things a carpenter should not do:
1. pick up a shovel.
picked one up last week and my back has been a complete mess since, paralyzed with back spasms for 2 days, and still a mess. tweaked it after 1st shovel full and that was it, had to watch my helper finish the digging while I feebly tried to cut some drain tile.
2. drain tile….. lead to picking up the shovel.
From building boxes and fitting face frames to installing doors and drawers, these techniques could be used for lots of cabinet projects.
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things a carpenter should not do:
Smoke pot before work, during work, at lunch or on break.
Lets see, which story from my past should I tell you? I forgot most of them.
oh that remids me of guy I worked for number of years ago for couple weeks. thought he hired me to "help" him. he was some union carp been doing it for 25 years. " only does "custom" work he says. his claim to fame was carp work on the "Fast Ferries" here in BC that cost the government and tax payers millions, and become a huge white elephant.
this was work on his own house. I ended up doing all the work while he smoked pot all day long. man he was so out of it. went to go get supplies came back said he didn't like the the stuff they had or something like that, said he would go after lunch to this other place. ended up not going to the other place cuz he didn't "feel" like it. went back to the 1st place. ( so ended up taking double the time to get the stuff- cuz he went there twice)
then oh get this....the door was too long so rather then cut the door shorter he had already planed the wood door sill ( very badly - it sort of had a swoop in it). but now wanted me to trim the inside ( where you put a piece of quarter round ) if I recall I think it got left.
I also had made a suggestion of a way to do something that I thought would be a better approach. he was like no way man..so I spent an hour doing it his way...next day he says to redo do it the way I had suggested.
then when I screwed up something, which he had watched me do (I was 3 year apprentice at the time) but didn't see that it was wrong until the end of the job. he tore a strip off me like you wouldn't believe... "that's effing BS" ect... goes on this huge rant.
the list goes on
calls me up down the raod looking for my help again...I'm busy I says.
ditto datSamT
Now if I could just remember that I am a businessman with a hammer and not a craftsman with a business....."anonymous". . .segundo <!----><!---->
Been there, done that.
Glad those days are far behind. Mike
Trust in God, but row away from the rocks.
you sure you never worked for me?
you sure you never worked for me?
Homeboy,
Maybe, memorable projects we framed were the apartments at Winchester and Lamar, and some just like them near Hickory Hill on Winchester in 1972.
The apartments at Colonial and Park in 1975. We used to go to lunch on Mendenhall where they asked you to give them your intitals to call when your order was ready. We laughed as they called initials over the loud speaker we had given them for our orders: LSD, THC, STP, MDA, ect.
We framed lots of homes in Germantown and Cordova 1975 - 1980. Framed in Cordova when the only thing out there was Walnut Grove Estates, and only a few homes in that subdivision. We also framed in Countrywood when it was first in development.
I did not make much money in those daze, and most of it was "up in smoke" before the next paycheck.
At night, we spent lots of time on the Highland Strip, Overton Square, and our favorite place was the High Cotton on Cooper. Going to the Taco Bell on Poplar near McLean at 2:00 AM, becasue of the munchies, was a regular routine.
We used to attend lots of concerts at the Overton Park Shell. I was two seats off the cover shot for the Trapeze album "You Are the Music, We're Just the Band". The pic of the crowd was taken from behind the drummer and band.
I had to go back to the Shell years later and check out the size of the bathroom, because once upon a time during a concert (it may have been Buddy Miles, maybe Ted Nugent) and being chemically medicated, I experienced a bathroom there that was as big as a bowling alley, underground and had a black and white checkerboard floor. Checking back years later, I found no such bathroom.
Edited 12/23/2006 2:30 pm ET by txlandlord
Edited 12/27/2006 2:31 pm ET by txlandlord
Tx, we must have come from the same generation LOL!
blue
Were those the good ole daze? I think we lived by the recently trendy "No Fear" rule, but had no formalized slogan.
I do remember one German word we used that I later saw on a bumper sticker. We were "fukengruven".
