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The gallery.

| Posted in General Discussion on April 20, 2001 06:15am

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Do you have a project in process right now ? Take some pictures.

Have pictures of some project you were a part of ? Ice rink, house, swimming pool, deck, patio… Anything at all.

Did you build a dog house, birdhouse, cabinet, mantelpiece, butcher block ?

Did you do an exceptional job in a remodel ?

Did you fix the wiring, plumbing, roof leak, etc, problem from hell ? And durn well, if you do say so yourself…

Did you find an ingenious way to solve a problem ? Line a fish pond with construction poly. Use a tree for a post.

Did you build your own masonry fireplace ?

Did you build the best toolbox, rolling toolbox, portable tablesaw table extender, etc ?

Please take pictures and post them here. We all want to see.

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  1. Mike_Maines_ | Feb 26, 2001 07:38am | #1

    *
    Here's a small kitchen I did on Nantucket, MA last year. We remodeled the whole house, this was the guest house kitchen. Built on site. It's all I have on the computer.

    1. Mike_Maines_ | Feb 26, 2001 07:43am | #2

      *Another shot--we later cut a sink into the corner. Really tight space, you should have seen the old kitchen, cdx held together with mold I think. When I get the pictures back from the main house I'll put 'em up.Mike

      1. Greg_Brown | Feb 26, 2001 07:47am | #3

        *here is part of a kitchen I did quite a while ago-this wine rack is still one of my favs-

        1. Allyson_Stiles | Feb 26, 2001 07:54am | #4

          *Here's a new house we did a couple of years ago.

          1. Allyson_Stiles | Feb 26, 2001 07:55am | #5

            *And another.

          2. Allyson_Stiles | Feb 26, 2001 07:58am | #6

            *Oops! Might help if I add the picture. Here it is.

          3. Allyson_Stiles | Feb 26, 2001 08:02am | #7

            *And one more. I've beeen lazy about taking pictures lately, but this is good motivation to start clicking away. In fact I'll be taking some tomorrow. Plus I'll have to go through my pics to see what I've got and don't got anymore.

          4. Allyson_Stiles | Feb 26, 2001 08:17am | #8

            *Here's one I just found from a couple of years ago. It's a basement that we converted to a finished basement. My son (pictured with screwgun) is about 2 years old in this picture. Thought you might get a kick out of it.

          5. Greg_Brown | Feb 26, 2001 08:24am | #9

            *here is a kitchen I did last year

          6. Greg_Brown | Feb 26, 2001 08:29am | #10

            *more of the last one- I milled all the molding on this- made the wood trim kit for the microwave too

          7. Allyson_Stiles | Feb 26, 2001 08:32am | #11

            *Nice Kitchen Greg, are those Corian counters? Billy

          8. Greg_Brown | Feb 26, 2001 08:35am | #12

            *Billy,no, those are granitethanks, by the way!some nice houses you've built, too!gb

          9. Alan_Kim | Feb 26, 2001 05:47pm | #13

            *I would love to see some examples of an addition to a hip roofed house.In particular, extending out from an existing roof at an odd angle such as 45 degrees.We presently have an L shaped house with the short side of the L being a carport.Would like to enclose the carport and add a two-story wing from there, sortof forming a "J".Bring on them pictures !(But please keep the files sizes at around 100K....400 - 500 is getting a little excessive.)Thanks,Alan

          10. gary_weiss | Feb 27, 2001 01:26am | #14

            *greg,GREAT kitchen!!! Are the cabinets maple?? Floor??Gary

          11. Greg_Brown | Feb 27, 2001 02:04am | #15

            *thanks, Gary- yes the cabinets & floor are maple- the floor being a prefinished laminated engineered product(don't know brand name)I was really happy with the way this one turned out. something kinda neat about this one-there was a space left open behind the appliance garage & the stove to allow for whatever placement of the garage we ended up with. Instead of just utilizing the area directly behind the garage, I had the granite guys float their splash over the opening behind the stove creating a 3" deep cavity accessable thru the garage. Ibuilt a 34" long drawer, put it on a pair of 30" full extention slides, all kinds of hidden storage! here are a few more of that one...gb

          12. Novy_7 | Feb 27, 2001 02:06am | #16

            *Ron, I can't open your pics what program are you using ?

          13. Ian.D.Gilham. | Feb 27, 2001 02:16am | #17

            *Andy,I second Luka -- we need a Gallery. They've got one at Knots -- unfair,

          14. Greg_Brown | Feb 27, 2001 02:26am | #18

            *here are some ceilings I've done-the one with the octagons was a residence, the box beam(3/4 oak ply spline mitered) one in a Sizzler Resturant

          15. kkearney | Feb 27, 2001 02:36am | #19

            *Nice stuff guys, keep 'em coming.Here is a restoration that was fun.

          16. Jay_Zog | Feb 27, 2001 02:46am | #20

            *carrage house dooers - homemade and hung.

          17. Ron_Budgell | Feb 27, 2001 02:48am | #21

            *I managed to open them - they started up Quicktime instead of opening in a new window and then crashed Netscape. Something wrong. I'll delete them and try again later on. No more time, now. Ron

          18. Pro-Dek | Feb 27, 2001 03:07am | #22

            *Here's a plastic deck I just finished.

          19. Luka_ | Feb 27, 2001 03:20am | #23

            *ROFLMVFAONice house there, KK.Are we going to get to see the 'before' pictures too ?b : )

          20. Pro-Dek | Feb 27, 2001 03:30am | #24

            *Thanks Luka-I finally figured out how to post a picture-this is a Trex deck I'm building now.

          21. gary_weiss | Feb 27, 2001 03:38am | #25

            *Greg,Can't go wrong with maple. Used it on for all my kitchen cabinets. Now you client has that brand new kitchen, if they would just change that refrigerator!!Gary

          22. Luka_ | Feb 27, 2001 03:38am | #26

            *No problem, Pro. Always glad to help. (Excelent decks !!)Anyone else has a problem, just email me. I'll do whatever I can.Keep the pics coming, guys. Make this fat old dood happy living vicariously through all of youse.

          23. Greg_Brown | Feb 27, 2001 03:57am | #27

            *gary- that cabinet is set up for a builtin Kitchenaid-they just couldn't afford it after paying ME!;] If you look close you can see an additional frame around the refer.thanks again. here are a few more ceilings- I was on this house 6 months before having to do these box beams- every time I'd walk thru the room I'd look up at where that joint would be & wonder how the hell was I gonna do that?...

          24. Luka_ | Feb 27, 2001 03:58am | #28

            *Funny, that's exactly what I was thinking.Most refridgerator doors can be covered with laminate countertop material. Some are even made so that all you have to do is remove a frame, lay in the plastic, and put the frame back on.Failing that. I bet they could get those doors painted really cheaply at an auto repair shop.

          25. Mike_Willms | Feb 27, 2001 04:26am | #29

            *Nice work Greg!

          26. Greg_Brown | Feb 27, 2001 04:33am | #30

            *Luka, I did this kitchen a little over a year ago, I wouldn't be surprised if they have a KitchenAid by now. the existing refer wasn't set up for appliance panals, if it was I'dve talked them into at least 1/4" maple ply...gbI'd like to see some of the goodies you've done, Luka...check out this granite- it was on a differentjob of mine- the installer mitered the front edge so the pattern of the rocks would carry around the edge making it look like a solid chunk

          27. Greg_Brown | Feb 27, 2001 04:36am | #31

            *thanks Mike.gb

          28. Ralph_Wicklund | Feb 27, 2001 04:53am | #32

            *OK, Fat Dood, here's some more.Before shots - just a 12x13 bedroom with a 2x6 closet.

          29. Frank_"Mad_Dog"_Maglin | Feb 27, 2001 04:54am | #33

            *Here's a kitchen I built last month. It's all frameless const except for the open wall cabinets. The carcases are 3/4" melamine and the wood is #1 common brown hard maple.

          30. Ralph_Wicklund | Feb 27, 2001 04:57am | #34

            *After - new master bath with original doorway blocked off for wrap-around vanity and new door cut to master bedroom (not visible in these pics)

          31. Frank_"Mad_Dog"_Maglin | Feb 27, 2001 04:58am | #35

            *Here's a kitchen I built last month. It's all frameless const except for the open wall cabinets. The carcases are 3/4" melamine and the wood is #1 common brown hard maple.

          32. Ralph_Wicklund | Feb 27, 2001 04:58am | #36

            *After pic #2

          33. Frank_"Mad_Dog"_Maglin | Feb 27, 2001 05:06am | #37

            *Here is another view.

          34. Mike_Smith | Feb 27, 2001 05:16am | #38

            *ralph.. you're a sly fox.... nice stuff...

          35. brisketbean_ | Feb 27, 2001 05:16am | #39

            *Here is a brickdomed ceiling, I finally got a lense that I could frame it with.

          36. Joseph_Fusco | Feb 27, 2001 05:20am | #40

            *Frank & et al,

            Here's one I'm just finishing up. I didn't forget about the display cases, just haven't had the time. . .

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          37. Greg_Brown | Feb 27, 2001 05:20am | #41

            *brisketbean- beautiful-gb

          38. Luka_ | Feb 27, 2001 05:29am | #42

            *Greg,I hope you don't think I was being critical. I think your work is extraordinary. I was just trying to be helpful. Sometimes it is an advantage when you can actualy see the difference in a picture, and not just in your head.Due to mental and physical problems, the last time I did anything significant was almost a decade ago. I have been building back toward a dream of having a workshop and making furniture, small cabinets, etc. It is a long slow battle. Luckily, every step that I take seems to be exponentially better than the last, but I am still a long way away. I have built my own cabin out of scraps, pallets, and miscellaneous trash. Of course, it looks like trash. Hardly something to put in a gallery. I know I laughed, but the picture that KK posted looks like the taj mahal compared to my home. One day, maybe, but for now, I have to live vicariously through these pics.How is that countertop made ? Epoxy resin and rocks ?

          39. Luka_ | Feb 27, 2001 05:43am | #43

            *What Greg said. Beetootifull.Please tell me those are just face bricks and not the whole thing...If they are full bricks, I am going to have to change my underwear...

          40. Ralph_Wicklund | Feb 27, 2001 06:06am | #44

            *Whoa!!! I'm stealin' that. Of course, the picture will have a small "bb" at the bottom for the credits.

          41. Greg_Brown | Feb 27, 2001 06:07am | #45

            *hey Luka- brotherman- absolutely no offence was taken-even if you were being critical I am even keeled enough to take it constructively.sorry to hear you have obstacles you are having to deal with. I'm sure you've heard this too many times, but sincerely, if I can help somehow just ask. If I can I will. If ever you wanna spend some time in the smog & check out the bikini babes of so. cal-you can tinker around in my shop...that counter was actual granite- I've never seen any like it either-don't think I'd put it in my house, but it is interesting.here is a piece that is my all time fav- there is some magic in this chunk of wood. When I was in high school I was given a 2' chunk of a branch of what I was told was ebony-seems like it has too much color for that- I've been carting this around for 20 years not knowing what to do with it & afraid of wasting it. well this took up 1/2 of my branch, it was a christmas gift to moms year before last. "Spinning Tree"Luka- thanks for the compliment, by the waygb

          42. James_DuHamel | Feb 27, 2001 06:12am | #46

            *Very nice (as always) Bean.You are definitely the Master of creative ceilings.James

          43. James_DuHamel | Feb 27, 2001 06:14am | #47

            *Excellent work once again Frank and Joe. Joe - what material is the countertop? James

          44. James_DuHamel | Feb 27, 2001 06:20am | #48

            *Here's a handicap accessible shower I did a month or so ago (cultured marble). It is in a mobile home, so it had to be custom sized to fit the space. It measures 5' long, and 4' deep. James

          45. James_DuHamel | Feb 27, 2001 06:26am | #49

            *Here's a custom walk in shower I did. It is cultured marble also. The client wanted green trim on outside (cultured marble also). James

          46. Mike_Smith | Feb 27, 2001 06:27am | #50

            *james .. i gotta design a roll-in shower... i'm thinking 3 deep x 4 wide.... any caveats ?joe ... nice work.. bb.. now that is a lens... what size is it?... i'm guessing 17mm?what you got ?..i remember that ceiling from a year ago.. but you're right , that lens does it justice ....

          47. Joel_Greer | Feb 27, 2001 06:29am | #51

            *BB, real nice! How about the rest of the place?

          48. Luka_ | Feb 27, 2001 06:34am | #52

            *Woof. Hate those colors.Love that shower.

          49. Joel_Greer | Feb 27, 2001 06:40am | #53

            *Wow Greg, that is sure some bold granite! Anything would look good in that fine kitchen of yours, so no worries.

          50. nathan_wegemer | Feb 27, 2001 06:48am | #54

            *a recent deck

          51. nathan_wegemer | Feb 27, 2001 06:56am | #55

            *and...

          52. nathan_wegemer | Feb 27, 2001 07:02am | #56

            *and,

          53. Pro-Dek | Feb 27, 2001 07:15am | #57

            *Nathan Wegemer-I have to ask,why would you double post and through bolt your beam run,instead of single posts with the beam on top?

          54. Luka_ | Feb 27, 2001 07:20am | #58

            *Nathan, I can't see your second 2 pics.

          55. Pro-Dek | Feb 27, 2001 07:56am | #59

            *My little kitchen remodel.

          56. Pro-Dek | Feb 27, 2001 07:57am | #60

            *My little kitchen #2

          57. Francis_Voignier | Feb 27, 2001 08:05am | #61

            *Nathan, the picture of your deck is leaving me perplexed. Can you show it from different angles?Guys, I think I'm gonna go buy me a scanner!fv

          58. Luka_ | Feb 27, 2001 08:14am | #62

            *Wow !!I was gunna ask when you were going to come over here and build me a deck, but screw the deck, come on over and build me a kitchen. LOLI like a lot of light. (Just kidding about the deck and kitchen. I am getting along just fine. LOL)

          59. nathan_wegemer | Feb 27, 2001 08:48am | #63

            *you'd have to ask the architect, pro deckmaybe he wanted some bolts, but didn't want a piece of hardware...another angle

          60. nathan_wegemer | Feb 27, 2001 08:49am | #64

            *dittops- wow. nice work everyone. pro deck, your kitchen made me realize I shouldn't dismiss kitchen remodels. Next chance I have to do one, I'm going to pursue it.

          61. Pro-Dek | Feb 27, 2001 09:14am | #65

            *New gate-Home of Pro-Dek

          62. Joseph_Fusco | Feb 27, 2001 02:03pm | #66

            *Hello James,

            Nice to see you around once again. . . Great post over in the shed by the way.The counter-tops are granite

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          63. Mike_Smith | Feb 27, 2001 02:51pm | #67

            *Pro...nice gate... you got your own zip code ?

          64. Frank_"Mad_Dog"_Maglin | Feb 27, 2001 03:03pm | #68

            *Really nice work Joe. What kind of wood is that?

