodies of water on earth. I seem to remember that one of its major tributaries, the Cuyahoga River, caught fire there were so many petrochemicals in it.
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That was a long time ago when Cleveland still had some industry left. Now the industry has left...
Cleveland's water actually tastes good and recently tested purer than some of the yuppie bottled stuff.
from Case Western Reserve University:
Study finds some bottled water has more bacteria and less fluoride than tap water
CLEVELAND -- People who buy bottled water for its perceived purity may not be getting what they're paying for. They're most likely not getting adequate fluoride either, according to researchers at Case Western Reserve University and Ohio State University.
In a study published in the March issue of the Archives of Family Medicine, a journal of the American Medical Association, researchers compared the bacterial content and fluoride levels of 57 samples of bottled water with tap water from each of Cleveland's four water treatment plants.
"Only three bottled waters ... had fluoride levels within the range recommended by the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency," according to James Lalumandier, a CWRU assistant professor of dentistry, and Leona W. Ayers of OSU's College of Medicine and Public Health. The other 54 bottles fell short of the recommended range of 0.80 to 1.30 milligrams of fluoride per liter.
All Cleveland tap water samples, however, were not only within the accepted range but also scored very near the optimal level of 1.00 milligrams per liter.
Bacterial counts in the four tap water samples varied only slightly, from 0.2 to 2.7 bacterial colonies per milliliter. In the bottled water, bacterial counts ranged from less than 0.01 to 4,900 colonies per milliliter. Six bottled waters had bacteria counts of 1,500 to 4,900 colonies per milliliter.
"One of the reasons people choose to drink bottled water instead of tap water is because of the perceived purity of bottled water," the researchers observe, and indeed, 39 samples of bottled water were found to be purer than the tap water. However, 15 samples of bottled water had significantly higher bacteria levels than the tap water. Of these 15, the bacteria counts were more than twice as high as the most contaminated tap water sample and almost 2,000 times higher than the purest tap water sample.
Technicians at the Ohio Department of Health Laboratories in Columbus tested the water samples, which the researchers coded by number to eliminate the potential for bias.
Despite the high bacteria levels in some of the bottled water, all the water tested is safe to drink under government standards, Lalumandier said. Still, he and Ayers conclude, "use of bottled water on the assumption of purity can be misguided."
For Lalumandier, who heads the Department of Community Dentistry at the dental school, the low fluoride content of most bottled water is a significant concern. The use of fluoridated water is a major factor in the prevention of tooth decay in children and adults, he notes. People who rely on bottled water may be at greater risk for tooth decay. According to a survey of 1,000 pediatric patients, 9 percent of the children used bottled water as their primary source of drinking water.
"Children should be considered for prescribed fluoride supplements if they drink bottled water," the researchers recommend. However, since a small percentage of bottled water contains adequate fluoride, children who drink such water should not get supplementary fluoride. That's because excessive ingestion of fluoride during childhood can cause fluorosis, a demineralization of the dental enamel that may result in discolored teeth.
Manufacturers are not required to include fluoride levels on their labels, but the researchers believe they should be. Currently, consumers must either get their water tested or contact the manufacturer for this information. The researchers attempted to contact all 57 manufacturers in their study, but were successful in reaching only 37.
The bottled water industry is one of the fastest-growing businesses in the United States, with annual sales of nearly four billion gallons, Lalumandier and Ayers said.
"Bottled water should be required to meet the same standards for fluoride levels and bacterial content as tap water, as it makes up a significant proportion of the water consumed by the public," they conclude.
-CWRU-
I remember when I was kid of about 7 or 9 we went to visit friends in Erie..went to the lake and you could walk on it..in June.
Well, at least the first 20-30 yards out..never could tell where the shore ended and the lake began..strange for kid that grew up in the 'burbs and Pocono Mtns.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
And I don't suppose you mean it was frozen.
