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timer switch for exhaust fan

bigbossman | Posted in General Discussion on June 28, 2007 02:20am

Does anyone know if I also need a regular switch in the line with a timer to run a timer on my exhaust fan that I want to install in my bathroom?

Also when dealing with a main box for the apartment that is in the bathroom ceiling do I have to have access to it  or can I cover it with the new drywall since I will be only running one new line for the shower lights and the canisters I want to cover uo the original light function box since I wont be needed it.  Opinions? 

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    BillHartmann | Jun 28, 2007 03:01am | #1

    No you don't need a separate switch.

    "Also when dealing with a main box for the apartment that is in the bathroom ceiling "

    You have an APARMENT in your bathroom ceiling?

    When I see "main box" I think of the main electrical breaker panel, but that can't be.

    I don't know what kind of box that you have.

    But if it is still in use and has junctions in it then you need to be able to acess it with nothing more than a screwdriver.

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    A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
  2. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Jun 28, 2007 03:55am | #2

    I put a wind up timer made by Intermatic in my last bath remodel, installed it directly over the TP holder.   I started from a nearby outlet, ran over to the new box, through the timer wiring and then up to the fan.  No problem.



    Edited 6/27/2007 8:58 pm ET by Hudson Valley Carpenter

    1. IdahoDon | Jun 28, 2007 04:48am | #3

      A bath fan can be operated by multiple timer switches, as when using a single remote fan with multiple bathrooms, but also a timer can be placed next to the crapper as well as next to swiches near the door.  If either is turned on the fan blows.

      This is also how humidistats are wired alongside timers.  Either can provide power to the fan.

      Along the same lines, a remote switch, perhaps a programable gizmo, can be used to turn the fans on from a remote location, as when bath vents are used to keep up the number of air exchanges to prevent musty smells. 

      Beer was created so carpenters wouldn't rule the world.

      1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Jun 28, 2007 05:36am | #4

        That's all worthwhile information Don, but the original question was whether a separate switch was required, in line with the timer.  The simple answer is...no. 

        I tossed in the suggestion about locating the timer above the TP because it's about as perfect a spot as can be found.

        1. IdahoDon | Jun 28, 2007 05:38am | #5

          Ooops, I don't think I intended to post that to you, but I liked your timer location so much that it drew my post like gravity.  :-) 

          Beer was created so carpenters wouldn't rule the world.

          1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Jun 28, 2007 08:57am | #6

            Nice recovery. ;-)

    2. mrsludge | Jun 28, 2007 06:09pm | #7

      I had one of the programmable Intermatic switches on the heater part of a Panasonic WhisperWarm. My intention was to be able to switch it on to warm up the bathroom in advance of the wintertime weekday morning shower.

      Don't know if it was just that one, but it perpetually went through batteries in a couple of weeks. And it seemed to depend on them to operate the switch. The only other one of these that I've seen got more run time on a battery, but only a month or two.

      I returned it and need to get a Leviton 10-15-30-60 minute timer switch for that function. Already have these on all of the exhaust fans (well, 5-10-15-30 minute version).

      1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Jun 28, 2007 06:36pm | #8

        I returned it and need to get a Leviton 10-15-30-60 minute timer switch for that function. Already have these on all of the exhaust fans (well, 5-10-15-30 minute version).

         

        They're both the same basic wind-up timer, like an egg timer...just no bell.  Hey, maybe that would be a new wrinkle for them, a bell.  They could use the slogan, "When you hear the bell, there ain't no smell".  ;-)

        Thanks for the warning about the battery operated device.  I'll avoid that one.

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          BillHartmann | Jun 28, 2007 06:55pm | #9

          Except those are wind-up timers.http://www.levitonproducts.com/catalog/model_6230M.htm?sid=7E80F3CAE47E09CCCE164EE25B9E5C7C&pid=1208
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          A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.

        2. mrsludge | Jun 28, 2007 07:00pm | #10

          Actually, it's a bit slicker than windup:

          http://www.smarthome.com/4254w.html

          1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Jun 28, 2007 07:11pm | #11

            OK you guys, but my wind-up was $11.99 at HD.  Only had two wa-urs on it too, buckeroo.  Slicker-n-snot on a door knob.

            none o' them new-fangled geegaws fer me, no sir...

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    Terry | Jun 29, 2007 01:29am | #12

    Rather than the timer switch for the bathroom fan, I tried to use a motion sensor wall switch.  The switch would sense the presence of a hot body and then time off some preset number of minutes after the person left.

    Unfortunately, the switch would cycle back on when the fan stopped.  I was never sure whether this was because of warm air "falling" out of the fan in the ceiling or whether it was due to inductive kickback from the fan turning off.  The motion switch I was using was one of the Heath / Zenith brand.

    Does anyone know of a motion switch for an interior electrical box that is rated for a motor such as that found in the typical ceiling mounted bathroom fan?

    Terry

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