          65. brisketbean_ | Feb 27, 2001 04:30pm | #69

            *Here is a kitchen we did on a vcustom house i ran all of the finish work on.

          66. Pro-Dek | Feb 27, 2001 05:53pm | #70

            *Mike,LOL, no , that's just an address.

          67. Pro-Dek | Feb 27, 2001 05:55pm | #71

            *Brisketbean,Huge kitchen,very pretty,who gets to clean all the grout?

          68. doug_hubbard | Feb 27, 2001 09:56pm | #72

            *Luka! Excellent idea times three...see if I can do this-this might be a picture of a deck I built...

          69. doug_hubbard | Feb 27, 2001 10:00pm | #73

            *Okay- good so far. I'm the fat guy on the right. That's my beautiful wife and her Dad to the left.These people seem familiar-Marybeth and yours trulynext

          70. doug_hubbard | Feb 27, 2001 10:04pm | #74

            *Otis and a detail of the railing morticed into the newel

          71. allen_schell | Feb 28, 2001 12:34am | #75

            *Here's a jig for cutting upeasings, simply square one end, flip it over and hold it to the degree of your stairs and voila! You can cut a bushel of em in minutes.

          72. Matt_G. | Feb 28, 2001 01:08am | #76

            *Pro:Tell us a bit about the curved rim joist...

          73. Luka_ | Feb 28, 2001 01:09am | #77

            *You're a bit younger than I thought, Allen. LOLI hope we get more of these jigs. I am a jig and homemade tool fanatic.

          74. Joseph_Fusco | Feb 28, 2001 02:03am | #78

            *Frank,

            The cabinets are cherry in a Shaker flat panel style.

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          75. Novy_7 | Feb 28, 2001 03:38am | #79

            *I was very curious about the curved rim joist as well

          76. Joel_Greer | Feb 28, 2001 03:52am | #80

            *BB if there's a bathroom somewhere near that kitchen, I could just move in there!Nice work!

          77. Pro-Dek | Feb 28, 2001 04:45am | #81

            *MattG & Novy7 -Curved rim joist-here is a couple of other shots that might help. I lay a board accross the joists and put a nail in it 1/2 the distance of my radius,hook my tape on the nail and mark the ends of my joists.Cut off ends, block between,back cut fascia so it will bend an block with treated shims where you fasten fascia.Hope this helps, Bob Simonson

          78. Pro-Dek | Feb 28, 2001 04:49am | #82

            *After you block between your radius cut blocks where necessary to achieve your 12"-16" on center spans for decking material.

          79. nathan_wegemer | Feb 28, 2001 05:10am | #83

            *ipe porch, added a patio door in the background to match the foreground, brick work in herringbone

          80. Pro-Dek | Feb 28, 2001 08:08am | #84

            *Doug-where do you get those metal rail sections and how much do they cost?

          81. Pro-Dek | Feb 28, 2001 08:11am | #85

            *Here's an arbor to shade the southern exposure.

          82. Pro-Dek | Feb 28, 2001 08:12am | #86

            *This is how the Arbor picture frames the view.

          83. doug_hubbard | Feb 28, 2001 02:44pm | #87

            *ProDeck-Those are aluminum railings from Delguard. I bought them thru a local fencing company. The cost is around eighty bucks per six foot section. They have gates available- two hundred and seventy five dollars per three footer- includes all hardware. Lifetime warranty on the finish- three colors- black, green, and white.The rails were quite strong when assembly was complete. However, I was able to rack them enough to run them down the stairs.one more picturenice craftsmanship on your work by the way...

          84. Mike_Smith | Feb 28, 2001 03:04pm | #88

            *hub.. i like it .. got a link for Delguard ?come on.. don't bogart that rail, my friend ....

          85. Greg_Brown | Feb 28, 2001 04:58pm | #89

            *here's a desk I did 15 yrs ago-1st project I did after chopping my hand up...now if I could just remember where I put that brad gun...

          86. Greg_Brown | Feb 28, 2001 05:03pm | #90

            *did all the finish on this house-inside & out

          87. Pro-Dek | Feb 28, 2001 05:11pm | #91

            *Greg-Wow-never seen a chimney on top of a little roof like that before,and ya better watch out,that white cat looks like he's headin straight for the top of that new desk.

          88. pat_white | Feb 28, 2001 05:20pm | #92

            *Here is a current project . A vacation home for a client.

          89. Greg_Brown | Feb 28, 2001 05:52pm | #93

            *Pro- yeah, that white cat got up on that desk & knocked over that rock in the left corner & put a nice little dinkin that new desk-as if I didn't have enough lacquer on that desktop already-it was spraying that top I learned you don't spray lacquer in direct sunlight-took 17 coats to fill in all the little blisters the bubbles left...don't remember what the deal was with that chimney

          90. Sami_Kader | Feb 28, 2001 06:17pm | #94

            *This aint as pretty as some of those kitchen and deck pics, but here is a shot of the rough frame for the house I am building (trusses coming this weekend).The work you all are doing is inspiring.sami

          91. Sami_Kader | Feb 28, 2001 06:18pm | #95

            *A shot of the shop after rolling the trusses.

          92. Sami_Kader | Feb 28, 2001 06:23pm | #96

            *okay, before I get a big lecture from someone on truss bracing during installation, I have braces running into the building attaching to my catwalk at both gable trusses holding them plumb and making everything pretty dang stable. I sheathed it the next day. BTW, that's not me in the pic (if anyone cares) it is a friend of mine. Sami

          93. Pro-Dek | Feb 28, 2001 06:31pm | #97

            *Nice work Sami-you have to build the house before we can build the deck.My buddie is building this for one of the Seahawks.Do you think there will be enough room for two of them?

          94. Pro-Dek | Feb 28, 2001 06:32pm | #98

            *Nope-not enough room,"change Order"had to have a weight room added to the back.

          95. blue_eyed_devil_ | Feb 28, 2001 07:32pm | #99

            *I like this deck Pro Dek. The plastic one was nice too. I didn't like the first one that you posted and was glad to see that you were following an architects plans. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.I would like to comment/question on your framing techniques. One of your pictures (http://webx.taunton.com/WebX?233@@.eef9fe7/92!enclosure=.eefb3ce) shows the joist cantilevered out several feet, then lapped against an adjoining joist that is supported on both ends. I cannot see any reason for the cantilever, but can think of one reason that you shouldn't.Joist are deflected when you walk on them. The portion that is cantilevered tend to act like a see-saw. They push upwards and eventually will begin to work the fasteners out on the area that it is pushing up against. I limit my joist overhang to a few inches. I realize that many in here always equate more as being better, but this is one technique that scuttles that all-too-encompassing idea.Additionally, I would prefer to see those "drops" used as blocking to further my enviormental movement.Please, set me straight if there is some reason that the cantilevered joist was necessary. I realize that one picture does not always tell the whole story.Keep them pics coming. I'm enjoying the ones that show framing even if I am prone to nitpicking. I'd also like to see some sales and profit numbers posted (even if you eventually delete them). If I wasn't just sitting on my duff (flu), I'd be posting something myself.blue

          96. blue_eyed_devil_ | Feb 28, 2001 07:45pm | #100

            *Pat, is that a 15/12 roof?blue

          97. Luka_ | Feb 28, 2001 08:47pm | #101

            *Sami,Good work.These are bread and butter works. I for one appreciate seeing them. It is my hope that even beginners and DIY's will post their stuff here. For two reasons. 1) The very pretty , expensive, and/or complicated work shown by some is just what you think of when you think of a gallery. I love to look at them too. I like the inspiration it gives me and others. But the majority of people don't do work in that bracket. 2) If someone has made even a simple Dogj Mahal, (hey Duggy), especialy if it is among their first experiences, that, to me is just as inspiring, and besides it gives many others here a feeling that they too can do something. That it doesn't have to be gilded faucets or else its crap. What the weekend warrior DIY puts his blood sweat and tears into, in his garage, has as much ooooh and aaaaah appeal to me as that 3 million dollar home with the built in bowling alley. What he has worked along with his child to make, the bird house with the roof that doesn't quite cover the house on one side, etc, is even more beautiful than the rest. I hope to see much more work of this type. I also want to go on seeing those beautiful cabinets, decks, houses, et al that have already been posted. Show me some landscaping too, guys. Basicaly, I would like to see works for all skill levels and all facets of life.But then, that's just me. I enjoy the parrots and peacocks, but I enjoy the sparrows just as much...(Uhum, that was not meant to say that your work was not peacock quality. LOL I can see excelent craftsmanship, attention to detail, and concern for quailty in your work. Like I said, good job.)b : )

          98. splintergroupie_ | Feb 28, 2001 08:59pm | #102

            *Not even a starter-castle...More like a starter-country...

          99. allen_schell | Feb 28, 2001 09:38pm | #103

            *Heres an all white stairs I just finished, I didn't think I'd like it at first but after it was all done it looked better than I thought.

          100. allen_schell | Feb 28, 2001 09:42pm | #104

            *the balcony shot....

          101. blue_eyed_devil_ | Feb 28, 2001 09:46pm | #105

            *I like those white stairs and rails Allen. That appeals to me.blue

          102. pat_white | Feb 28, 2001 10:04pm | #106

            *Blue, It's a 14/12 scissor set up. Hardi staggered edge shingle.

          103. doug_hubbard | Feb 28, 2001 10:19pm | #107

            *Mike-glad you like it. try http://www.delairgroup.com.rhode island fences inc has got to be close to you"see rhode island"- two dollars cab fair and a cup of coffee...it's a small state- heard the governor just had it carpeted...(blatant rip-off of the movie Arthur- but I'm not above that.)

          104. Mike_Smith | Feb 28, 2001 10:32pm | #108

            *yup.. that did it.. thanks doug.. i know diamond fence ...listed as a local dealer..http://www.delairgroup.com./cgi-bin/delair_db/db.cgi

          105. doug_hubbard | Feb 28, 2001 10:41pm | #109

            *Here is a picture of some of my house. Still in progress- bar tops to the left flank the kitchen and are made of recycled bowling alley as is the table in the right foreground. Everything you are seeing was seperate rooms with flat ceilings. Anything in the picture that is wood I made- some of the iron stuff too...

          106. doug_hubbard | Feb 28, 2001 11:12pm | #110

            *nice looking balcony alan. Actually I'd like to echo a previous post now that I have had time to look at all the pictures- very impressive and inspiring everyone... makes me want to go back to work- it's what we live for-

          107. splintergroupie_ | Feb 28, 2001 11:40pm | #111

            *I moved a house last year. This is where it was stored when i found it.

          108. splintergroupie_ | Feb 28, 2001 11:41pm | #112

            *The view isn't too bad...

          109. splintergroupie_ | Feb 28, 2001 11:43pm | #113

            *Moving it on to wood foundation...

          110. splintergroupie_ | Feb 28, 2001 11:47pm | #114

            *I reframed where the addition had been cut off, stripped three layers of shingles (i counted twenty fasteners per square foot) and reroofed last spring, gutted the interior and sided the foundation with Hardipanel. Now i'm waiting for spring to start working on it again--i'm putting this house i'm in now on the market soon, so that's incentive...

          111. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 01, 2001 12:54am | #115

            *Interesting project Splinty. I'm impressed. Wanna share some numbers? I was thinking of moving mine off my lot, but decided against it. Now, I'd have to sneak it over my neighbor's lot and I'm sure he would love to catch me doing that!blue

          112. doug_hubbard | Mar 01, 2001 12:54am | #116

            *Ain't life grand Splint?Nice work- love the view...

          113. Stan_Foster | Mar 01, 2001 01:32am | #117

            *Heres a couple of curved stairs in my shop.

          114. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 01, 2001 01:35am | #118

            *Thats a beautiful set Stan. How bout some closeups and numbers?blue

          115. Stan_Foster | Mar 01, 2001 02:01am | #119

            *Thanks blue: These are the most recent stairs I have been working on. What kind of numbers are you refering to? Price or size?

          116. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 01, 2001 02:03am | #120

            *Price Stan. If I ever decide to go "inside", I'm going to hunt you down and learn how to do those stairs and rails.blue

          117. allen_schell | Mar 01, 2001 02:26am | #121

            *Stan,I couldn't help but notice your pretty good at that, have you ever considered doing that for a living? (hah hah) So your circle stairs are supported by the inside and outside stringers? That looks like a nice simplified approach, we have a system of inside rough carriages (strait), it seems like a lot of extra layout and labor. Do you shape your own rails and fittings? Lookin good! Allen Schell

          118. Greg_Brown | Mar 01, 2001 03:08am | #122

            *Stan,friggin sweeeet! I've been wanting to do one of those for so long- watched one being done about 12 yrs ago- do you use the rubber mold that has the profile of the rail, & then all the layers Tounge & Grooved? Beautiful work- looks like fun too!(the best kind)gb

          119. Ron_Budgell | Mar 01, 2001 03:23am | #123

            *I'm going to try a couple, now. The first is an addition we stuck on the back of a 150 year old house last fall. It's not complete in the picture. There's still a lot of dressing up to do, but it's the kind of thing we do a lot of. The original house was a 1 1/2 storey with studs 3 feet oc tenoned into plates top and bottom with diagonal bracing dovetailed into the corners. It was turned into a 2-storey (poorly) in the 60's or 70's, judging by the materials and techniques. The second picture is one of the best jobs I ever did.

          120. Darrell_Hambley_PE | Mar 01, 2001 03:34am | #124

            *Stan, The stairs are awesome. I've got a friend whose looking for a curved railing and ballusters very similar to what your pictures are like. We're near Seattle. Where are you?Darrell

          121. doug_hubbard | Mar 01, 2001 03:36am | #125

            *beautiful ron. one of a kind if i may say

          122. Luka_ | Mar 01, 2001 03:43am | #126

            *Really beautiful work, Ron.b : )

          123. Stan_Foster | Mar 01, 2001 03:49am | #127

            *Darrell/and others/ Thanks one and all for the comments. I just try to do a nice job. Darrell: I am near Champaign, Il. I do most of my stairs within a 50 mile radius. I completely build and trim them oun in my shop, then go out for a few days to fully install stairs and all balcony railing. 90% of my hours are in the shop. I mortise the treads and risers into the skirtboards, pocket screw the risers to the treads, pocketscrew the tread return to the treads. The risers pocket screwed to the treads and the mortising work, are very important to the structural integrity of my stairs. I do not need any inside stringers.By the way, I just started looking through the gallery tonight. There are some very nice pieces of work of varius kinds posted. Very interesting thread.

