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Thinking about a shower with no door

Johnny1985489 | Posted in General Discussion on October 5, 2005 05:29am

Any of you pros built one? I’m considering building a tile shower with no door but wondering how much space I would need for it to work ok. I’ve seen L shaped showers like this but I cannot find much info on dimensions. I have a a maximum of 5′ x 7′ to work with but would prefer to go a little smaller if possible. Any thoughts?

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  1. BryanSayer | Oct 05, 2005 05:59pm | #1

    I did mine with no door. I took the full width of the room (6 feet) and the depth is a bit less than 3 feet, probably about 33" or so. The doorway is on the left, and the shower heads on the right.

    In part it depends on shower head placement, and does it matter if the floor gets wet? You might also want to consider a rain head, as it does not spray water around as much.

    Mine seems to work fine, and I get lots of compliments on the design.

    This seems to be the only picture I have handy.

    1. Johnny1985489 | Oct 05, 2005 06:03pm | #2

      that looks really nice. How high is the step? do you get much water outside of the shower?

      1. BryanSayer | Oct 05, 2005 11:02pm | #5

        The shower floor is about 2" of mortar maybe a bit more. I think the curb is 2X6 (plus the tile) but it might be 2X8. If I remember I'll measure when I get home.There are two shower heads, one on the wall to right (fixed) and one on the wall behind the sink which is a hand held unit. There was supposed to be a third one (rain head) but I went out of town when the plumber came (grrrr.... It is on the GD plans!). But truthfully, I'm not sure that would have worked here that well. Anyway, if my wife starts swinging the handheld around, the floor gets a little water. But mostly it is from stepping out of the shower, not blow by from the heads. The fixed head is a fairly gentle spray.

    2. DavidThomas | Oct 06, 2005 09:21pm | #17

      Mine is a similar layout, 6' x 3', but I used a bath tub.  So you have to step into the bathtub, but it provides 1) better splatter retention and 2) (of course) a bathtub.

      Enter (over the bath tub lip) on the left, about 32 wide.  Shower head is in the middle, above your right shoulder as you enter, pointed further to the right.

      Whole area in the stall is tiled to 7 feet.  The half wall is braced to the main wall at its furtherest point.  (a 2x4 which was tiled.)

      Works well.  No moldy shower curtain.  Takes up no more floor space than a generous sized tub.  Can switch bath to shower without going anywhere (handy with young kids).

      A really long shower will result in some drops on the floor (which is tile), maybe an 1/8 cup total.  A bath mat there would easily soak it up.

      Without the height of the bath as a lip, I'd have made it one foot deeper and added a 1-foot spur to the half wall (think of the letter "G" squared off).David Thomas   Overlooking Cook Inlet in Kenai, Alaska

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    CapnMac | Oct 05, 2005 06:05pm | #3

    Yeah, what Bryan said, go with lower 'velocity' shower head(s), and carefully consider the placement.  3' x 6' (inside) with a 30" door opening will work, but there will be some dampness with a typical shower head.  Using a shower unit on a hose can help too, as they are less likely to get 'aimed' (by accident or design) at the back wall.

    Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
  3. CAGIV | Oct 05, 2005 08:58pm | #4

    Is the rest of the bathroom finished?  finish floor in?

    If it is not, one option would be a curbless & doorless shower by installing a pan to the entire bathroom floor, a mildly expensive option though.  At that point it does not matter if the water makes it outside the confines of the shower.

     

     

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    1. BryanSayer | Oct 05, 2005 11:04pm | #6

      I did this too, on the third floor bath. We have a shower ring there though. That bath is really narrow. I've heard this is common in Europe, but you have to remember to remove the toilet paper before you shower!If you search, I have some pictures of that bath up here if you want to see. The extra cost is for the mud job for the floor, presuming you were going to tile anyway.

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    Sailfish | Oct 06, 2005 01:01am | #7

    we just built ours. It's 5x7 no door, and will be all tiled. It was a 6" stepdown as well. I don't have pics yet, its just framed out

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    WWPD

    1. Johnny1985489 | Oct 06, 2005 01:11am | #8

      Sailfish? Any chance I can see the framed pics? This shower is for a house that has not been built yet so I would love to see how you framed it if possible since I am doing all this myself. Basically I have a space of 5x10 that only needs to house a shower and a toilet. I need to decide soon how I wanna do this as the foundation should be going in within a couple weeks.