Edited 12/27/2006 2:51 pm ET by txlandlord
The tool that a carpenter uses to dig a hole is called a "laborer".
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~ Voltaire
yes....my labourer helping me at the time, was my father in law.
felt bad watching him do all the digging himself....hope I still get to come for Christmas dinner.
A GOOD CRAFTSMAN KNOWS ALL PHASES OF CONST. AND THAT INCLUDES THE PROPER USE OF A SHOVEL. FROM THE GROUND UP UNLESS U ARE A SPECIALITY PERSON WHICH ONLY KNOWS CERTAIN ASPECTS OF CONST.
I disagree. A good craftsman does not need to know all phases. A big percentage of the folks here at BT are specialized. It is often dictated by simply division of labor that is a must in most businesses.That said, most here including me, have spent many hours/days with a shovel.
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~ Voltaire
Hire a laborer with a degree in structural engineering who wants to learn "the Real World Way" of doing things.
Posted an ad for a laborer. Hired an architectural student from the university who wanted to "learn residential construction from the ground up". We had a small pour in the back of the house. One pallet of quickcrete. We broke for lunch-he never made it back.
Bruce
2 weeks ago the structural engineer on my job showed up and said " i'm slow this week, what can i do to help?" and then proceeded to do a couple concrete patches, scrap up, and sweep the place." granted, hes friends with the HO, but still pretty amazing eh?
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Five years ago when i was in BC i picked up some OTC pain meds called "Parafon Forte" (chlorzoxazone) which are prescription meds this side of the border. I used to have bad back problems then and these were very effective. They don't seem to work on any pain but back pain, but they sure helped me get through some rough patches until i healed up.
I was on those as a teen when I blew out a trapezoid in my back. They are good. But IIRC, it is a muscle relaxer, not a pain killer.
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I have irriatable Vowel syndrome.
Relaxing the muscle gives pain relief, no? I guess it also works on different people in different ways. I didn't have any adverse affects from using it, but i gave some to a friend who used half as much and got too loopy to drive. I was previously prescribed Flexeril, a *stronger* muscle relaxant with more side-effects, which did zilch for my back.
A guy that works with me got a pile of the flexaril and knocked him self out promptly. Never did a thing for me.
Yeah, relaxing a muscle will help with the pain, but if that is not the reason for the pain, all ya have are relaxed muscles..LOL.
My neck was a funky disc, NOTHING helped..except that goofy traction bag. Once that part was stretched, everything else fell back in place.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I have irriatable Vowel syndrome.
I was on flexerel for awhile. It was like candy, didnt do a thing for me either. of course they gave me that when I could barely walk (fragmented disc), and recently (now that i'm not in so much pain) they gave me fiornal. That stuff would drop a charging buffalo! I had to return it, they gave me back my Vicodin.
things a carpenter should not do:
well around here... this is the short list...
1. speak english
2. if he speaks english... he can and has done everything but he can't operate a tape measure or a level
3. show up on time... (the non english speaking ones do)
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Glad I don't live were you do!
Around here your carpenters , we call Cockroaches!
3 for a Dollar down at the Local Home Depot!
But I can use a shovel all day long but pick up a hammer and I have tennis elbow in two hours. also God does not want me working on a ladder. Everytime I do, he keep throwing my tools on the ground.
you should quit using yer hammer to play tennis :)
>>also God does not want me working on a ladder. Everytime I do, he keep throwing my tools on the ground.
Better them, than you.... :-)
Dave
The funney thing using GOD in construction is. HE was a CRAFTSMAN himself and he only sent 2 carpenters to HELL and that was for MIXING NAILS
Things a carpenter should not do:
...hire a roofer to tile a kitchen...
...never, ever hire a hair dresser, for any reason, no matter how down on his luck they may be...
...travel to install a small storage shed to a remote area figgerin "aw hell...there is sure to be power there...
it's ok to think you're as old as you once were...just so long as you don't try to prove it...
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