          124. splintergroupie_ | Mar 01, 2001 03:54am | #128

            *Blue,I bought the house for $17,500, including the move, which included all the utility companies coming along for the ride and the two counties' blessings. The house moved about 25 miles. It's 35x42, with a couple jogs, approx. 1450' each floor. The footing and slab were under $1300 for concrete and bar, plus $500 for foam.The wood foundation was under $1500, plus $400 for dimple fabric and another $100 for French drains.Well: $3000 (160')Pump package: $800 (Myers)Septic, inc. backhoe: $1600 (Gravel-less Leachbed Pipe)Electric to house: $3000Roof: $1200 (25 yr. glasphalt)The prices don't include labor except for the well and pump because i did the work or i traded labor with my neighbor. I'm replacing all windows and doors, electrical and plumbing, but i've traded for a lot of that or got it at auctions. (Kohler "steeper" tub costs about $1400--mine cost a $300 jewelry chest.) The house sits on four acres i split off my ten acre parcel, with virtually no loss in value to the original parcel so it was kind of like getting free land, but if i had to pay for it, it would have cost about $4-5K per acre for a parcel that size. Oh, and the survey was $700.I'll likely have $50K in it when i'm done, and i plan to sell in 2-3 years for approx $130K.

          125. Stan_Foster | Mar 01, 2001 04:02am | #129

            *I will post some more projects. Some of these are pictures of pictures, so the poor quality.

          126. Pro-Dek | Mar 01, 2001 04:14am | #130

            *Blue Eyed Devil-Canterlever-You can canterlever a 2x8 three feet providing 3 times that length or 9'is on the other side of that beam and fastened to something. The canterlever here is only about 2 feet. The first deck you don't like is not mine.I believe nathan did that one.

          127. Pro-Dek | Mar 01, 2001 04:15am | #131

            *Almost finished-just have to hook up the low voltage lights.

          128. Pro-Dek | Mar 01, 2001 04:17am | #132

            *Another view of a Trex Deck

          129. nathan_wegemer | Mar 01, 2001 04:36am | #133

            *octagon garden room, guest quarters, garage and library addition

          130. Pro-Dek | Mar 01, 2001 05:08am | #134

            *Stan you're the Man,Beautiful work!Do they call you Mr."Curve"for short? I would love to visit your shop when you build a set of these.

          131. Mike_Maines_ | Mar 01, 2001 05:48am | #135

            *ProDek,How did you bend those bench seats? I did something similar once for outdoor stairtreads with white oak, steam-bent and spaced with brass bushings...had a helluva time getting it to come out right.MM

          132. Stan_Foster | Mar 01, 2001 06:22am | #136

            *Pro-Deck: I just have a small business. Myself, my wife Barb, and a part timer. My shop is small, but has given me an enjoyable way of life.

          133. Pro-Dek | Mar 01, 2001 06:24am | #137

            *Mike Maines-I clamped the pieces to the bench supports and let them set that way overnight.As you can see in the picture this stuff breaks easily. I hope this helps. Bob Simonson

          134. brisketbean_ | Mar 01, 2001 07:07am | #138

            *Here is my best apprentice, he did the lettering himself when he was five.

          135. brisketbean_ | Mar 01, 2001 07:11am | #139

            *Here is one of a beamed ceiling, plywood beams, it was more work than the groined cieling in the same house.

          136. brisketbean_ | Mar 01, 2001 07:12am | #140

            *This the best image that I could get of the groined ceiling a lot of you have already seen.

          137. brisketbean_ | Mar 01, 2001 07:17am | #141

            *This is another beamed cieling, built up, about 8 or 9 members, mitres 142 degrees on maple, thank God and evolved tools for sliding compound mitre saws that are still about 8 degrees too short. It took some southern jimmyrigging to get the mitres.

          138. brisketbean_ | Mar 01, 2001 07:18am | #142

            *K Kearny; Where is the small house renovation located? South Carolina by chance?

          139. Pro-Dek | Mar 01, 2001 07:40am | #143

            *WOW! Brisketbean, bet you went home with a sore neck after that job was done.Looks great.

          140. Greg_Brown | Mar 01, 2001 08:03am | #144

            *bb- absolutely beautiful work- isn't it great we were blessed with the opportunity to build such fine things? gotta love it. here is a project ready to install- had to throw this in- more pics of this to come whenever the GC gets his act together

          141. Pro-Dek | Mar 01, 2001 08:24am | #145

            *Greg I couldn't help but notice you keep the fridge real close to your desk.Can you actually compete with the BIGDOG cabinet makers?That looks like alot of work.Nice job, Bob

          142. Greg_Brown | Mar 01, 2001 08:52am | #146

            *Bob, you gave me a smile, bud, that's not my desk, what I think you saw as my desk is the first pic, when my office is back in this corner(second pic)-but that fridge is stll plenty close enough! I don't try to compete- as long as I can stay busy, I'm fine,baby!

          143. Stan_Foster | Mar 01, 2001 01:21pm | #147

            *Allen: I failed to answer your question about bending my rails. If you look at the picture in post#154, you will see one being glued up on the stair nosings. I clamp jigs to each tread and then glue up the rail with seven laminates usually. Notice the poster card on the steps for the glue to drip on.

          144. Greg_Brown | Mar 01, 2001 03:09pm | #148

            *This house started out as a $700,000 remodel-it ended up at over $1,300,000 I was on this house acting as forman & doing sweet finish work for almost a year & a half. this was in Rolling Hills Estates where there is an "art jury"-they dictate what is permissable as far as how the exterior of your $7,000,000 house looks. It must be white (shutters can be brown)only split rail type fences- it was silly. the eves of this house had a 3' level projection-all covered with clear redwood 1 X 6 t&g-and painted white-around the entire 7000 sq ft single story house.60% of the inside had vaulted ceilings with western cedar 1 X 6 t&g with fir fox beams-enough babbling-

          145. Greg_Brown | Mar 01, 2001 03:20pm | #149

            *all the pics of this house were taken ten yrs after we did the project. Here are some of the valted ceilings

          146. Greg_Brown | Mar 01, 2001 03:31pm | #150

            *2 of the 3 fireplace mantles

          147. Greg_Brown | Mar 01, 2001 03:36pm | #151

            *here's the other fireplace & entertainment center

          148. Greg_Brown | Mar 01, 2001 03:44pm | #152

            *here's a 5 sided fluted post & part of the upstairs office we bootleged in after final

          149. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 01, 2001 04:20pm | #153

            *Very Interesting Splinty. Thanks for the info.I like the idea of getting some land free.Free! My favorite word.blue

          150. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 01, 2001 04:34pm | #154

            *Pro, it was the Nathan deck that didn't appeal to my senses. I also wondered about the legality of the screen that was used as a rail. I thought that any repetitive horizontal members were banned because they can be used as a ladder and the little ones can climb out and over.I undestand the rule of thumb about the carrying strength of cantilever. I was just trying to point out that allowing the joist to cantilever, without a need, can sometimes lead to unsatisfactory conditions in the future. blue

          151. Francis_Voignier | Mar 01, 2001 05:04pm | #155

            *Nathan, none of your pictures made it so I am still wondering about your deck and the architect who designed it. The fence for railing wouldn't necessarily please the inspector around here, and I believe that structurally, the through bolt system will eventually cause problems. Also, I don't understand why the miterred end of your joists is cut at different angles. This is a peculiar design which in my opinion doesn't complement what I see of the house.fv

          152. jim_"crazy_legs"_blodg | Mar 01, 2001 06:50pm | #156

            *Okay, what the hell?First Luka asks for photos. Any photos of any work. Then folks start posting pictures of stuff they are proud of, and other folks start giving their negative opinions on what they see?We are all different. And if someone is proud enough of what they did to post a picture, the least you guys could do is say something positive, or say nothing at all. No wonder we see so few pictures. Glad I'm not your son, showing you my first spice rack, or reading you my first essay.Let's knock off all the negativaty, huh?

          153. James_DuHamel | Mar 01, 2001 08:48pm | #157

            *Here's a vanity that I did a few months back. It is made of maple plywood, and poplar. The drawers are 3/4" construction and dovetailed.The paint is satin trim/cabinet grade acrylic enam,el, sprayed with an hvlp unit.James

          154. James_DuHamel | Mar 01, 2001 08:51pm | #158

            *Here's a matching linen cab to go with the vanity. Same maple plywood and poplar construction.James

          155. nathan_wegemer | Mar 02, 2001 12:35am | #159

            *blue, no offense taken. I guess you'd have to see the whole project, to get the real picture. The project was a pair of 2nd story additions, with each house taking on the persona of either Rosencrantz or Guilderstern. The owner is involved in the theater to some extent, and the architects gave each house the character of those two Shakesperean characters. Now, if they succeeded or not, I don't know, because I haven't read the play (Hamlet???)This deck was supposed to have a (subtle) nautical theme to represent the voyage they took.Francis. If you haven't been able to see, are you judging the work based on the words you have read? Amazing. But then, I didn't come to like this deck myself until I was just a few days away from being done. I understand there can be problems with posting on Explorer and trying to open in Netscape. The different angle you describe, isn't on the joist, but on the decking. Each deck has a side that is skewed 15º to the long axis of the 5/4x4 decking. This would leave a 75º rip, resulting in decking ends that were 13 1/2" long and floating off the joist. Hope we can figure out how to get one of my jpegs open on your end so you can see and critique from a visual. Don't worry about the feelings. I want to get better, not patted on the head. See if you can open this.

          156. nathan_wegemer | Mar 02, 2001 12:47am | #160

            *changed some things in the saving of this version.saves to my desktop, then opens when I drag/drop the icon into the window.

          157. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 01:04am | #161

            *To open Nathan's pics, I have to save them to my desktop and change the extension to .jpg. I have opened them and re-saved them. I will re-post them in hopes that everyone can see them.

          158. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 01:06am | #162

            *This is one of the beefiest decks I have seen for it's size. Good work, Nathan.

          159. Novy_7 | Mar 02, 2001 01:20am | #163

            *They do open fine in explorer

          160. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 01:23am | #164

            *As for negative comments, Jimbo has a point. Although Nathan didn't take offense, in this media it is very easy to do so. Someone might post something and get comments about how they should have done it differently, and take those comments not as constructive, but as destructive. It is very easy to do.Since it's so easy for that to happen, how about we take our cue from the poster themself. If they ask for constructive criticism, feel free to post it. But if they don't, then if you can't say something positive, don't say anything at all.Of course, if something is an obvious safety hazard, then I don't see the point in letting it be taken by proxy as a safe way of doing things. Too many DIY's here to let something really hazardous pass without comment. How are they to know ??? You don't say anything, they take that as a sign that it's ok, and next week their kid kills themselves falling off something they built.

          161. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 01:29am | #165

            *The fence.

          162. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 01:30am | #166

            *That's not surprising. He's posting in Internet Explorer. But they don't open for some people who use Netscape.

          163. splintergroupie_ | Mar 02, 2001 02:18am | #167

            *Yep, moving "Petite Renardine" was big fun! And thank-you...

          164. splintergroupie_ | Mar 02, 2001 02:30am | #168

            *James, what goes into that open space above the lower doors of the linen cab?

          165. kkearney | Mar 02, 2001 02:30am | #169

            *Brisketbean,House is in St. Francisville, La. It is part of a bed and breakfast and rents for $200 a nite. Replaced everything but floor and ceiling. Here is a pic of a cheap version of wrapped beams I did to hold up the 2x4 ceiling joist spanning 14 feet on 24 centers in it.Your work is great btw.KK

          166. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 02:34am | #170

            *SG,I am impressed.

          167. splintergroupie_ | Mar 02, 2001 02:38am | #171

            *Luka, i hear you had a little house-moving party of your own yesterday!

          168. Gabe_Martel | Mar 02, 2001 02:39am | #172

            *I may work in heavy commercial but here's an inside shot of a faux log custom that I did when I took some time off to play.Gabe

          169. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 02:43am | #173

            *Very cool, KK.Simple, clean, even elegant.Now show us the finished front of the building. And don't forget that cabinet that you built from scrap siding !!

          170. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 02:45am | #174

            *ROFLOLYup, and it didn't cost me no 50 thousand, either !!hehehe

          171. Greg_Brown | Mar 02, 2001 04:39am | #175

            *this was a fun skylight shaft

          172. Novy_7 | Mar 02, 2001 05:37am | #176

            *Luka, I have both netscape and explorer but use netscape as default.My point was that I could not open them in netscape but they opened fine in explorer. Also of interest, the other day Ron Budgell posted some pics that I could not open. When he tried to manipulate them he actually crashed netscape. The real scary thing here (Read black helicopters) is the fact that he scanned them on my computer. Go figure !

          173. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 05:53am | #177

            *Ok, it's beginning to look like netscape is just limited. I guess it's also possible that something is being put into the pictures that netscape just refuses to accept. On very many web pages there are cookies and more insidious things stuck to the image files. When you open the page, every image that opens sets a cookie or whatever device they decide to use to 'tag' your computer and whatever information about you that they are trying to gather. I am wondering if IE is doing something of that sort to the image files when it is used to do the 'browse' upload of images...Or, is it the Micro$oft 'paint' program ? Over in the earthquake post in the shed, Nathan and I went through several posts, and discovered that if I saved his image file to my desktop, then opened it in Paint Shop Pro, saved it with psp as a .jpg, and posted it back, then he saved that to his computer, didn't make any changes to it, (but got the name correct), and posted it back again, then it showed up just fine in my browser. This makes it look like it's not IE that is doing it, because as far as I know, he used IE both times.

          174. Darrel_ | Mar 02, 2001 06:18am | #178

            *Just some thoughts on the picture posting problem...If you are posting a Jpeg file, it has to have ".jpg" as the file extension. Some browsers when they see ".jpeg" don't know what to do with it and instead just download the file to your desktop.Also, JPGs need to be saved as RGB files and not CMYK files. Some photo programs give you the option to choose the format. If it is saved as a CMYK file, most web browsers choke on it.

          175. Francis_Voignier | Mar 02, 2001 06:27am | #179

            *Nathan, I have to be honest, I did react negatively to something that didn't fit in the mold of my "dogmatic" mind and it is for me to take a lesson in humility. I now recognize this gallery has no room for criticism. Please accept my apologies.fv

          176. Novy_7 | Mar 02, 2001 06:44am | #180

            *Just for fun here I will post the same JPEG image with Netscape first then Explorer.PS We built these killers ;) last spring/summer about 6wks here

          177. Novy_7 | Mar 02, 2001 06:50am | #181

            *now posted with explorer

          178. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 06:54am | #182

            *Ok, between this and the earthquake post, it is looking like IE is not the problem.Maybe it's the RGB vs CMYK thing. What graphic program are you using ?

          179. brisketbean_ | Mar 02, 2001 06:57am | #183

            *Here is a house I hung all of the doors on and hardwared out, full mortice locksets on everything, it has 64 exterior doors, and I also did the stairs, two sets of pecan stairs, one straight the other like Stans stair jobs.

          180. Novy_7 | Mar 02, 2001 06:59am | #184

            *Luka, The scanner program I used was MS photo editor.What is an RGB vs CMYK thing ? Is it types of colour ?

          181. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 07:02am | #185

            *Hey Brisket,Yer just driving around taking pictures of houses that you like, right ?heheheGood work, buddy.b : )

          182. Greg_Brown | Mar 02, 2001 07:12am | #186

            *here is a cherry entertainment center

          183. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 07:12am | #187

            *Check Darrel's post above. Apparently some programs give you the option of saving in RGB or CMYK type. I haven't found a place for a choice in my program. I'd like to see someone who has the choice in their program, posting otherwise identical pics, posted in identical ways, of the two types.Darrel ... ?