More likely he was referring to an area along the lake front where the bottom slopes almost imperceptibly for quite a ways out from high water mark. Not at all unusual in some areas along Lake Erie. Not everything is about pollution, embedded energy and the human condition.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
No, it was tires, drums, sludge -like goo that had a crust on top
This was the Pa shore. No kidding, My Grandfather was incredulous at the condition.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
I grew up along the lake and saw and walked through the same stuff. It was the way it was. I remember soap suds floating on the surface , septics that drained directly into the lake and massive fish kills. No however it has changed since the humans along the shoreline and the surrounding areas have recognized what they had wrought. I also remember walking into the lake at east Point or Sand point where one could walk to a youngster miles out into the lake and the water level just slowly creeping up your legs.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Not everything is about pollution, embedded energy and the human condition.
Yup, everything is.
More likely he was referring to an area along the lake front where the bottom slopes almost imperceptibly for quite a ways out from high water mark.
But this DOES explain the miracle of the Red Sea parting for Moses. It has a very shallow gradient to the bed and a steady wind from a certain direction can theoretically create a land bridge. However, in either case, it's God's doing.
Riversong HouseWright
Design * * Build * * Renovate * * ConsultSolar & Super-Insulated Healthy Homes
Edited 2/26/2008 12:26 pm ET by Riversong
""Yup, everything is."" Well in that case lets here you discourse on the embedded energy used in having people travel thousands of miles across the country to learn what your school teaches, or how you can justify using computers and the internet given there tremendous embedded energy costs to manufacture and utilize. Or is that statement like the one about the cultures of Central and South America voluntarily returning to hunter gathering societies?
Or perhaps the one you made about people hiding behind names that weren't their real names. "" However, in either case, it's God's doing."" Only to those who believe it the existence of one that exists.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
""Yup, everything is.""
I was simply pointing out that my assumption - that he was talking about a lake so polluted you could walk on it - was correct, and that your assumption - that there was some other explanation - was incorrect.
Well in that case lets here you discourse on the embedded energy used in having people travel thousands of miles across the country to learn what your school teaches, or how you can justify using computers and the internet given there tremendous embedded energy costs to manufacture and utilize.
It's not "my" school, but I teach there only because I live within a few miles of it and the majority of my students come from the northeast. If some choose to travel long distances, that's their choice. I'm not going to stop teaching because some people make inconsistent decisions.
And computers and the internet have made it possible to access information, communicate with people, and even shop and work from home without travelling.
Or is that statement like the one about the cultures of Central and South America voluntarily returning to hunter gathering societies?
What would you like me to add to this, other than it's true? Read Beyond Civilization by Daniel Quinn.
Or perhaps the one you made about people hiding behind names that weren't their real names.
And your point is?
"" However, in either case, it's God's doing.""
Only to those who believe it the existence of one that exists.
Careful. God doesn't like it when you don't believe.
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I have an old saying that I used a lot back during the 4 years when I lived much like you do now. "God is Her heaven and I am in mine and all is right with the world when it stays that way"
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
"God is Her heaven and I am in mine and all is right with the world when it stays that way"
But if we try to pull one over on her, she just might show up...
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Ya, and she might just not give a damn either. So whats is your point? That I should suddenly start believing? If's are just that .
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
So whats is your point?
That I should suddenly start believing?
There was no "point" at all.
But those who live in God don't need belief or faith.
Belief is what we give to dogma or doctrine - what we're told is true, whether it's from the priests of religion or the priests of science.
Faith is what we have when we don't know but would like to.
And by God, I don't mean him or her, but the ground of all being, the quantum zero-point field, the primal matrix.
How does the 6 month old bathwater work out for the ladies?
Guessing he's single..........
Joe H
You've got to admit Riversong's method goes a long way toward discouraging over-populating.
"" I'm not going to stop teaching because some people make inconsistent decisions.And computers and the internet have made it possible to access information, communicate with people, and even shop and work from home without travelling."" I guess you can overlook the part about embedded energy and slave labor when it comes to your own inconsistent decisions. Computers for all there benefit in todays society use large amounts of embedded energy and slave labor .
