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tile replacement

| Posted in General Discussion on September 16, 2002 05:20am

I have four 12×12 tiles that have seemed to have worked loose and the grout is cracking.  The install was done on backer board, and the tiles in question have been replaced with along side another row because of high spots originally.  When they were replace by the contractor, he used “speedset” to replace them.  Apparently, the speedset filmed over, because the tiles lift up with nothing on them and the speedset is on the backerboard and I can read made in Mexico from the back of the tile on the speedset.  It is extremely hard to remove so that I can replace the tiles.  Are there any suggestions that I could use to help me remove the cured speedset cement?  I am afraid that if I hit the cured speedset with a mason chisel too hard, I could unbond the adjacent tiles.  Any suggestions?

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  1. heck22 | Sep 16, 2002 03:30pm | #1

    JT,.........this will be very dusty....Put a masonry wheel in a 4" grinder,and use a sharp scraper for the corners and edges.

    If you unbond adjacent tile,then they were not correctly installed either, and need to be re-bonded as well.

    Have your contractor do the repair,and do it correctly this time.

    Luck,jw

    what the heck
    was I thinking?

    1. jonthayer | Sep 16, 2002 04:16pm | #2

      There is no longer a contractor.  He gave me refund and said If I cashed the check, he was released from all liability.  Check has been cashed because he had been back out 4 times and started not responding to my calls.  He'd show up and leave.  He'd leave His son-in-law to do the work.  The contractor is reputable....(I was told this by numerous people).  Highly recommended, but he didn't do the work and now he's retiring.  His son-in-law in no longer employed.  To make a long story short, I have to do the repair.  I got a free tile floor with lots of problems.  Right now I can't afford to replace it.  And I know that everything will have to be torn down to the original subfloor, and that scares me.  The refund money went to the kids school and we are trying to  make the floor last a couple years.  It's been in 1 year now.  I thought I could pop the tiles that were loose and re-set with thin-set and re-grout.  A couple more years life.  The local mega-hardware store says anyone can tile!  There are good areas and bad areas.  A lot of the grout cracks were covered with a caulk (TEC accucolor)  that would move?.?.  That is what he said.  It was a different color and now it is coming up in places.  Approx. 50 % of the floor is sound.  It is the other 50% that is bad in high traffic areas.  Oh well...enough of the bitchin'...  thanks for your advice.  I wish there was a non dusty way........

      1. calvin | Sep 16, 2002 04:59pm | #3

        Tough break JT.  If you do the repair as suggested, be sure to not locate any cement board seams where a tile seam will be.  Stagger any repairs to the cement board away from the finished grout lines.....and pray.__________________________________________

        Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

        http://www.quittintime.com/

         

  2. Scooter1 | Sep 16, 2002 06:49pm | #4

    To replace tile:

    1. Use a sharpened punch or dremel tool with a bit width slightly less than your grout line. Scrape or drill the stuff out down to the backer board.

    2. Use a tack remover or small pry bar to pry off the tile and pop it loose.

    3. Use the dremel tool, with a 1/4" cutter at low speed to grind off the mortar. Take it down to the CBU.

    4. Use traditional thinset to set tiles. Apply it to the back of the tile and mush it into place. After about an hour or two, scrape out the grout joints.

    5. Re-grout as usual.

    Regards,

    Boris

    "Sir, I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow" -- WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1927

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