          184. Novy_7 | Mar 02, 2001 07:44am | #188

            *Luka, My previous post was RGB and I think I have converted the pic to CMYK using adobe photoshop and it seems to be a bust.PS I did build the fence ;)

          185. Ralph_Wicklund | Mar 02, 2001 07:48am | #189

            *You sure did something to it. The fence has rainbow colors in the vertical lines and it looks like every other horizontal line, like the raster on a TV set. is missing.

          186. Luka_ | Mar 02, 2001 07:48am | #190

            *The picture is all wonkered, but it opens normaly.It's got me stymied.Thanks for this, Novy.b : )I am going to include the bit about the CMYK in a FAQ.

          187. Greg_Brown | Mar 02, 2001 08:09am | #191

            *a cherry bookcase- not one nail

          188. James_DuHamel | Mar 02, 2001 08:11am | #192

            *Hey Splinter,Because of the very tight space restrictions in the bathroom, the vanity and linen cabinet were to be butted right next to each other. The toilet was arms length from the vanity side, so the toilet paper holder had to go there. The toilet paper holder jutted out about 4", so if the bottom doors had gone up any higher, you would not have been able to open the right hand door all the way. I left an open space directly in line with the tp holder, and now the bottom doors can be opened all the way, without hitting the tp holder. The customer stores toilet paper and wash rags in the cubby hole.I did not design the bathroom. I just made the cabs and installed them right where the customer wanted them placed. I did install the vanity top, all the sink plumbing, and the marble shower surround (with a window in the tub area). All of those pictures are on a cam corder tape, so I have no way of posting them. Most of my work is recorded with a camcorder. Some day I might be able to get them converted to disc so I can have still pictures of all of them.James

          189. Greg_Brown | Mar 02, 2001 08:18am | #193

            *some better pics on that bookcase

          190. splintergroupie_ | Mar 02, 2001 09:42am | #194

            *I can relate: I have a microwave cab over my clothes dryer--perfect size space for the cats' bowls.Some digital cameras have a "burst" mode--sort of pseudo-video--might suit your needs. The dig camcorders are a little expensive yet.

          191. The_Tennis_Court_Builder_...on_t | Mar 02, 2001 03:24pm | #195

            *Luka...It did not open On my Win 98/explorer/auto updated to latest.near the goofed up net stream,aj

          192. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 02, 2001 11:12pm | #196

            *I'm glad that you didn't take any offense Nathan, because my comments sure weren't meant to offend. I too noticed the varied joist and angled deck top. I immediately sensed that since this was a finished deck, it was meant to be some sort of artsy fartsy finish. And we all know that one man's art might be another man's trash.My first feeling about that deck was on the negative side, and a big reason was that wavy deck edge. I really wouldn't have commented on it until you mentioned that you were only following an architet's wishes. I suppose even if you were the designer, I would be willing to forgive you if you were following your client's wishes. We don't always get to build the things that we like. I know I've put up some stuff that rally sucked, but I did nice carpentry on it. What's your take on the safty aspects of that screen rail Nathan?blue

          193. nathan_wegemer | Mar 02, 2001 11:27pm | #197

            *when I was a kid, I never met a fence I couldn't climb. The mesh does invite finger and toe-holds, I agree. But, it is within the 4" opening code.

          194. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 02, 2001 11:29pm | #198

            *That fence style wouldn't pass here in Mi. At least I don't think so.I'm going to check around...blue

          195. Novy_7 | Mar 03, 2001 03:56am | #199

            *The fence would pass a sensible 4 " Vertical ruling but the codes have changed to stop toddlers from climbing in the horizontal

          196. Greg_Brown | Mar 03, 2001 03:57am | #200

            *I found this on a fireblock behind some plaster...

          197. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 03, 2001 04:07am | #201

            *I still have an old Budweiser with the solid top like that Greg.blue

          198. mark_cadioli | Mar 03, 2001 05:31am | #202

            *Some scaffold I built yesterday..( took most of the day )

          199. Luka_ | Mar 03, 2001 06:00am | #203

            *Younguns...Braggin' about how fast they can work...There aughta be a law.Grumble. Gripe.

          200. jim_"crazy_legs"_blodg | Mar 03, 2001 06:38am | #204

            *well, um, were you gonna do it THAT way?

          201. mark_cadioli | Mar 03, 2001 07:23am | #205

            *young 'uns my foot.....I'm probably older than you..

          202. mark_cadioli | Mar 03, 2001 07:23am | #206

            *I know it's a little wierd ....but that's the way I was taught by a master boogerer from WA

          203. Francis_Voignier | Mar 03, 2001 07:35am | #207

            *Beautiful scaffold, impressive work Mark. Is it code?fv

          204. Jerry | Mar 03, 2001 08:10am | #208

            *Stan,The work you do is fabulous. I'm curious about the glass in this picture. I thought that tempered glass couldn't be etched and that tempered was required on stairs. Which part am I wrong about? Can you provide any details about these panels. Are they custom made? Cost?TIA,Jerry

          205. Stan_Foster | Mar 03, 2001 01:50pm | #209

            *Jerry: That is tempered glass. The patterns the customer wanted were etched here in Champaign, Il.The cost of this glass also included some rather large glass panels on the second level balcony. All the glass work was done for around $1200.00.

          206. Stan_Foster | Mar 03, 2001 01:55pm | #210

            *Heres a stairway I have been working on. The first is the stringer forms for making the inside and outside stringers of a 19 step freestanding stairway.

          207. Stan_Foster | Mar 03, 2001 01:57pm | #211

            *This is the stairs after it is built.

          208. Stan_Foster | Mar 03, 2001 01:58pm | #212

            *Here is a typical curved stairs ready for road travel to the site.

          209. Stan_Foster | Mar 03, 2001 02:01pm | #213

            *This is a finished install. I particularly do not care for the small balusters and rail on this stairway, but it is exactly what the client wanted. I prefer 1.75 inch base balusters with a beefier rail myself.

          210. Stan_Foster | Mar 03, 2001 02:08pm | #214

            *Those wrinkles in the drywall are really wrinkles in a picture I took a digital shot of.

          211. Stan_Foster | Mar 03, 2001 02:13pm | #215

            *This is another shot of a previously posted stairs. It is freestanding, 19 treads, 18 inch inside stringer radius, 70 inch outside radius.

          212. Stan_Foster | Mar 03, 2001 02:20pm | #216

            *I don't know why I can never get that particular picture to post or to e-mail to anyone.

          213. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 03, 2001 04:22pm | #217

            *Stan,It is opening correctly, the problem is that it is a document file (.htm) not a graphics file (.jpg).Try scanning and saving it again.

          214. jim_"crazy_legs"_blodg | Mar 03, 2001 07:03pm | #218

            *oh, okay.

          215. Greg_Brown | Mar 03, 2001 07:47pm | #219

            *The other day I dropped off half a dozen disposable cameras to get developed not really remembering what all was on them. I couldn't figure out what these two were till later in the roll- what does it look like to youse guyz?

          216. Greg_Brown | Mar 03, 2001 08:05pm | #220

            *here is a mantle I did about a month ago-don't know if you've noticed, but I love dentil molding

          217. Greg_Brown | Mar 03, 2001 08:12pm | #221

            *here are some more of that 7000 sq ft monster

          218. Greg_Brown | Mar 03, 2001 08:17pm | #222

            *the back of the house

          219. Greg_Brown | Mar 03, 2001 08:21pm | #223

            *anyone get it right?anyone care?I got a kick out of itI'VE GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS

          220. splintergroupie_ | Mar 03, 2001 08:36pm | #224

            *Was this your endoscopy or someone else's?

          221. Greg_Brown | Mar 03, 2001 09:18pm | #225

            *splintergroupie;endoscopy? I feel so uneducated suntines- if you are asking me if that is my picture in reguards to the previous two I posted the answer would be yes( I think)gb

          222. splintergroupie_ | Mar 03, 2001 09:36pm | #226

            *Nah, i responded before i realized it was a sawdust-scape; it reminded me of some photos i once saw of my innards proving i AM NOT full of shit.

          223. Luka_ | Mar 03, 2001 11:00pm | #227

            *You are trying to post using the address for the picture that you got while still in an editing session in yahoo. Go to the page that you have put the picture on, (without logging in to yahoo. Just do it the same as we would have to if we wanted to see the picture.) Then load the picture. When you can see the picture on your screen, put your cursor in the heart of the image, RIGHT click and choose 'copy image location' from the menu. Then come back here, start a new post and RIGHT click inside the edit box and choose paste.That should do it.

          224. Luka_ | Mar 03, 2001 11:05pm | #228

            *This is one project that Jim was glad to have gotten done before nightfall...

          225. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 04, 2001 12:03am | #229

            *That's a sweet ceiling Beany!

          226. doug_hubbard | Mar 04, 2001 12:04am | #230

            *Here's a few shots of the last house I built.front elevation

          227. doug_hubbard | Mar 04, 2001 12:12am | #231

            *rear elevationhouse was about 4500 square feet - we finished two weeks ahead of schedule and one percent under budget.

          228. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 04, 2001 12:24am | #232

            *Luka, you can only blame yourself for unleashing this monster. Here's a post on those trees as posts

          229. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 04, 2001 12:26am | #233

            *Encore

          230. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 04, 2001 12:37am | #234

            *Here's the first set of curved stairs I did. Can anybody figure out why that newel is in the middle of the run?

          231. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 04, 2001 12:44am | #235

            *Maybe from this one?

          232. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 04, 2001 12:45am | #236

            *LUKA!!!???Whas happening?

          233. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 01:17am | #237

            *doug,

            We need to talk. . . You need to get them to look like this.Great work by the way. . .

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          234. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 01:21am | #238

            *doug,

            Great work by the way once again. . .

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          235. David_Ferro | Mar 04, 2001 01:30am | #239

            *Hey Guys, Ever need that perfect finishing touch. Here is something I made to top the home of an avid fishing hobbiest. As if any of us near water, isn't one! It's hand sculpted copper with 23Karat gold leaf. "Mmmm Shiny" If there is any interest I'm at http://www.netvanes.com

          236. Peter_Casey | Mar 04, 2001 01:41am | #240

            *That entry to home screams for a copper top cupola and weathervane on top of garage...

          237. Luka_ | Mar 04, 2001 02:23am | #241

            *Dunno, Bucksnort.The first two came through just fine.Did you write everything down again ?Please do. It might give me some insight that I could use when I give advice to others as well.Oh, and the monster can take on a life of it's own as far as I'm concerned. I'm enjoying every bit of this.

          238. Luka_ | Mar 04, 2001 02:41am | #242

            *David,As a sculptor at heart, I have to say, that is one awesome weathervane. We need to talk about this, though...i If there is any interest I'm at http://www.netvanes.comI hope that you actualy get some interest. I would like to see any artisan who puts out this kind of quality, be able to do so and make a good living at it. However, your approach comes across as a bit uncouth. In a word, advertising. I think that most here would prefer that no advertising be done in our posts. In a capitalist society, the only way to succeed in business is to be noticed. Those who are willing and able to take advantage of every opportunity to be noticed are the ones who are the most likely to be successful. However, there is a time and a place when it is not the best thing to be doing. Using Taunton's forum to blatantly advertise is not a good thing, unless you are paying Taunton for that priviledge. Maybe a better approach would be just to say that you enjoy doing this sort of thing for a living, and then wait for emails from people who may be interested in having you do some work for them. This is basicaly Joe Fusco's approach. That of showing his work, giving others help whenever he can, and putting his contact info in his posts. Joe doesn't ever say anything like, "if you would like to have me build you a set of cabinets like these, just get ahold of me at josephfusco.com, and we can talk business". If anyone asks him, he is free to answer, but he basicaly leaves the first move up to others.Please continue to include your contact info with your posts. But also be more careful about sounding like an advertisement. I for one, would love to see more pictures of your work. (There are 1500 pictures on the website he posted, guys. And here's his own website... http://www.weathervanesbyferro.com/ )

          239. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 03:11am | #243

            *Luka,

            You live in a fictional society or you might think your smarter then the average bear. . .I have never gotten one request to do any work for anyone from this or any other site I frequent. My link is just to validate my skill and reputation. Please don't be so presumption next name when using my name. Your statement is not even close to actuate, and I'd appreciate you removing it.

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          240. Dave_Richeson | Mar 04, 2001 03:40am | #244

            *Joe, I took Luka's post as a compliment to you. I know if I lived closer to you I would beg to apprentice with you.Dave

          241. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 03:53am | #245

            *Dave,

            Thank you for the kind words. If Luka would like to do the same he could e-mail me. There is a fundamental difference between my site and the site that David posted, he sales something there. My site just have FREE advise for anyone who visits or posts a question there.I do not or have I ever solicited any services here or at any other site. I think that's not in the best interest of this site in general.

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          242. jim_"crazy_legs"_blodg | Mar 04, 2001 04:36am | #246

            *Thanks for posting that, Luka. If I'd known how much time I'd spend in there, I probably would have made it a little bigger.

          243. doug_hubbard | Mar 04, 2001 04:44am | #247

            *Thanks for the compliment Joe.So how do I get from what I'm doing to those clean, crisp images you're posting?I have several shots of homes I have designed and built but would like to do a better job presenting them...

          244. Stan_Foster | Mar 04, 2001 04:45am | #248

            *This is a 19 step freestanding stairway that I built in my shop. My first picture did not go through.

          245. Ralph_Wicklund | Mar 04, 2001 04:45am | #249

            *This is my son's one and only woodshop project, completed in his senior year, eight years ago. The only things I did on this project were modify the original plans, install the glass and hang it on the wall for all to see. My wife filled it up with glassware.The crown was made by plowing out the curve on a table saw while the piece was held in a jig and I think he made three times the amount of dentil needed because the teeth kept breaking off the thin strips. The door (the whole front) pivots up on captured dowels at the upper corners and slides back into the carcase on runners.

          246. Luka_ | Mar 04, 2001 05:26am | #250

            *Joe,Dave got it right. I was complementing you. I did not mean in any way to infer that you solicit work from anyone. I was holding up your posts as an example of a post that includes a person's website address, contact info, etc, and is not advertising in any way. My statement stands.I am as smart as I am, just as you are as smart as you are. I don't care a whit about comparisons. I am just smart enough to get out of the way when a truck is coming down the road, and to fix myself a sammich when I am hungry. I am smart enough to have survived until today, that's all I need. Though, I do believe my neighbor the black bear is just a tad less smart than I am. LOL

          247. Luka_ | Mar 04, 2001 05:28am | #251

            *What is an .mht file ?

          248. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 05:32am | #252

            *Luka,

            You missed the point. I post because I want too. He posted because he may have wanted to sell. You made the comparison, not I. Your entire statement in regards to me was an ASSUMPTION on your part. It's wrong. . . so do the right thing. . .