BTW
How much embedded energy do you use up with your rock climbing hobby? Others observe and learn from both what we do and say. ""Read Beyond Civilization by Daniel Quinn."" I will try to locate it . Thanks for the referral , I enjoy that type of reading. One mans theory in a book does not a fact make however. Seems You don't like the biblical writings to have that force so why should anything else? ""Or perhaps the one you made about people hiding behind names that weren't their real names.And your point is?"" My point is that while you posted about reasons people should and shouldn't use their real names at this forum you yourself post here under an assumed life name unless I am completely wrong that.
But then you knew that already .
Oh , and faith is not necessarily a component of religion or belief in a higher power or a god, or an inner/outer spirit. Faith is simply a confident belief or trust. You are a very bright guy , well educated and knowledgeable in this field and probably a few other fields of endeavors. Never forget however that you to have your blind side and inconsistencies, and hypocrisies that others can and do see. Preach less, teach more, and be willing to admit to faults and lack of knowledge. You aren't ever gonna rise above being just another human being among billions of human beings. Being humble keeps one from being humiliated.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Thanks for the advice.
One mans theory in a book does not a fact make however.
Certainly not. But this book is a followup to his Ishmael, which won the Turner Tomorrow Fellowship award of half a million $ over 2500 other entries as the most visionary book of the last milennium.
If you haven't read an Quinn, I would recommend starting with Ishmael.
Indeed, I thought I recognized that authors name but couldn't immediately place it. Very good book , I enjoyed it as did my two children. I will look up the one you recommended and read it.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Right, it was summer.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
I am disengaging.
I am getting a little bit wiser in my passing years.
You have defined your self as one of the people who find themselves so unbelievably dynamic, and all knowing on every topic that actual facts and common sence get in the way of your posting information that may actually be thruthful or useful. Your penchant for posting bull sh!t on the internet to fill some need or to overcome some deficiency is not my problem. It would be appreciated if you wouldn't post to me in the future.
I've had enough. It didn't take much time for me to figure you out.Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
I am getting a little bit wiser in my passing years.
Apparently not.
I am disengaging.
It would be appreciated if you wouldn't post to me in the future.
This is called engaging, not disengaging.
If you don't want a response, you shouldn't toss your ill-aimed arrows.
Edited 2/26/2008 11:13 pm ET by Riversong
And apparently you're unaware that the greatest crisis facing humanity today, far greater than climate change (but connected to it) is a global shortage of fresh water.
We don't have a water shortage.......or a food shortage.......or an oil shortage...or a shortage of anything on this planet really. What we have, plain and simple, is an overpopulation problem. Mother Nature will remedy that situation, sooner or later.
While living in a medieval fashion might make you feel all smug and righteous about yourself, it doesn't and won't do diddly to remedy the real problem. At best it only delays the inevitable resolution/consequence.
Oh, and if you think that not bathing and eating dirt is the key to keeping you free from disease and in a healthier condition......check out the life expectancy in countries and ages past where people lived or still live like that. They didn't/don't have access to antibiotics to kill off all those "friendly" pathogens. It isn't working too well for them. You're only deluding yourself.
Yes, some limited exposure to pathogens is a good thing as regards the development of a viable immune sytem. No argument there. Having grown up on a farm, I had my hands in plenty of "stuff" I can assure you. But there are limits as to what your body can cope with.......no matter how "pioneer" you decide to live......and try to mentally persuade your body to "just cope with it". That's why pioneers died, just like the rest of us will.
Yes, we have overdone it and acted irresponsibly/stupidly by tossing antibiotics at every runny nose in society. But that doesn't mean that these pathogens which have evolved into super-bugs.........wouldn't have done so even if we'd used those antibiotics more responsibly. HIV didn't develop because jungle primates were using too many antibiotics or anti-viral prescriptions.
