Hi All
I made a mistake with my tile job and wondered if you had a suggestion I may not have thought of. I placed an 8 x 10 wall tile, thinset onto durock and later discovered I should have cut it to allow for bullnose tile. Luckily there is only one tile and not a column of them. So my question is how to remedy the situation. The tile is firmly set, thinset is dry. I wonder if I can cut it with either a circular saw with a masonry blade, or a dremel tool. I have no problem removing the tile all together, but I’m not sure how easy it will be to clean the surface of the cement board, and figured the less I have to clean the more likely I’ll be successful. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Kevin
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I'd recommend cutting the grout around the tile, if you have already grouted, and breaking out the old tile. The thinset will not be that hard to remove from the Durock. Much easier to cut an new tile than to cut the old one in place, not to mention the dust.
Let's not confuse the issue with facts!
no grout yet, and would gladly sacrifice the tile. wasn't sure thinset would come off cement board easily.
I had to do this once and tried to break the tile. Turned out the weakest link in the chain was the durock, big chunks of it were coming off with the tile and thinset. But I patched the holes with thinset and tiled over it.
Cut the body of the tile with a diamond blade if you have room for it. then under cut using the Fein Multi tool. If you just recently set it, you may be able to just pop off the tile. Patch the durock voids with a little thinset and then you are good to go.
that's what I'm afraid of. I think I'll try the dremel, worse case scenario I end up taking the whole tile off anyway.
What gdcarpenter said.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
pop it ...
the quicker the better.
I use a shark-something or other ... japanese pry bar.
has a little nail pulling cat's paw head ... and a nice wide/flat curved pry bar end.
Sears sells them now ... about 6 or 8" long.
tap tap tap the corner of the prybar maybe 1/3rd in from a corner ... tap tap tap ...
usually pops any "pop-ible" tiles. Depending on conditions and TSet used ... even a coupla days can go by and you'll still get a successful pop. Most definitely next day service.
and ... it'll either pop or crack ... so just bust it outta there ... and scrape all the TSet ridges flat as can be ... I use an old 1" wide chisel ... then either backbutter the new piece ... or ... preferably ... use a small similar notched trowel and trowel a new layer on.
I prefer to trowel again ... as I tend to set the tiles proud of the existing when I backbutter.
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
did as you said. came off pretty easy, the thinset behind the tile was still damp, cleaned up really nice. start again tomorrow, thanks all for the help.
Kevin
man ... yer quick!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
JeffYour all over this board! I've been reading other messages and you keep popping up. Makes me wonder, do you "hunt and peck" the keyboard, or do you know how to type? If yes, how and when did you learn?
KevinPS just read my post and sounds like I'm being sarcastic, I'm not. I don't know how to type so I have been thinking of buying a "teach yourself typing" program.
Edited 5/2/2006 10:38 pm ET by dockelly
they don't work...
I can prove it..Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Don't worry, I took an ENTIRE YEAR of typing in high school. Manual typewriter. By the end of the year, I was up to the blazing speed of...24 words per minute!I got a C in the class. I think you had to get to 48 to get an A.The girl beside me was doing 60 plus.
I do 4 or 5wpm....Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Guess I'll continue the "tile-setting" to "typing" hijack here.
I've worked in a couple newspaper newsrooms, and was always amazed at how many reporters and editors can't "touch type." They have to look at the keyboard, using maybe two fingers from each hand. These are folks who knew they were going to type for a living!
Nowadays, the schools teach typing in grade school. They spend a little time with printing and cursive, then go right to the keyboard ... at least in my kids' school district.
The two most useful classes I took in high school were four semesters of mechanical drawing, and one semester of typing. Managed 40wpm in high school, and have maintained that. That one little skill has saved many HOURS over a lifetime. I still have to look at the keyboard for numbers and symbols, though ... should've taken TWO semesters of typing!
Allen
Edited 5/4/2006 8:07 am ET by WNYguy
I still look for number and symbols too, and I did take the two semesters!Plus, I'm a statistician. You'd think I'd know where the numbers are, at least plus or minus 2.5%...
I knew nothing about typing till I got the first computer ...
shortly there after I found this place.
been ... maybe 6 or 8 yrs?
anyways ... I hunt and peck ... kinda ... I taught myself. My wife can't stand to watch ... but she'll admit my "self taught method" is quite effective ... for me.
Pretty much "middle fingers" ... with some thumbs , fore and ring fingers thrown in.
I gotta half-start at the keyboard to compose these masterpieces!
not bad for a drummer ... maybe I'll pick up a guitar?
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I call it 'Eagle' typing - circle and strike.Let's not confuse the issue with facts!
I'm the same. When I see my secretaries type, I think I should learn, sure would save time in the long run. Thanks for the tile help. Calling it a night, no need to reply.Kevin
Dang,you use that many fingers? you are good, and havent made too many mistakes on the table saw.
Speakin' o' that, I took my 8-yr old daughter for her first ride in a manual-transmissioned car.
She watched closely and said, "dady, was this car designed for aliens? It has five things to do and you only have four limbs"
LOL, the sweetie!
Forrest
They do work.
I used a program called Mavis Bacon teaches Typing. My computer programer buddy gave it to me a couple of years back.
I spent one month at about 10 to 20 minutes a day for that month. At the end of the month I could type about 20-25 wpm. from there on it's just a matter of continuing to practice the format. It makes it so much easier! Knowing the keyboard and symbols.
It was a very early program- like # 2 and last time I looked it was like #9. It a small time investment to get a great return- now if I could just spll. But spell check helps.Or get to use your word processing program and it can self correct.
I've got that same Mavis CD - I'll have to finally try it, now that you had success with it.
Forrest
Since this is a tile thread I'll keep on subject.
So you get done with a week or two of tiling and realize why you just want to do it on a per project basis. IE. your fingers are cracking and splitting from the water and cement. So you decide this is the best excuse to lay low and let your fingers heal.
And what do you propose to fill the time with----typing class.
See fingers feel better already.