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          249. Luka_ | Mar 04, 2001 05:41am | #253

            *Joe, I have known some people who don't understand when they are being complemented, but you are the only person I have ever known who can take a complement and somehow assume it was an insult. I will not erase my post because you continue to make assumptions, you misunderstand it, and you assume others will too.

          250. Luka_ | Mar 04, 2001 05:43am | #254

            *By the way, there is a difference between making a comparison between an apple and an orange... and calling an apple an orange.

          251. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 06:24am | #255

            *Luka,

            I didn't say anything about insulting me. Your statement about me is wrong. I don't post my logo to fish for business. Is that understood by you?

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          252. Luka_ | Mar 04, 2001 06:52am | #256

            *I didn't say that you post your logo to fish for business. I did not even imply that you do.One last time.... I used your posts as an example of a good way to post. It was a complement. To say that someone is using this board to troll for customers is not a complement. I did not say that. What I said was a complement.

          253. Jerry | Mar 04, 2001 07:02am | #257

            *Stan,Thanks much for the info and pictures; very nice!Jerry

          254. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 07:06am | #258

            *Luka,

            Nonsense, you used me as an example of how to be discrete about fishing for business. If you don't remove it just shows your lack of character. . .There will be no need for you to reply, your action or lack there of will be response enough. . .

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          255. HomeBldr_ | Mar 04, 2001 09:19am | #259

            *Thanks to Luka and Joe!!! I can now post some of my work and houses. These are of a spec finished just before winter set in..

          256. HomeBldr_ | Mar 04, 2001 09:20am | #260

            *This is the kitchen as taken from the family room

          257. HomeBldr_ | Mar 04, 2001 09:22am | #261

            *This is the family room fireplace and built-ins, taken from the kitchen

          258. HomeBldr_ | Mar 04, 2001 09:23am | #262

            *This is the den/study ceiling, wainscoted in oak

          259. HomeBldr_ | Mar 04, 2001 09:25am | #263

            *And the den/study wainscot and built-ins.....I'll quit for now

          260. Luka_ | Mar 04, 2001 09:29am | #264

            *Beautiful work, Steven.Are you using a scanner and scanning photographs, or are you using a digicam ?

          261. HomeBldr_ | Mar 04, 2001 09:38am | #265

            *Those are with digcam. They sure seem grainy though

          262. Luka_ | Mar 04, 2001 09:55am | #266

            *They're not just grainy. They look lossy, due to being saved as .jpg twice. Is there some sort of option with your camera to save as something other than .jpg ? Or maybe even saving as 640 by 480 in the first place ? .jpg is a lossy graphics file compression system in the first place. When you save the picture in the larger size, as .jpg, it is saved with a loss of detail already. When you then make it a smaller size, (640x480), and save it again as .jpg, it really starts to show it. As in all those zig-zag lines.

          263. splintergroupie_ | Mar 04, 2001 10:00am | #267

            *Yay! Color!

          264. Greg_Brown | Mar 04, 2001 01:56pm | #268

            *do you know what a dyslexic cow says?ooooom

          265. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 02:58pm | #269

            *Chris,

            "Maybe a better approach would be just to say that you enjoy doing this sort of thing for a living, and then wait for emails from people who may be interested in having you do some work for them. This is basicaly Joe Fusco's approach. That of showing his work, giving others help whenever he can, and putting his contact info in his posts. Joe doesn't ever say anything like,if you would like to have me build you a set of cabinets like these, just get ahold of me at josephfusco.com, and we can talk business". If anyone asks him, he is free to answer, but he basicaly leaves the first move up to others."

            First I didn't ask for your opinion.What you suffer from is not Dyslexia, in my be stupidity.Welcome to the B-group.I don't post here to get work. To compare my posts or how he presumes why I post to Dave's in this contexts is DEAD WRONG just like you.

            View Image © 1999-2000"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          266. David_Ferro | Mar 04, 2001 03:14pm | #270

            *GUYS, GUYS!!! I'm very sorry if I've started trouble here. Luka, You invited me to post here from "some see value in the weirdest things". Your exact words were "Please go post this in the gallery as well. Great work. : )" In the other section I was clearly advertising my work. I doubled checked your opening words at the top of the gallery section for rules. It does NOT state, no advertisements. I went ahead and introduced myself as I thought you were inviting me to do. I am very sorry that I misunderstood your intent and stirred the s**t. I am also very very grateful for your kind words regarding my work. You are absolutely right. I love what I do and my passion for sculpting weathervanes yields a uniquely quality piece as well as me some success. By the way, I DO "pay Taunton for that privilege". You also invited me to share more pix of my work so here is a life-sized vane I sculpted for a New Orleans restaurant....

          267. Stan_Foster | Mar 04, 2001 03:19pm | #271

            *GUYS::GUYS:: Lets enjoy the pictures of projects of various members,as fulfilling this threads original intent.Heres a picture of my stairshop in Illinois.

          268. Stan_Foster | Mar 04, 2001 03:43pm | #272

            *Dave: I am adding on a large cupula to the my stairshop I just posted. I would love to have one of your weathervanes on top of it. You do fabulous work! I will be contacting you later.

          269. David_Ferro | Mar 04, 2001 04:47pm | #273

            *Stan, nicely done workshop. Your right, it begs for a cupola and weathervane to complement the detail you put in the molding and returns. I suggest a cupola with at least a 3' diameter and keep the weathervane subject simple and bold so it doesn't compete with all the trees. Here is another pic. of a vane we made for a Florida residence that is anything but simple...

          270. Stan_Foster | Mar 04, 2001 04:59pm | #274

            *Dave: Right on! I have plans for a 40 inch wide cupula. A store boughten one 24 inches wide would look like junk up there. I was always told that it should be 1/12 to 1/10 the length of the building to be proportioned right. My shop is 36 feet long, so that 36 to 40 inch size looks good. Hey, I need one for my house addition also.

          271. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 06:38pm | #275

            *Chris,

            This is where it could get interesting. Just what did he compliment me on?

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          272. Mike_Smith | Mar 04, 2001 07:16pm | #276

            *he likes you , joe..always has.. just like me......i downloaded quicktime.. do i have to install it?how do i install it...?

          273. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 04, 2001 07:26pm | #277

            *Mike,

            Just find where you downloaded it too and click on it. It will download the rest of the files and take you through the installation.

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          274. splintergroupie_ | Mar 04, 2001 07:34pm | #278

            *Stan, i was wondering: when you have a curved stair with a wall beside, does your crew frame the wall or do the rough framers do that? It seems like getting the curved plate right at the top of the wall could be tricky for on-site work...

          275. Stan_Foster | Mar 04, 2001 07:45pm | #279

            *Splinter: I supply plywood outside plates that are 1/2 inch larger radius than my outside face of my outside stringer. I then always personally go to the jobsite and lay the springline of the stairs out and draw an arc exactlly where these plates go. I am the one that is responsible for this to all lign up, and I just cannot risk a $10-20K stairs not fitting. I insist that only straight studs be used. When I set the stairs, I lag to each stud under the treads with 3/8 by 4 inch lags. This pulls any gaps very tight. Once in a great while, I will have one that is tough to get perfect to the stringer, and then I have taken a sawzallto notch 1/2 through the rogue stud to get it to behave. I have not yet had to put any quarterround trim on the wall stringer. I absolutely despise trim on the stringer.

          276. splintergroupie_ | Mar 04, 2001 08:00pm | #280

            *Wow, that was quick! Thank-you.

          277. Greg_Brown | Mar 04, 2001 11:42pm | #281

            *this is Tom the plumber's kitchen. When he told me he was installing a "pot filler" I thought maybe he was talking of some bong loading device or something...

          278. Greg_Brown | Mar 04, 2001 11:47pm | #282

            *at Tom the plumber's again- I love it when you make new sweethearts at work-Tom's daughter

          279. Bob_Clark | Mar 05, 2001 06:20am | #283

            *Here is a photo of a complete kitchen rebuild that I recently completed. It was all don in Hickory

          280. Roger_Dumas | Mar 05, 2001 06:32pm | #284

            *Hi folks. Great series of pictures! I love David Ferro's weathervanes. I'm a fishing enthusiast on Cape Cod so I particularly liked the bass. I'm a do-it-yourselfer putting an addition on my house. I did a striped bass in shingles that could go along with Dave's weathervane. The portico on the "lighthouse" to the right will look like a whale's tail (at least I'm hoping). One of Dave's weathervanes would look good on a cupola on top of the lighthouse.Dave, do you have to worry about the weathervanes acting like a lightening rod???

          281. Roger_Dumas | Mar 05, 2001 07:31pm | #285

            *Folks,My apologies in advance for sending out a large image in my previous postiing. I read the other threads flaming people like me AFTER I posted it. (What? Doesn't everyone have RoadRunner?)Here's a reduced image of the striper. Be forewarned that it is still 131KB. But that's the smallest I could make it and still see detail.Later...

          282. Mike_Smith | Mar 05, 2001 07:46pm | #286

            *roger ... some things deserve a big image.. nice of you to post it 2x .. once for those with cable modems and one for those without..now that is a striper !

          283. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 05, 2001 08:16pm | #287

            *Roger,

            Like Mike said, that's a striper! That's a beautiful job of shingling.

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          284. Roger_Dumas | Mar 05, 2001 08:36pm | #288

            *Thanks, guys! I got the idea from a goose I saw in Fine Homebuilding about 10 years ago and wanted to take a shot at it since then. I never could locate that edition though...

          285. Mike_Smith | Mar 05, 2001 09:18pm | #289

            *rodger... what was your exposure ? looks like 4" ?

          286. Roger_Dumas | Mar 05, 2001 09:42pm | #290

            *Mike... Actually, it was 5". The fish is about 10' wide and 4'high.If you're interested in technique, I found a picture of a striper and laid out a grid over the picture. The cells of the grid were 5" x 5" to correpond to the exposure. Then I drew a grid on the wall and transfered the points where the curves on the picture intersected the grid to the corresponding grid on the wall. Then I drew the curves on the shingles as I went along and cut them with a handheld scroll saw.

          287. allen_schell | Mar 05, 2001 09:49pm | #291

            *Roger, Bravo! What a work of art, how do you bid that or is it t&m?

          288. Roger_Dumas | Mar 05, 2001 09:59pm | #292

            *Thanks, Allen!I did it on my own house and had no idea how long it would take when I started. Last week a woman walked up the driveway while I was working and asked me how much I would charge to make one on her garage for her husband's birthday. I told her that I hadn't really thought about it but that it took me about 6 days to make the fish. (They had recently had the garage added to their house.) She started doing the math in her head and then looked at me with a blank expression and said, "Oh... That would be expensive, wouldn't it?" LOL!!!

          289. Luka_ | Mar 05, 2001 10:09pm | #293

            *Roger, This is sculpture. Beautiful work. I am looking forward to seeing that whale's tail too.If it takes six days, charge for twelve.Did that six days include the time it took you to make the picture, and to figure out and do the grid process ?Also, if you do this on someone else's house, you have to do it at the same time the siding is going on, or else you have to take off what's there and work with it, or any number of other frustrating, time-consuming factors. Maybe you should make it 18 days instead.

          290. Roger_Dumas | Mar 05, 2001 10:33pm | #294

            *Luka -- 18 days works for me!The six days were from the time I cut the first shingle. I had spent a while before that figuring out how to do it and studying striper pictures. If I was a lawyer I could probably call that "billable time"!That's a good point about those other factors. I can just see the regular shingle guy stopping half-way up a wall and waiting for "Picasso" to show up and make his fish! HA! HA! HA!

          291. jim_"crazy_legs"_blodg | Mar 05, 2001 11:11pm | #295

            *There are some great looking geese woven into the shingles of Mike Guertin's house, FHB #123, page 108.That fish really looks great too, Roger. 'bout everything I've seen in the gallery looks great. Keep it up you guys. Oh, and you folks on the Eastern Seaboard, bracing for that storm? I'll be thinkin' of you as I take one for the team at the beach on Maui the next few days. Good luck.

          292. Mike_Smith | Mar 05, 2001 11:54pm | #296

            *come on, jimbo ... post one for the gipper 'fore u go...how about scanning in Guertin's Goose ?

          293. Roger_Dumas | Mar 06, 2001 12:24am | #297

            *Does anyone have Guertin's email address???

          294. Rhode_Island_David_Ferro | Mar 06, 2001 01:19am | #298

            *Roger, Your incredible Striper humbles me. I'm laughing as I imagine the Smithsonian a century from now trying to figure out how to preserve it without destroying your house. I'm only about a half-hour from you. When I ride through the cape now, I can say I know the guy that makes those. Taking into account that you will have done several by then. The rule of thumb for grounding weathervanes is don't, unless there is a fully bonded grounding system in place. I have a whole section on my website about it @ http://www.crosswinds-gallery.com/recommended_reading/wgl.htm .Here is another fish that would look great as one of your sculptures.

          295. Stan_Foster | Mar 06, 2001 02:08am | #299

            *Heres another shot of the 19 tread freestanding stairway I just finished. The painters are putting the final finish on it, so the mess.This stairs has pecan treads, mahogany handrail made with 13 laminates., 2 3/8 inch balusters.

          296. kkearney | Mar 06, 2001 02:31am | #300

            *Great stuff everybody.Here is the porch part of a whole house restoration. House was built in mid 1800's. KK

          297. Roger_Dumas | Mar 06, 2001 03:39am | #301

            *The stuff on this site is amazing... I've been a FIB subscriber for a long time but this is the first time I've visited the site. David, I'm embarrassed by your reply. Where on the Cape or proximity are you? Do you think the Smithsonian can handle 1", 16 gauge galvanized staples???

          298. David_Ferro | Mar 06, 2001 04:07am | #302

            *Roger. Didn't mean to embarrass you. I'm genuinely impressed by your work. I'm in Bristol, RI. I'm 40 minutes from West Barnstable. It is work like yours that ends up in museums portraying the folk arts of mainstream America. Obviously they can handle the staples, I was only kidding on how its the Smithsonian's way of taking the wall with them so as not to disturb your work. Congratulations again. Can you do anything for a contemporary with vertical siding?

          299. Roger_Dumas | Mar 06, 2001 04:34am | #303

            *Dave, I can see someone in a hundred years driving a tractor into the Antiques Roadshow with one of your weathervanes and my fish on a flatbed... Gandma Moses would roll over...!!!

          300. splintergroupie_ | Mar 06, 2001 05:43am | #304

            *OK, i've got some geese in my shingles...

          301. Luka_ | Mar 06, 2001 05:59am | #305

            *You also have enormous lint flying around your house...b : /

          302. splintergroupie_ | Mar 06, 2001 06:09am | #306

            *They do call it BIG SKY country...;-)

          303. jim_"crazy_legs"_blodg | Mar 06, 2001 06:30am | #307

            *cool, splinter.If you search around, you might find some old posts by Mike Guertin. Click on his blue name, and it should take you to a page with his e mail address.