I have friends from Vienna who come to visit a couple times a year. Folks there don't bath frequently either.......and don't perceive that there's a problem as regards that. However, the odor is enough to knock ya down from 10' away when they arrive. First thing they get shuffled off to the shower (with soap), I take the clothes they're wearing & wash them. Now we can all sit in the same room together, visit and enjoy one another.......without breaking out the clothes pins. Try it. Ya might learn to like it and the people around you will appreciate it immensely. Evidently, more than you now realize.
We don't have a water shortage.......or a food shortage.......or an oil shortage...or a shortage of anything on this planet really. What we have, plain and simple, is an overpopulation problem. Mother Nature will remedy that situation, sooner or later.
...check out the life expectancy in countries and ages past where people lived or still live like that.
I couldn't agree more with your first statement - it looks like a "shortage" only from our perspective.
However, you're contradicting yourself. There's too many people, but we should do whatever we can to EXTEND our life expectancy? How do you think we got into this predicament in the first place?
And, by the way, while it's true that people living in the squalor and poverty of Medieval city-states had short and brutal lives, people living simply on the land often live healthy and active lives beyond 100 years.
It's not the "simple life" which is "nasty, brutal, and short" but the "civilized" life. Indigenous people started dying out when "civilized" people brought infectious diseases (sometimes deliberately).
However, you're contradicting yourself. There's too many people, but we should do whatever we can to EXTEND our life expectancy? How do you think we got into this predicament in the first place?
Sorry, but no contradiction that I see.
Where did I say that people should do this or that .....and by all means, try to live as long as possible? All I referred to was what is likely to prolong the odds of longer life and what simply doesn't work ....as borne out by history, medical science and autopsies.
You seem to be confusing increased life expectancy with overpopulation/excessive breeding habits. Two different things. Ask any 100 YO eunuch.
How did we get into this predicament? Many contributions to that. But it will eventually be reversed/resolved by one means; more deaths than births....until a point of balance/survivability is once again established. Could happen very slowly or it could come with one big kaboom.....if ya know what I mean.
Seen this yet? Please tell me (and yourself) how your bathing just once a week, proudly using an average of just one gallon a day... has any real signifigance in the grand scheme of things? Kinda reminds me of the old........Eat all your vegetables, Johnny...there are kids starving in China, ya know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ
Please tell me how your bathing just once a week, proudly using an average of just one gallon a day... has any real signifigance in the grand scheme of things?
That you even need to ask suggest that no amount of explanation is going to matter.
But it's all about living lightly on the Earth, not using (too much) more than my fair share, leaving a little for others (both human and not).
>"my fair share"
Guess you've figured out your comfort level.
And I've figured out mine.
Yours doesn't supercede mine so the sermon should end.
I respect your desire to be a fanatic about your cause. Just don't try to put your **** on me.
JRemodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
Only sounds like a sermon to those who feel guilty.
[feel free not to respond, since you're so concerned about "pissing on someone else's thread]
------0 !Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
Did you just call him a Gecko?
A Rhino?
An Ovalo?
A Mako?
A pinko?
A kinko?
A ginko?
Oh no..not a Jacko?
A stinko?
A beano?
A Bucko?
A dado?
A dil...nah
A Harpo?
A chico?
A Rico?
A tweako?
A freako?
A wopbopa bulop badda badda bim bam o?
Just wunnering.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
I just coined a new internet phrase for something that slips across the keybard and ends up at ZERO.
Good list but nothin' fits.
Only thing that fits is keystrokes that end with zero.
JRemodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
I forgot to add that you owe Gunner a HUGE appology for coming in here and pis$ing all over his thread, If you feel the need to pontificate it would be best if you actually started your own thread.
People who just sit around, waiting for a real thread to start up so that they can jump onto it and put their own spin on it kinda suck. I guess I owe Gunner an appology too, because you sucked me in with your tripe.Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
That you even need to ask suggest that no amount of explanation is going to matter.
Didn't watch the video yet, eh?
Perhaps I should have said.........After you watch the video......please tell me how your bathing just once a week (and using one gallon a day).....has any real signifigance in the grand scheme of things.
