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Tinted mud setting additive…

Ted W. | Posted in General Discussion on May 14, 2009 08:40am

I’ve seen where the tapers were using tinted mud and I think they used an additive in the first couple of coats to force it to set. Anybody know about this stuff?

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  1. splintergroupie | May 14, 2009 08:48am | #1

    I don't know about tinted mud, but i've seen tinted plaster. It's dyed instead of being painted later.

    The other product you might be looking at is "setting mud", "quick set" or "hot mud". It's made by several manufacturers and formulated to set over a variety of times, which can be furher tweaked depending on the temp of the water you use and the ambient temperature.

    http://www.drywallschool.com/mud.htm

  2. splintergroupie | May 14, 2009 08:51am | #2

    PS: There's also a faux finish called "Venetian plaster" that's a bit of a hybrid of the fore-going.

    http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/lv_faux_finishing/article/0,2041,DIY_14109_2278252,00.html

  3. Howard_Burt | May 14, 2009 08:55am | #3

    All the tinted mud I've seen has been topping mud, so they can see where they have been.

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      Ted W. | May 14, 2009 09:14am | #4

      Exactly that

      But I recall an additive that will force it to set. Kind of like you would use an excellerator for concrete or mortar.

      Actually, they may have just added excellerator to regular mud. Would that force it to set?~ Ted W ~

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      1. mikerooney | May 14, 2009 09:35am | #5

        This is what I've always used.
        http://www.usg.com/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/prod_details/Structo-Gauge_Gauging_Plaster-page.htmAs far as tint - a couple drops of this.
        http://www.mccormick.com/Products/Extracts-and-Food-Colors/Food-Colors/Assorted-Food-Colors-and-Egg-Dye.aspx__________________________________________________http://tinyurl.com/ce6anmhttp://tinyurl.com/dft9ba

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          Ted W. | May 14, 2009 09:53am | #6

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          1. FNbenthayer | May 14, 2009 12:13pm | #7

            I've never seen a liquid accelerator for bucket mud. JLC has a drywall forum, you're more likely to get a definitive answer over there. Adding a little plaster or EZ 20 works, but always begs the question; why not use straight setting mud or POP in the first place? A bit of blue chalk works for highlighting.A heat gun works in a pinch as well.Jim 

             

             

             

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          2. craigf | May 14, 2009 03:41pm | #9

            Yeah, I get it. My lumberyard has a small plastic container of "accelerator" which can be added to plaster or premixed joint compound.I can't remember the brand name. It was pointed out to me as an alternative to setting compound, but I've never used it, deciding to stick with what I'm used to.I don't know if it adds a tint.If one of the stripped out cogs in my brain accidently catches a tooth and I remember or I go to the LY, I'll post back to you.

          3. craigf | May 14, 2009 08:40pm | #10

            I think this is it. The label doesn't say anything about joint compound. That's why I was leary of it.http://www.nationalgypsum.com/products/product65.aspx

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        Huck | May 14, 2009 03:33pm | #8

        Tapers here regularly "spike" their mud with "hot mud" (meaning setting compound).   Mix in some  90 minute setting compound, and it will accellerate the whole bucket.  Play around with ratios.  Use mud and setting compound from same manufacterer."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn

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  4. [email protected] | May 15, 2009 04:40am | #11

    I've seen mud with a set indicator added, that goes on pink, and changes to white when it sets. Could that be what you saw?

    US Gypsum markets an accelerant that can be added to the mud.



    Edited 5/14/2009 9:44 pm ET by Jigs-n-fixtures

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