          304. splintergroupie_ | Mar 06, 2001 06:50am | #308

            *Thanks, Jim. I did this roof a couple years before Mike's article came out, but i remember the goose in his shingles and having the lights go on a little brighter...really liked the rest of that elegant not-so-big house, too.

          305. jim_"crazy_legs"_blodg | Mar 06, 2001 07:45am | #309

            *Yeah, I think being married to an architect would be great. All those creative ideas bouncing around.

          306. Stan_Foster | Mar 07, 2001 01:04am | #310

            *I am getting several e-mails wanting me to post more stair pictures, so heres a few more.

          307. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 08, 2001 02:31am | #311

            *I finally got my first set of curved stairs to post.Stan, when you write a book, you can use these as what not to do example.

          308. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 08, 2001 02:37am | #312

            *Ok, so now I did...

          309. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 08, 2001 02:38am | #313

            *Here's what not to do

          310. Mike_Smith | Mar 08, 2001 02:50am | #314

            *bb... that looks like one of the basic... ""oops... another round peg in a square hole ""was there an architect involved.. or did the owner dream this one up on their own ?inquiring minds want to know ..

          311. Stan_Foster | Mar 08, 2001 04:21am | #315

            *Bucksnort: Nice curved railing in post #351. Just curious: Do you remember how much you overbent the curved level railing? I always notice some springback, and try to over bend a small amount so as it will springback to the desired radius.

          312. Jake_Gulick | Mar 08, 2001 10:05am | #316

            *Roger,I'll throw my hat in with the rest of 'em....awesome work! I take it you're building your house on the Cape...I'd love to do a "drive by" someday! The fish is great, but I love the flare over the garage doors, and the design and detail on the rest of the house looks really well thought out. Perfect for the Cape! Why not post more pictures?I'm envious of your talents, and glad to see that you have the opportunity to exercise them! Designing and building your own house is the ultimate freedom!Nice car, too....ever get it up to Lime Rock?

          313. splintergroupie_ | Mar 08, 2001 11:09am | #317

            *Extraordinary work! If you're interested in a less laborious process for applying the image, rent an opaque projector. It casts a color image on a surface, and you can vary the size of the projection by the distance of the projector from the wall.

          314. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 08, 2001 05:57pm | #318

            *Mike, Although there was an archie-tek involved, that screw up was all mine. Like I said it was my first set, what the hell can be so hard? Just rip some 1/4" ply laminate it to the wall and cut out the tread/riser notches. Simple, right? My boss, at the time, came up with the extra newel idea, and, we never spoke of it afterwards unless in hushed hysterical tones.Stan, We clamped up the horizontal rails dry, to right angle jigs screwed to the floor (ply), then took the whole assembly off the jigs and eyeballed the springback. We kept moving the jigs unti it seemed right, and then made the radius just a bit tighter. I don't trust the springback formulae with wood, so I still do it that way.Your stairs are awesome. How many do you do a year? And how many carpenters does it take to screw in a set?

          315. Roger_Dumas | Mar 08, 2001 08:20pm | #319

            *Hmmm, I started a reply but somehow it didn't get posted...Thanks a lot, Jake. We're in Eastham on Cole Road. Drop a line and stop by and I'll give you the grand tour.I'm really lucky. The company I work for is letting me work part time while build the addition. I work 3 days for them and 3 days on the addition. Beer and sports on Sunday!Here's a picture of framing of the whale's tail and a better view of the lighthouse. For those who are bandwidth challenged, beware that it is about 278K.I'll post another after this one.

          316. Roger_Dumas | Mar 08, 2001 08:25pm | #320

            *Here a shot of the addition and original house from the east. We wanted a lot of peaks to match the complexity of the original house. What a pain to frame and shingle though...BTW, the car is a lot of fun. It's an'88 Turbo S. So I have an extra 30 HP compared to the regular turbo. I joined PCA about 4 years ago and have participated in two "driver's ed" events at Lime Rock and about 8 at NHIS. What a blast! But this is FHB and not R&T so we should probably get off that tangent... ;-)BTW, this is another 200K plus picture...Roger

          317. splintergroupie_ | Mar 08, 2001 09:37pm | #321

            *Roger,Inspiring! Best of!

          318. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 08, 2001 09:49pm | #322

            *Here's a shot of the biggest mantle thingy we ever did. It's about 6' x 18', 3/4" MDF and Fypon.

          319. Stan_Foster | Mar 08, 2001 10:51pm | #323

            *Bucksnort: Thanks for the compliment. It usually takes 6 guys to lift a stairway into the house and set it. This last one was brazilian cherry and was all 6 guys could muster to get it into place.I am getting ready to start on a 170 degree all hickory stairway that will take at least 8 guys to lift it in place. I am just a small operation, myself, my wife Barb, and a part-timer. I build 10-12 curved stairways a year. I overcorrect my railing about like you do. One kind of gets a gut feeling for much to correct based on how tight of radius and how many degrees of radous is to be bent.

          320. Roger_Dumas | Mar 09, 2001 12:35am | #324

            *Thanks, Splinter. I never thought about doing stuff with the roofing shingles. Do you ever have planes circling over checking out the geese? You might be a landmark for airplane routes...Roger

          321. Roger_Dumas | Mar 09, 2001 12:41am | #325

            *Bucksnort,Wow. That's a heck of a mantle. Is that somebody's house??? How is Mr. Gates, anyway?

          322. splintergroupie_ | Mar 09, 2001 01:05am | #326

            *Funny you should ask...there is a small airport just a mile away where some friends of mine have a business taking folks on tandem parachute jumps--they like to point out the roof if the passengers still have their eyes open. ;-)

          323. Stan_Foster | Mar 09, 2001 01:33am | #327

            *Bucksnort: Nice mantle: I really like the detail.

          324. Pro-Dek | Mar 09, 2001 03:55am | #328

            *OK so these aren't pretty but I wanted to show why you don't fasten ledgers to siding.

          325. Pro-Dek | Mar 09, 2001 03:57am | #329

            *Because of the debth of the header joist I had to double flash before attaching the treated ledger.

          326. Pro-Dek | Mar 09, 2001 03:59am | #330

            *End flashing was also needed

          327. Pro-Dek | Mar 09, 2001 04:04am | #331

            *End flashing w/ledger.I know most of you guy's are already savy to this,but I thought this might help some beginners,and remodelers.

          328. Jake_Gulick | Mar 09, 2001 04:11am | #332

            *Roger,Neat stuff! Keep going... the extra work is worth it in the end! Hey, if your boss has any more 3 days on 4 days off openings........well, nice deal if you can get it!I hope to start a smaller third floor addition myself this spring when the snow dries up... thanks for the inspiration.I thought your car was a tracker! I have a '73 911 with a 2.7 in RS trim that I take to Lime Rock... and a first generation RX-7 that I race with the SCCA in ITA...fun stuff... maybe we'll bump into..um not literally... each other at a PCA event someday!Keep the progress photos coming!Jake

          329. Barry_E | Mar 09, 2001 04:28am | #333

            *>"beginners,and remodelers" ??????Okey Dokey.

          330. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 09, 2001 04:35am | #334

            * If any of you are still interested,

            I've been looking around for a "free" image editor that anyone with a PC can use to "manage" their pictures before they post them. The reason being is that most of you don't have one or you do and your just to lazy to learn how to use it.I'll assume the former. This program (Bright) I found is really cool, better then the one I first posted. I didn't have much time to play with it, but it did the BASIC thing, reduced file size. You can do a lot more with it if you want to take the time. You can even make animated gif's.Roger the fish man posted a pair of whoppers over 230kb each. . .Ouch! I'll use his as an example. I won't show the whopper just the two I reduced.This one is at 640 x 480 and now is just 30kb.This one is at 320 x 240 and now is just 12kb!.This program is simple to use and I think most of you will have fun learning it.

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          331. Frank_Van_Tyne | Mar 09, 2001 07:27am | #335

            *I built this deck to house two cedar soaking tubs ( one hot and one cold, both circulate and can be either hot or cold.) in a clearing in an overgrown christmas tree farm. There's a sound isolated pump house about 40' away and whole complex with an outdoor shower, benches,covered seating area and whatnot. The deck was my favorite part all flowing curves.Frank

          332. Pro-Dek | Mar 09, 2001 07:54am | #336

            *Frank Van Tyne - Nice job,curved decks are a challenge.You left your ice pick in the cold tub though.Don't forget to move it before you jump in.

          333. Pro-Dek | Mar 09, 2001 08:08am | #337

            *OK- Blue- , first of all there is a need to canterlever when you are making any radius,unless you have found a way to bend beams.How the heck is there going to be any movement when the joists are setting on two beams and pissnailed to 20'joists fastened to the house?What I really needed was a board stretcher, cause 20'joists weren't long enough.

          334. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 09, 2001 03:15pm | #338

            *Stan, how come you don't move your assembly operation on site, and avoid the heavy lifting? blue

          335. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 09:15pm | #339

            *Floor in Brush-Box and Messmate with a penetrative oil finish

          336. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 09:19pm | #340

            *A centre detail in the same floor, with the stair cladding of Brush-Box over concrete.The pattern was centred on a ceiling lantern -- the architect cocked-up the stairs by forgetting to allow for the thickness of cladding on the treads so I had to add two treads at the bottom, spoiling the symmetry of the centre design.

          337. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 09:21pm | #341

            *Something different -- a mitred plank floor in Messmate

          338. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 09:22pm | #342

            *Same floor -- different view

          339. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 09:24pm | #343

            *A Brush-box floor with a chain border in Silver Ash

          340. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 09:25pm | #344

            *Last one, I promise!An 'Antique' floor using re-claimed pine flooring

          341. Luka_ | Mar 09, 2001 09:29pm | #345

            *Encore !!!

          342. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 09, 2001 09:30pm | #346

            *Pretty work Ian. Brush-box? Messmate?? I'm thinking they're wood, but help me out here.How do you do your curved stair risers? Steam, laminate, or kerf?Messmate sounds like my kind of wood...

          343. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 09:41pm | #347

            *All Australian Eucalypts Billy -- the curving to the risers was done with coffin cuts to the back.Here's a Tallowood floor with an oil finish and a border of American Walnut and aluminium to match the kitchen units

          344. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 09:42pm | #348

            *Same floor, different view

          345. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 09:52pm | #349

            *A memorial plaque for the Jewish Museum in Melbourne, made to showcase a friend's poem.

          346. splintergroupie_ | Mar 09, 2001 10:24pm | #350

            *This one needs some 'splaining...glass work?

          347. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 10:31pm | #351

            *Yes

          348. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 09, 2001 10:33pm | #352

            *I love those wood names. Coffin cuts? If that's the same as kerfs I'm going to start talking with an accent.Again, good looking stuff.

          349. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 09, 2001 10:52pm | #353

            *Thanks. The house belonged to who worked in security (the house alarm type). Shows you where the money's going.Here's the kind that I really like to do...

          350. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 09, 2001 10:59pm | #354

            *Real pretty BB, what's the timber? -- and did you do the marble?

          351. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 09, 2001 11:08pm | #355

            *Mike, an arrrrchitect and homeowner (who just happenens to be an interior desecrator) came up with this one. The scale is wacked to me, but hey I only went to The School of Hard Knocks.Ever the puveyor of good taste, BB

          352. allen_schell | Mar 10, 2001 12:36am | #356

            *BB,Your hard knock college taught you well, scale wacked!

          353. Luka_ | Mar 10, 2001 01:52am | #357

            *Bucksnort,Definatly out of proportion as is, but what if they had moved the column over a bit, (only a very small bit), seperated it from the staircase at the floor, and pig-tailed the hand rail around it ?

          354. Luka_ | Mar 10, 2001 01:53am | #358

            *Mondo Goth dooooood...b : )

          355. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 10, 2001 04:07pm | #359

            *Luka, I agree with the separation thought, but like I said an architect AND an interior desecrator were in on this, so of course there's a structural steel post, inside of that wooden column , which couldn't line up with anything helpful, but still had to be covered up while making a design statement. Everybody was too pig-headed to admit it didn't work and try another tack.Now, on the other hand, here's a pretty cool kitchen I helped on back in '90...

          356. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 10, 2001 04:32pm | #360

            *Ya can't tell, mate? Why that's ruddy oak. I'm a wood butcher, that marble was done by a professional, and drinking buddy. Whose sez classes can't mix?

          357. Mike_Smith | Mar 10, 2001 04:36pm | #361

            *bucksnort.. you're incorrigible.... i still can't view about half your pics... including the last one...and i know i'm missin some good stuff..how come you pic files don't end in .jpg ?

          358. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 10, 2001 04:50pm | #362

            *Mike, don't worry, I'm just clipping stuff out Architetural Digest.I can't tell if the problem is buggy software (PhotoDelux) or buggy browser (AOL). I thought I had deleted the ones that wouldn't open..jpg? that must be something that works, mac users would never tolerate that.Trying to be corrigible, but ending up more corregated, BB

          359. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 10, 2001 04:58pm | #363

            *OK, another try at that kitchen.I went from 100% of something to 75%, and was too lazy to name it anything

          360. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 10, 2001 05:09pm | #364

            *This is driving me bonkers, but same kitchen, same reduction. Slightly different but still lazy file name

          361. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 10, 2001 05:27pm | #365

            *BB,Nice one,-- got any more? BTW is ruddy oak like red oak only lighter?'Coffin' cuts because they were the method of bending the 'shoulders' of a coffin (casket?)

          362. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 10, 2001 05:52pm | #366

            *Ian, Ruddy oak's like red oak only heavier! Ok, I made up the ruddy, it really is red oak. Ruddy just seems to have, a well, ah... je ne sais crois? I'm gonna start using ruddy with my clients, though.I am very impressed with your inlaid ( is that right?) stair treads. Do you get a lot of call for them. I've never seen here, except in places I've paid to get into. Jolly good stuff.

          363. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 10, 2001 06:09pm | #367

            *Ok, ok, but just this one more, really.A cold air return cover for a guy who drove a Jag.Now really, I gotta go buy the beer for the ACC tournament party or they won't let me in the place.Go Heels

          364. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 11, 2001 01:12am | #368

            *A carpet surround in Tallowood and Silver Ash

          365. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 11, 2001 01:13am | #369

            *Another in Tallowood with an oil finish. The design is to match the glazed doors.

          366. Nick_Markey | Mar 11, 2001 01:19am | #370

            *Outstanding work all around. Great job guys, keep it up.

          367. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 11, 2001 01:34am | #371

            *Again, very nice. What kind of oil?

          368. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 11, 2001 01:56am | #372

            *I used to mix my own -- basically one third each of boiled linseed, pure tung oil and pure turpentine but some people just use the boiled linseed and mineral turps. It is the most maintenance free of all the finishes and certainly the best for bringing out the color and figure. Providing the floor is in the sort of area where you would use fitted carpet (because it isn't a waterproof finish) the maintenance is -- instead of sweeping or vacuuming the floor, you go over it with an anti-static mop on which has been sprinkled a few drops of cedar oil or teak oil. That's it! The beauty of the oil finish is that the more you walk on it the better it looks.