The better full version (17 minutes) is here - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5871651411393887069
I sincerely hope you will.
you talkin to me!
watch it now bud....people are listinin. stinky
Snork!Wassup neighbor?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
I am back at the grunt work again..took a little time off. Howa you doin? I have been peeking around b-time..not much posting but doing a little snoopin. Think I see your new ride on I-75. be careful the speed limit seems to be increasing. stinky
No lie..its running with the gazelles at 85..or faster I don't know..my speedometer stops at 85.
Staying busy here too...more work in Boonesboro, prolly drive right past your house.I'll have to get ya in my new cell phone, I did just stumble across your # as I was moveing some papers around..So I got ya on paper at least.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
Actually what he's saying is true from what I've heard. Not that I'm interested in doing it.
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
i live in upstate NY and i have installed 5 or 6 in my life and have always put h2o in them. I want the solids to break up and to have an empty tank doesn't work that well.
Couldn't help but think how one of my clients who want to 'go green' would react to the description of the really low environmental impact that you described.
Whoa, Nelly! They would probably sputter for hours at the thought of having to put that much "work" into their bu$y lives. I have had these fine folks say, "We want to be sensitive to the environment but we have a lifestyle to maintain". I usually find a reasonable compromise for their concerns.
Goes to that paradigm shift you alluded to a while back.
You mentioned using a 55gal barrel as a water storage device. I would offer that my place still has a hand dug, field stone lined cistern, about 14'0" deep and 4'0"dia, that still has the downspouts connected to it. Don't know the specific age but having vitrified clay (no bells) drain tiles to it somewhere around 100+- years(?). In my 20years here it has never dried out or appeared to.
caio, ted
Only a gallon of water a day? You don't shower much and only flush the WC once a day? That's low impact living at its finest.
Gallon a day? do you pee in the woods
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Edited 2/25/2008 4:24 pm ET by Riversong
I'm with curly. What's the deal? You live in a tank in the desert or something?
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
I use less than one gallon per day.
Work alone, do ya?
Staying upwind, Joe H
As has already been pointed out, the tank may have been filled for testing or to keep it from floating (if there is a high water table).
If, on the other hand, it has filled because it is leaking, that problem needs to be addressed. It is very possible to hydraulically overload a drainfield via a septic tank that takes on extra water. I've also seen leaky tanks take on enough groundwater to raise the grease/scum layer in the tank over the tee's and cause clogging. The tank needs to be as water-tight as possible.
I'm gonna have to ask I guess. The answers here have at least shown me that I don't want to call the guy a goof if he says he did it on purpose.
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
There you go. Floating's a real concern here, but I've never seen one filled. Just fully buried before it rains. Can't imagine a leak that would fill it, but I guess anything's possible.
Knew a guy who wanted to watch the action in his new system. Was looking up the pipe, yelled for his wife to flush. What he didn't know was, she'd taken a dump. PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
Man that's a visual I didn't need right after lunch. LOL
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
If, on the other hand, it has filled because it is leaking, that problem needs to be addressed.
Agreed.
That's why, here in VT at least, split tanks are no longer allowed. Must be one piece with gasketted lid and tightly-fitted risers with gasketted covers.
Riversong HouseWright
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One piece tanks with a lid are definitely better. They are getting somewhat easier to find in VA, but there is still some resistance--manufacturers would have to buy new forms.
Sorry for getting sucked into a hijack of your thread. And taking up valuable bandwidth on a subject that you were interested in an answer to.
Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
Yea. Like that's never happened before. LOL
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
I've seen a concrete in-ground pool that popped up about two feet. It broke off all the pipe going into it. They had to jackhammer holes in it and pump concrete behind it and fix all the connections.
The soil was expansive soil and the pool was empty.
That would suck. I would have never thought of that happening but it makes sense now.
Pop, lock, and drop it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIdFwQwoYM&feature=related
Edited 2/26/2008 3:45 pm ET by Gunner
Where I grew up , thay had to use SCUBA gear and finish of the botom of our pool under water with epoxy mortar because if thay finished the bottom without water in it , it would have made like a boat, and became an "above ground".Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City