  5. Scooter1 | Oct 06, 2005 01:16am | #9

    Most of my customers what multiple heads high flow heads without flow restrictors spraying water all over the place, so doorless is not an option. I like the look of a half inch plate glass framless door.

    Regards,

    Scooter

    "I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow." WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934

    1. Sbds | Oct 06, 2005 03:07am | #10

      Check out this loft in New York Cityhttp://www.garysloft.com/lofts_2/index.php?mode=view&album=2nd_Floor&pic=2nd_Floor14.JPG&dispsize=640&start=0&locscout=f124f4ad5a5d77d95bc376abd91d933ahttp://www.garysloft.com/lofts_2/index.php?mode=view&album=2nd_Floor&pic=2nd_Floor17.JPG&dispsize=640&start=0&locscout=f124f4ad5a5d77d95bc376abd91d933a

      1. rez | Oct 06, 2005 03:21am | #11

        You know these folks?

        Got to wondering what they put on the upper brick to get the gloss in this pic. An epoxy maybe?

        View Image

        We all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper.   - Albert Einstein 

        1. IdahoDon | Oct 06, 2005 05:53am | #12

          This may sound strange, but there is a sure-fire way to determine what you need.  Simply hook up the shower head you are going to use to a hose outside and see how much splatter you get on any suitable hard flat surface.  I'd go so far as screwing together a few plywood "walls" to check the exact angles and sizes.  If the neighbors weren't watching I'd put on some raingear and see what happens with a body under the water stream.  Like I said it sounds strange, but with so much expense involved in a new tiled shower, it's a small price to pay for a perfectly working design. 

          Alone the same lines, if someone wants lights in a kitchen or anywhere the light needs to be carefully aimed I'll hook up a few on cords and from a ladder determine exactly what pattern works for the way the owner uses the space with the exact lights.  Plywood mockups of all sorts of things have saved a lot of rework and gives the owners something visual to help with their decisions. 

          :-)

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          JeffBuck | Oct 06, 2005 06:18am | #13

          that's not brick ... (doesn't look to be, I should say)

          that's ceramic tile set in a running bond pattern.

           

          Jeff    Buck Construction

           Artistry In Carpentry

               Pittsburgh Pa

          1. rez | Oct 06, 2005 07:00pm | #15

            Well ya, now that you mention it. No noticable imperfections or brick chips anywhere. Man, that's alot of tile tho'.

            What are those narrow verticle runs up near the sides of the windows?

            Makes me think the window top arches are covered in ceramic.

            We all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper.   - Albert Einstein 

            Edited 10/6/2005 3:47 pm ET by rez

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            JeffBuck | Oct 09, 2005 06:16am | #19

            "What are those narrow verticle runs up near the sides of the windows?"

             

            looks to be just a nice trim tile ... aka ... profile tile.

            went back and took a close look at both pics ...

            that is one fantastic looking job ....

            I still think is it all tile. Might be some sorta paint or sprayed glazing over brick ... but I'm thinking it's just a really nice tile job.

             

            I didn't open both links till now ... just saw the pic U opened and pasted.

            saved them both for "customer ideas" ... I'd love to sell something similar!

            Jeff

             

             

                 Buck Construction

             Artistry In Carpentry

                 Pittsburgh Pa

          3. piko | Oct 09, 2005 07:27am | #20

            "What are those narrow verticle runs up near the sides of the windows?"

            Pilasters.All the best...

            To those who know - this may be obvious. To those who don't - I hope I've helped.

             

          4. piko | Oct 09, 2005 07:36am | #21

            What are those narrow verticle runs up near the sides of the windows?pilastersAll the best...

            To those who know - this may be obvious. To those who don't - I hope I've helped.

             

        3. Sbds | Oct 06, 2005 09:00pm | #16

          No one lives there. The loft was built for photo shoots.Go to there web site and you can e-mail him.http://www.garysloft.com/

  6. TRIGGER | Oct 06, 2005 07:19am | #14

    Try a site that shows amenities for wheelchair bound individuals.

  7. davidmeiland | Oct 06, 2005 10:55pm | #18

    Here's one I did. Room is 68" wide and the shower is 36' deep. You can see both heads in the top of the photo. Very little water spray out the door, usually none. Highly recommended.

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