          369. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 11, 2001 02:31am | #373

            *Ian,

            Great Work!

            View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

          370. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 11, 2001 02:47am | #374

            *Thank you Joe

          371. splintergroupie_ | Mar 11, 2001 03:01am | #375

            *OK, i still don't get it. A carpet bordered by wood--i've never seen anything like that except right here--any story to that?

          372. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 11, 2001 03:21am | #376

            *I'm surprised, it is quite common in Oz. I suppose it's a variation on the polished hardwood floor with a rug in the middle. The wider one, like the Bram floor, was in the Dining Room so all the fixed furniture is standing on the surround.I did a lot of work for the National Trust of Victorias' architects, restoring floors in some of the Gold-rush era mansions and nearly all of them had the carpet borders, with a recessed area in the middle so perhaps it's just a tradition there. It seems a good idea to me --- 'specially when I get paid for doing it!

          373. Don_Papenburg | Mar 14, 2001 07:40am | #377

            *This is the first brick house that I built from the ground up.

          374. Luka_ | Mar 14, 2001 07:45am | #378

            *Really ? Was this a working model ? Planning on a second story ?Great work.The proverbial brick s*** house...

          375. Don_Papenburg | Mar 14, 2001 01:41pm | #379

            *Working model , one holer with arm rest just right for reading and relaxing , 5/4 pine seat w/ raised panel front, cedar shingle roof and aluminum soffit and fachia. It has been seen by folks from four ferin contries, Australia, Poland, Latvia, and the Ukrane.

          376. Ralph_Wicklund | Mar 14, 2001 02:49pm | #380

            *What's that big "W" on the post? Is your structure a whistle stop on the local railroad line?

          377. Pro-Dek | Mar 15, 2001 02:35am | #381

            *Just finished this deck today.

          378. Pro-Dek | Mar 15, 2001 02:37am | #382

            *I call this a flat cap rail.

          379. Pro-Dek | Mar 15, 2001 02:37am | #383

            *Here is the stairs.

          380. Pro-Dek | Mar 15, 2001 02:40am | #384

            *This is a detail of the stair handrail.The routed 1x3 makes a nice grabrail.

          381. Jon_Blakemore | Mar 15, 2001 02:52am | #385

            *Pro-Dek, Are your treads 3x12 or is that a nicely matched nosing? Also, how did you fasten the treads to the stringer? Looks good.Jon

          382. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 15, 2001 02:56am | #386

            *Beautiful work -- what finish will be applied?

          383. Pro-Dek | Mar 15, 2001 03:13am | #387

            *Jon-Yes the stair jacks and treads are 3x12 incised pressure treated hem/fir. The treads are fastened with TA10 galv. angle brackets fastened with 1 1/2 bolts.I route the edges with a 3/4" round bit.Ian- Thanks for the complement-I recommend Superdeck transparent oil stain.

          384. Greg_Brown | Mar 15, 2001 04:09am | #388

            *beauty work, Bobgb

          385. Steve_schock | Mar 15, 2001 04:21am | #389

            *Nice work Bob

          386. Kathy_Blodgett | Mar 15, 2001 07:54am | #390

            *Is that soooo....what, my ideas not creative enough for you???? You won't be doing any bouncing for a while!!

          387. Luka_ | Mar 15, 2001 08:01am | #391

            *heheheHey Jim, you want me to come over tomorrow and help you to build an extension on that doghouse ?

          388. Don_Papenburg | Mar 15, 2001 01:39pm | #392

            *Ralph , so you drive your truck down the tracks once or twice , most don't know that is a whisle post. I got that from the New York Central RR that runs by my dads farm . they changed to reflective metal signs years ago . ----------------- Pro that is one cool deck.

          389. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 15, 2001 03:10pm | #393

            *Beautiful deck PD. That's more to my liking. I prefer the clean look rather that busy-ness. blue

          390. Willy_Wonker | Mar 18, 2001 05:28am | #394

            *http://webx.taunton.com/WebX?13@@.ee8074f

          391. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 20, 2001 03:45am | #395

            *This thread is sinking to the bottom -- surely there are more pictures to post?Here's one to be going on with.Border in Merbau on Oak to match art-deco crown moulding in 1920s house

          392. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:05am | #396

            *Curved stairway in my shop getting ready for shipment.

          393. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:08am | #397

            *Stairs with brass balusters

          394. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:10am | #398

            *Hickory curved stair section

          395. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:12am | #399

            *freestander in progress

          396. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:15am | #400

            *stairway in post 441 further along.

          397. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 20, 2001 04:16am | #401

            *Beautiful work as always, Stan.The last one looked a real low pitch -- what's the story with that?

          398. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:17am | #402

            *same stairs, a little farther along

          399. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:20am | #403

            *same stairs installed, finish being applied.

          400. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:22am | #404

            *another view

          401. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:24am | #405

            *last view of same freestander

          402. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 04:34am | #406

            *Ian: Thanks. That low pitched one was a hickory that had to be built with a 6 inch rise and turned a corner. It was a wide section and the run at the outsides was something like 22 inches. It was a normal run towards the inside.

          403. Ralph_Wicklund | Mar 20, 2001 04:41am | #407

            *That's impressive. That border, even on the screen, appears three-dimensional and fools the eye into believing it's an actual flight of small steps going to a tiny platform, from both sides.How long did it take to lay that out? And I'm assuming that all the corners are exactly symetrical.

          404. splintergroupie_ | Mar 20, 2001 04:53am | #408

            *I did some stairs in my Victorian with copper plumbing pipe for balusters, thought i was SO original--LOL! I used copper pan cleaner on a sponge to clean them and then lacquered them; how did you treat yours to keep them from tarnishing, or did you!

          405. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 20, 2001 05:09am | #409

            *Ralph,The border layout was a pig -- the wall that would be behind you as you view ran at 45 degrees to the remainder, so I had a 90 degree corner and about 6" away a 135 degree corner. It took about 4 hours fiddling with AutoCad to get it right -- great program!

          406. Little_Joe | Mar 20, 2001 05:10am | #410

            *This is a 1976 log kit home from somewhere out west. Nothing fancy to look at, but it was an interesting remodel -- my first dealing with logs. I'll try to get some recent pics to post as well as this early one.Later. LJ

          407. Stan_Foster | Mar 20, 2001 06:16am | #411

            *Splinter: The brass balusters were all steel wooled, cleaned and then spray laquered. They have remained bright for 4 years so far. The problem was all the work in getting them bright in the first place.

          408. Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 20, 2001 08:23pm | #412

            *Not a lot of work like that going on around here. Where do you get the patterns? Do you use a computer to lay it out.Beautiful!

          409. D.G._Bloomer | Mar 20, 2001 09:15pm | #413

            *8000+sf summerhome with nice view

          410. D.G._Bloomer | Mar 20, 2001 09:17pm | #414

            *example of framing

          411. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 20, 2001 09:32pm | #415

            *DG,I hope you'll post more pictures of the summerhome -- looks like it's going to be an interesting structure.BB.I made the design to match a detail on the crown moulding.

          412. Mike_Maines_ | Mar 21, 2001 02:11am | #416

            *Here's a porch I'm working on.

          413. Mike_Maines_ | Mar 21, 2001 02:13am | #417

            *Pier caps. Thanks Joe for the "Bright" photo editor.

          414. Pi | Mar 21, 2001 02:22am | #418

            *I've been in this thread for a long time.......The work is awesome...The 3-d effect is because of the 2-d figures put together...i.e. the rhombus and the triangles...Correct me if I'm wrong.....

          415. Ian.D.Gilham. | Mar 21, 2001 02:58am | #419

            *Thank you Pi,It's more the way that the grain runs, plus trying to keep all the 'risers' of the steps the same color and slightly different from the 'treads'I do like the ceiling, Mike -- it looks way too good for a mere porch!

          416. Joseph_Fusco | Mar 21, 2001 03:23am | #420

            *Mike,

            Anytime. You might try making them just a bit bigger. 320 x 240 (pixels) is nice. . . .;-}

            View Image © 1999-2000"More than any time in history mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness, the other to total extinction. Let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose correctly." Woody Allen

          417. Pro-Dek | Mar 23, 2001 02:11am | #421

            *My son bolting the ledger on todays deck.

          418. Pro-Dek | Mar 23, 2001 02:13am | #422

            *The deck extention

          419. Pro-Dek | Mar 23, 2001 02:15am | #423

            *I couldn't believe the previous deck builder cut the posts like this and then put them on 3'centers.

          420. Pro-Dek | Mar 23, 2001 02:18am | #424

            *This House is down the street and getting a facelift. Thought these downspouts were different.

          421. Pro-Dek | Mar 23, 2001 02:19am | #425

            *Brass downspout

          422. Pro-Dek | Mar 23, 2001 02:20am | #426

            *I couldn't believe the previous deck builder cut the posts like this and then put them on 3'centers.

          423. Don_Papenburg | Mar 23, 2001 02:36pm | #427

            *Here is a lamp that I built

          424. Don_Papenburg | Mar 23, 2001 02:42pm | #428

            *And some close ups well sorta

          425. Don_Papenburg | Mar 23, 2001 02:48pm | #429

            *ONE MORE

          426. Pro-Dek | Mar 23, 2001 04:01pm | #430

            *Nice Lamp Don.How did you form the base? Do you have a special mold? Is that an iron pedestal? Did you make the brass an glass cap? do you own a foundry? Sorry for the dumb questions, but I just work with wood. Bob

          427. blue_eyed_devil_ | Mar 24, 2001 04:51am | #431

            *Stan, I like the low risers. That actually appears almost too low. What riser is that on the hickory set?blue

          428. James_DuHamel | Mar 24, 2001 07:42pm | #432

            *Here is a bath project that I recently finished. What makes this one a little different than most is the fact that the client was 101 years old. The reason for the repair/remodel was two fold. First, the floor had started to rot away because of a leak in the bath drain, and secondly, he was getting to the point where he could not get into and out of the bathtub very easily.The whole idea here was to repair, and change from a bath to a shower without creating much of a change. This guy has spent a very long time in this home, and he has a hard time seeing. To change the layout would have been a major ordeal for him to deal with, so we kept the same layout. The shower unit we found was the same size as the original bathtub, so things worked out well.This first picture is the original tub unit.James

          429. James_DuHamel | Mar 24, 2001 07:44pm | #433

            *This is a picture of the new shower unit

          430. James_DuHamel | Mar 24, 2001 07:44pm | #434

            *A little more progress

          431. James_DuHamel | Mar 24, 2001 07:45pm | #435

            *New floor we installed

          432. James_DuHamel | Mar 24, 2001 07:45pm | #436

            *Another view

          433. Stan_Foster | Mar 24, 2001 11:39pm | #437

            *Blue: I had to match an existing set of straight stairs already in. My job was to build that curved section. If memory serves me well, it was around 6.25 inches. It was for an older couple and they liked short risers. The run on the straight steps was around 11.5 inches, so they felt pretty nice. I prefer around a 7.25 to 7.5 rise myself.

          434. Don_Papenburg | Mar 25, 2001 05:21am | #438

            *Pro-Dek The top is copper and glass that I frosted the post is one of those resin fiber collums , it was cracked at the top and I glued it back, then filled it with concrete. The fancy section and the round part just below came off of my grand fathers old porch . they are concrete .. I formed the squared form just under the round with a dry mix of concrete . I used a short chunk of crown mold to "trowel" it to shape.The top is sheet copper that I soldered together and put in the guts from a mecury vapor light. I don't own a foundry , but I know someone that does. It is more fun to make the patterns and take them to him and then go pick up the parts.

          435. Pi | Mar 28, 2001 02:49am | #439

            *Ian, do I feel stupid.....I know nothing about about risers and treads.......all I saw were geometric figures......Still awesome.....

          436. Greg_Brown | Mar 30, 2001 09:21pm | #440

            *here was a fun one- lots of "tooling fixtures" (PC for jigs)(LOL)

          437. piffin_ | Mar 31, 2001 08:54pm | #441

            *Greg post #246Looks to me like someone vented a dryer into the attic and there's a lot of lint and mold growing on the insulation.What do I winPiffin

          438. Greg_Brown | Apr 04, 2001 01:02am | #442

            *Piffin-you win..... a chance to buy me a beer! wrong answer, buddy-check the attached

          439. Charlie_Smart | Apr 04, 2001 03:42am | #443

            *We not only built an addition but a complete web site documenting the whole process.www.home-addition.comCharlie

          440. Luka_ | Apr 04, 2001 03:59am | #444

            *jeeez, you added two more houses onto your house.

          441. Allyson_Stiles | Apr 04, 2001 06:37pm | #445

            *These pictures were taken yesterday. The brick is expected to take approximately a month ( started last week ). I will post pictures of each wall as they complete it. And when the inside drywall, finish carpentry and paint are being done, I'll take progress pictures of those also.Billy

          442. Pro-Dek | Apr 05, 2001 01:59am | #446

            *Just framed this today. This is phase two on a deck I built last year.

          443. Greg_Brown | Apr 05, 2001 05:27am | #447

            *Bob- that looks like a fun one- I miss doing decks...

          444. Pro-Dek | Apr 05, 2001 08:16am | #448

            *Greg-that's a great jig you made for your router. Better put a patent on that.And all this time I thought you just went down to the lumber store and bought those flutted columns pre-made.Great job!

          445. Pro-Dek | Apr 05, 2001 08:21am | #449

            *Greg- I think your supposed to take the bark off the tree before you run it through the planner.I get the start,stop buttons, but , what do you need to push? Looks more like ya need to pull----some of that sawdust outta there.Love to see a tool that gets used.

          446. Allyson_Stiles | Apr 05, 2001 07:25pm | #450

            *This is a picture of the forms for a round porch in the front of the house I've been posting. It is getting poured tomorrow. I'll also post progress pictures of this as well.Billy

          447. Eric_M._Borgman | Apr 05, 2001 07:52pm | #451

            *Buck,I can't tell from your picture, but do you leave the end grain exposed or miter and return on those stacked horizontal planks?Either way, I LIKE IT! If I decide to steal the idea for my house, I'll email you a twelve pack!!!Eric

          448. Bucksnort_Billy | Apr 05, 2001 10:24pm | #452

            *Eric, the end grain's exposed and bullnosed. Wish I could claim credit for the design, but, I'll claim the 12 pack, Bass Ale would be sufficient...

          449. Greg_Brown | Apr 08, 2001 08:56am | #453

            *thanks Bob- atually that is part of a coving router base that is used on solid surface countertop material(corian, fountianhead,ect.)

          450. Stan_Foster | Apr 10, 2001 03:07am | #454

            *Heres a spiral stairs I finished a while back. The handrail was the toughest part with it being a dual rail seperated by 1.5 inch balls.

          451. Stan_Foster | Apr 10, 2001 03:08am | #455

            *Heres one more shot looking down the spiral.

          452. Stan_Foster | Apr 10, 2001 03:11am | #456

            *I have to thank Fine Homebuilding magazine for giving me the idea for the main post, and cantilevered riser detail. Thanks Andy for such a fine article a few years back.

          453. splintergroupie_ | Apr 10, 2001 04:15am | #457

            *Stan, how do you decide if the grain should run parallel to the leading edge of the step or the far side? Also, what are the square bumps going down the column please?

          454. Stan_Foster | Apr 10, 2001 05:15am | #458

            *splintergroup: I ran the grain down the center of the tread to make it more symetrical. My next choice would have been to run the grain parallel with the front nosing.The square bumps are the tenoned risers that go through the round column.

          455. Ralph_Wicklund | Apr 10, 2001 07:16pm | #459

            *A couple of months ago I had to header an opening in a plaster and wood lath wall to expand a kitchen AND save the wallpaper.All done.Built in shelves and cabinets and bench seating with hinged top, prefinished 2 1/4" oak strip flooring, with the bench seat and back and adjacent countertop made with left over flooring

          456. splintergroupie_ | Apr 10, 2001 07:17pm | #460

            *Thanks! Neat idea on the risers!

          457. Ralph_Wicklund | Apr 10, 2001 07:21pm | #461

            *Microwave shelf and enclosed storage under stairs and a disguised electrical panel.

          458. Bucksnort_Billy | Apr 11, 2001 12:29am | #462

            *Stan you DO have balls. Have you talked to Taunton about a book of your projects? I'd like a signed first edition.

          459. Stan_Foster | Apr 11, 2001 01:21am | #463

            *Holly: Thanks for the compliment, however there is so much neat stuff posted in breaktime that I feel like I am barely holding my own. I have actually considered writing a stairbuilding book, but my trouble is I am too busy building them to take the time. Maybe when I am older.Splintergroup: The idea for this spiral stairs, except for the railing, came right out of the November 1991 issue of Fine Homebuilding. It was an excellent article, I kept it in the back of my mind for years, and finally found a client who wanted one. That two piece rail was the hardest railing I have ever done. It was all laminated and hand planed.Heres an underside view.

          460. Frank_"Mad_Dog"_Maglin | Apr 11, 2001 01:27am | #464

            *Here's some bathroom cabinets I've recently built. The cabinets have a faux finish, but the drawers and doors aren't finished as of yet.

          461. Ian.D.Gilham. | Apr 11, 2001 02:17am | #465

            *Stan,A beautiful staircase, our regs on minimum run mean that a spiral is nearly impossible to build here now. Nice to see such a perfect example.Just for you, here is a shot of the hand rail and spandrel panels to a spiral that was built in the guest villa for Prince Khalid in Riyadh. I was the GC and this was the first time I've had to set out a spiral.Concrete with marble cladding and the handrail, etc, was made in Germany and shipped over in one piece -- by air!

          462. Stan_Foster | Apr 11, 2001 02:39am | #466

            *Ian: Thanks. That is awesome! I can tell a lot of thought and care went into that project. That is one to be proud of for sure.

          463. splintergroupie_ | Apr 11, 2001 05:17am | #467

            *Thanks, Stan. I was an off-and-on FHB buyer until '94, but i'll hit the library for a copy of the article. Spirals are a real favorite of mine. Wonderful that you put it into a round opening instead of the squared-off ones i usually see.

          464. tony_soprano | Apr 11, 2001 07:17am | #468

            *Great site! any pictures of some creative fences and gates, including driveway gates?

          465. Pro-Dek | Apr 11, 2001 09:17am | #469

            *Tony- here is a couple of shots of my entry gate

          466. Pro-Dek | Apr 11, 2001 09:18am | #470

            *entry gate

          467. Greg_Brown | Apr 11, 2001 11:53am | #471

            *mad dog- lookin good brother- did you do the finish?

          468. Mike_Maines_ | Apr 11, 2001 02:02pm | #472

            *Wine cabinet that borrows space from a closet...

          469. Frank_"Mad_Dog"_Maglin | Apr 11, 2001 03:11pm | #473

            *Greg,No, I'm not doing the finish. The customer is a painting contractor and specializes in glazed faux finishing. I made the cabinet carcases out of birch plywood and the doors and drawer fronts are of #1 brown maple. He first applies a painted lacquer finish (6 coats) then brushes on a stain and finally top coats it. The picture doesn't do it justice it really looks great.Frank

          470. tony_soprano | Apr 11, 2001 07:09pm | #474

            *Beautiful entrances Pro! Are those post caps copper clad? If you can, how did you build your curved top rails?Thanks Tony

          471. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 06:05am | #475

            *the entry railing, same architect

          472. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 06:09am | #476

            *different view

          473. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 06:16am | #477

            *ipe fence under construction, another similar railing in fir and cedar

          474. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 06:19am | #478

            *six feet plus a little in height, almost done today

          475. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 06:28am | #479

            *rolling top rail rabbett fits over ballusters cut to the radius, 1/2" copper dowels everywhere, peened into rivets

          476. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 06:34am | #480

            *naval bronze straps, built up post members with epoxy, continuous top and bottom rails, ballusters in center of fence rest in mortise, on the outside, gravity lets them lay up in a rabbett

          477. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 06:36am | #481

            *three coats of Seafin so far

          478. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 06:44am | #482

            *last one. Built this fence on spec last fall, primarily to keep a guy busy during an off week. It was very fun to see our creation go up

          479. Pro-Dek | Apr 12, 2001 07:04am | #483

            *Nathan-Wow! That is some fancy fence.No wonder I haven't seen you post for awhile.

          480. Pro-Dek | Apr 12, 2001 07:06am | #484

            *Just finished this deck today.

          481. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 07:11am | #485

            *seems like you started that thing last week...??how many young guys you have on your crew? :^)

          482. Pro-Dek | Apr 12, 2001 07:35am | #486

            *Nathan-Just my son and I

          483. Luka_ | Apr 12, 2001 08:01am | #487

            *So where's the fat guy ?b : )

          484. Pro-Dek | Apr 12, 2001 04:48pm | #488

            *Luka-LOL-holdin the camera and crackin the whip.

          485. splintergroupie_ | Apr 12, 2001 06:21pm | #489

            *Nathan, my arms are hurting thinking of all the riveting--how did you do it? One guy with a block and sledge? Two guys from opposite sides? Did you mushroom one head before inserting it in the hole?? Spill...Pro-Dek, sure looks like nice material for a book about decks...makes me ashamed of the boring, squared-off thing i put on the fixer-upper i'm living in. The next house (decks on three sides) will be informed by your work, for sure. Thanks.

          486. nathan_wegemer | Apr 12, 2001 09:29pm | #490

            *This wood is hard, oily, and full of silica. We drilled 1/2 holes for 1/2 copper rod. I thought about drilling 1/32 or 64th over, and would have if I'd had the bit handy. I'm very glad I didn't. The friction helps out in the peening, and the fit needs to be tight enough so that 4-5 moderate blows with a 20 oz hammer are needed to bring it to the other side. De-burr the leading edges of the plug; if their sharp, they'll push a chip off the face of the outside board. This wood doesn't move at all, and fractures somewhat easily when in tension perpundicular to grain. We cut the rods long enough to form a mushroom, we wanted a larger button on the posts, so those were about 5/16 to 3/8 long on each side, pounded into a counter-sink about 5/8 wide and 1/4 deep. The buttons on the rails were so many, that we made them as small as possible, and still suck the rails tight with opposing wedge action, and a little bit more to round over and feather onto the wood surface. No counter sink on the rails, either.Peening was done with two men, one with a 20 lb sledge, and the other with a 32 oz peen. When you shape the end of the rod into cones, they will draw everything just as tight as you want. Enough to easily split a stick with two or three in a row that are driven too tight. We c-clamped tight with a six inch clamp, adjacent to every peen. Begin by driving flush to one side, hold sledge here. Use the flat face to bulge the cone, and then peen to a degree short of your finish shape, which is open to taste. Then drive this button up tight to the board, switch hammers and repeat. We had to pass the hammers back and forth twice to each side to really finish them up well. Sixty three rods, sixteen man hours to cut and peen, $44 of copper with about 5 feet left over. Used around 19 feet of it. We were fortunate that the ipe is very, very forgiving of hammer blows. We left a couple of dings around each button, but they are unnoticeable unless you are 8 inches away and you rub your finger across the wood. One or two may be bit bigger, but all in all not bad. Flawless next time, maybe.

          487. Allyson_Stiles | Apr 12, 2001 11:05pm | #491

            *Since the rain has held us up, I've decided to post some framing pictures until more brick and concrete are finished. I made them smaller for those with 56k connections and less.Billy

          488. splintergroupie_ | Apr 13, 2001 02:46am | #492

            *Great description--i could see it! I'm wondering if the ipe and copper will interact...

          489. tony_soprano | Apr 17, 2001 06:57am | #493

            *Hey Pro,How do you like that DeWalt miter saw and stand? Over in the "Tools" posts there is a "DeWalt Sucks" thread. Maybe you could chime in and give your opinion. What size fasteners do you use with your decking? You don't seem to use any kind of pressure treated pine that you see here in the northeast what is wood of choice?Thanks, Tony

          490. nathan_wegemer | Apr 17, 2001 07:43am | #494

            *hopefully...

          491. Pro-Dek | Apr 17, 2001 08:43am | #495

            *Tony-The Dewalt chop and stand is the best on the market.I own two.I was worried about the partical board table that the saw fastens to delaminating in the rain.It's in the rain all the time and no problems.we have the switches replaced about twice a year but we use the heck out of them too.We use 2 3/8" galvanized ring shank nails in most of out 5/4x4 tk cedar decking applications.Incised pressure treated hem/fir for framing.Thanks for the interest. Bob

          492. nathan_wegemer | Apr 17, 2001 08:50am | #496

            *ProHave you had problems with mildew on your work?We're watching a creeping, spotty black that sits right on the surface and down. Little spots, and some larger areas where it's a complete covering Coming up on the cedar treated with Cabbotts, and the fir treated with Sea-fin.Seems to have appeared in the last two monthsIs also on work that was installed and finished prior to our startIs on the sunny side of the houseCame up on the last pieces of fir installed in about three daysAlso appears to be most prevalent in the splash zones???

          493. Pro-Dek | Apr 17, 2001 04:43pm | #497

            *Nathan- Some of the worst black spotting I've incountered comes from cutting incised pressure treated wood on or around a new deck before the stain.The chemical in the sawdust spots the wood so deep you can't get it out,by sanding or chemical cleaners.That may be the problem. Bob

          494. nathan_wegemer | Apr 18, 2001 04:33am | #498

            *nope, only a couple pt sticks in there, much of the work nowhere near that stuff. good idea, and I'll watch it in the future. thanks

          495. tony_soprano | Apr 18, 2001 05:40am | #499

            *Thanks for the info Pro,Good words in the DeWalt posts, I knew there were a few fans out there. Is yours a 12" slider? A lot of people insist on using stainless fasteners with cedar, I noticed that you use a Hitachi nailer, is lack of availability of stainless, or cost a factor in why you use galvanized. Also your pt hem/fir looks like redwood in your framing photos. It actually looks better than some of our No.1 grade junk. So what type of foundation for your posts do you pefer. Do you use sono tubes with brackets or do you cement the posts directly in the ground 3' down or so. Anyways judging by your photos it appears as though you put a lot of pride in your work, and I must say your work is very impressive. Keep um happy!Sorry for all the questions Thanks Tony

          496. Pro-Dek | Apr 18, 2001 06:05am | #500

            *OK TONY-First question is free- every question after that is $50 bucks each. Where do I send the bill? 1. I use a 12" fixed because it is lighter than the slide,and less likely to be damaged loading and unloading. 2.Stainless ring shank are readily available and I add approximatly $200 if the customer prefers that to hot dipped galvanized. 3.We use a Bostich coil nailer for decking and Hitachi for framing 4.Our incised pressure treated framing has a red treatment rather than green because that is what most the builders here prefer. 5. I have enclosed a picture of our foundation-we dig a hole 1'deep and 2'x2' square, set in a pier block with adjustable saddle and two bags of quickcrete.Now go build a deck! :-) Bob

          497. tony_soprano | Apr 19, 2001 03:48am | #501

            *Bob, Trying to think of some questions for you (just put it on the bill). What area do you live in? Judging by the 1' footer it appears to be west coast. If you had to install a deck foundation in the Northeast, would you change your system? ie. sono tubes, post in ground, pier blocks. Redwood is close to impossible to get here and if you can $$$$, Cedar is a little easier but still $$. How much do you pay for your 5/4 x 4 cedar decking a ft. So sick of the green stuff. It looks cheap and warps big time. But it is strong and dense.(southern yellow pine) Not familiar with this term around here "incised pt" I'll have to send you some N.Y. sausages and peppers. Thanks for the info and replys.Tony

          498. Pro-Dek | Apr 19, 2001 04:54am | #502

            *Tony-Incised means the wood is perforated so the treatment can penatrate the wood to the core.Warranty is 50 years buried in the ground.5/4 x 4 tk cedar goes for $.36 cents a foot here and still my preferance for affordable decking.We use all clear cedar for our benches and railings.The ground around here is mostly rock,not dirt. If I were building Northeast I would probably have to dig to China because of your frostline.Normaly your building department will specify how deep you have to go for certain areas.We do use Sono tubes on steep hillsides, and some have to go 16' in the ground.That takes a pump truck, and the customer pays big time.Oh,I work east of Seattle, in the Cascade foothills. Bob

          499. tony_soprano | Apr 20, 2001 06:15am | #503

            *Bob, Here is todays prices on some cedar and pretty much the only decent supplier.1x6x8 T&G = .74 cents ft.1x6x6 = 2.391x6x8 R/C = 3.885/4x6x8' = 6.885/4x6x10 = 7.755/4x6x12 = 9.355/4x6x14 = 12.455/4x6x16 = 13.00 2x4x8 = 5.192x6x6 = 6.262x6x8 R/C = 7.972x6x10 = 10.462x8x8 = 13.684x4x8 R/C = 9.704x4x10 R/C = 11.706x6x10 = 45.00I believe cedar clapboards run about .78 cents a ft. of course unfinished.That is about the best we can do. No Lowes, Home Depot does not sell any cedar. Redwood forgetaboutit. What price can you get for vg cedar clapboards? Can you get it preprimed? Bear Creek Lumber is shipping supplier available.

  2. Luka_ | Apr 20, 2001 06:15am | #504

    *
    Do you have a project in process right now ? Take some pictures.

    Have pictures of some project you were a part of ? Ice rink, house, swimming pool, deck, patio... Anything at all.

    Did you build a dog house, birdhouse, cabinet, mantelpiece, butcher block ?

    Did you do an exceptional job in a remodel ?

    Did you fix the wiring, plumbing, roof leak, etc, problem from hell ? And durn well, if you do say so yourself...

    Did you find an ingenious way to solve a problem ? Line a fish pond with construction poly. Use a tree for a post.

    Did you build your own masonry fireplace ?

    Did you build the best toolbox, rolling toolbox, portable tablesaw table extender, etc ?

    Please take pictures and post them here. We all want to see.

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