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toilet tank distance from wall

rez | Posted in General Discussion on November 4, 2006 07:40am

Tank back is 4 inches from wall.

I’m supposing I could get an offset flange to move it back some but rather not mess with it in that there is presently enough space all around and could brace the tank for an inadverent lean back from a heavysitter.

But could fix it for a better overall fit.

Looking for opinions on the matter.

Thanks

when in doubt add garlic


Edited 11/4/2006 12:43 pm ET by rez

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  1. davidmeiland | Nov 04, 2006 07:48pm | #1

    Get a toilet for a 14" rough-in... assuming you now have a 12.

    You could also add 7 layers of 1/2" rock to the wall.

    1. woodway | Nov 04, 2006 10:54pm | #6

      Seven layers of rock sounds like a winner to me. Could you send pictures when it's done?

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    BillHartmann | Nov 04, 2006 07:49pm | #2

    What is the setback of the flange and what is the setback on the toilet.

    Most common is 12".

    But there are 14 and 10" toilet available. IIRC OLDER installations used 14".

    1. rez | Nov 04, 2006 07:56pm | #3

      The tank is 4" from the wall with plenty of distance for the flange to be moved but exact dimensions arent here now.

      Already have a dualflush john and I'm not getting another.

       Was concerned over the 4inches from wall as opposed to a 1/2 or 1" is all.

      Thankswhen in doubt add garlic

      1. Piffin | Nov 04, 2006 10:54pm | #5

        There is an advantage to having the space. you ever see what can grow behind a tank? I have also seen some neat soppcoing blocks made to steady the tank that had a top like for dollies and perfumes or whatever. 

         

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      2. Piffin | Nov 04, 2006 10:54pm | #7

        I wonder how ya spell doily?doy-lee? 

         

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  3. DanH | Nov 04, 2006 09:01pm | #4

    You can always build out the wall, if you feel it's important.

    FWIW the tank of our downstairs toilet is 3.75" from the wall and has been that way for 30 years (since new). Shower drain and valve were also offset a similar amount, suggesting that the plumber and the framer weren't looking at the same drawings (if they were looking at drawings at all).

    Better too far than too close.

    Seven blunders of the world that lead to violence: wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, worship without sacrifice, politics without principle. --Mahatma Gandhi
  4. DonK | Nov 04, 2006 11:13pm | #8

    Like they said, you could get a different bowl, or build the wall out behind the bowl. Sounds like a 2x4 with 1/2" rock would work. If you do it 3 or 4 foot high, you could make an architectural statement with it and have a shelf on the top.

    Another option would be to move the bowl. Don't know what kind of plumbing you have or if it's accessible from below, but it's not too hard, if it's plastic pipe.  If you have a lead bend, it's more of a PITA, like call a plumber and let him be bothered.

    Don K.

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  5. plumbbill | Nov 04, 2006 11:37pm | #9

    Those portable boat air horns are about 4" tall.

    You could glue one to the wall so if someone leans back to hard everyone on the block will know.

    “It so happens that everything that is stupid is not unconstitutional.” —Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

    1. rez | Nov 05, 2006 04:37am | #10

      heh heh

       Guess I was just looking for someone to say don't bother with it and there's more pressing matters to attend to.

      Ya, was thinking of an added shelf deal stabilizing on top of the tank lid.

      Thanks all.

       

      be it's all alright cause it ain't the taj mahal

      when in doubt add garlic

      Edited 11/4/2006 11:03 pm ET by rez

      1. DanH | Nov 05, 2006 05:09am | #11

        The important thing, when the tank is not tight against a wall, is to make sure it's properly shimmed so it doesn't rock when you lean against it. Often this requires adding extra rubber baby buggy bumpers between the tank and the bowl, over and above what instructions call for.In general there should be four rubber bumpers, as close as possible to the four corners of the rectangle described by the tank overlapping the back of the bowl. The tank bolts should snug up these bumpers slightly, but not come close to smashing them flat.
        Seven blunders of the world that lead to violence: wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, worship without sacrifice, politics without principle. --Mahatma Gandhi

      2. Pierre1 | Nov 05, 2006 10:24am | #18

        More pressing matter eh? lol 

    2. oldbeachbum | Nov 05, 2006 07:42am | #14

      ...and scare the what (?) out of them!   :0)...The unspoken word is capital. We can invest it or we can squander it.  -Mark Twain...

      1. plumbbill | Nov 05, 2006 09:09am | #15

        You got it.

        We put a Toto washlet sj 3000 bidet seat with remote control in Ichiros' condo.

        It has front wash rear wash rear heavy wash warmer  dryer & perfume spray.

        They wouldn't let us mount the remote control, the gc told us the condo owner will mount the remote, we went yeah sure he's gonna mount it.

        UH HUH, he's gonna sit in the living room & somone is gonna ask where's the bathroom. He will tell them go ahead & use that one, we know he's gonna start pushin buttons from the living room.“It so happens that everything that is stupid is not unconstitutional.” —Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

    3. Piffin | Nov 05, 2006 02:46pm | #19

      boy, that'd scare the sh1t out of a guy! 

       

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      1. highfigh | Nov 05, 2006 03:21pm | #21

        What better place for someone to have the fertilizer scared out of them?
        "I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

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    AaronRosenthal | Nov 05, 2006 06:55am | #12

    You are a lucky man.
    It's my job to clean behind the toilet. 4" sounds like heaven.
    Put a rubber bumper back there if you need to.

    Quality repairs for your home.

    AaronR Construction
    Vancouver, Canada

     

    1. rez | Nov 05, 2006 09:47am | #17

      ya, I'm thinking that extra 4 inches will make it harder for all the young nephews to splatter pee on the wall:o)when in doubt add garlic

      1. oldbeachbum | Nov 05, 2006 09:13pm | #22

        See the other thread in the Tav...."time to sight in".   Think they can become "sitters" or do they move too fast?  ;)...The unspoken word is capital. We can invest it or we can squander it.  -Mark Twain...

  7. JohnT8 | Nov 05, 2006 07:00am | #13

    tut tut tut... you'll never make the pages of a redneck FWD unless you get your thinking straight.

    Imagine if you will a short section of 2x4 screwed or nailed to the wall.  Gives you around 3.5", which closes the gap to about 1/2".  BUT we're not finished!  You put those little coffee cup screw-on hook on the underside of the 2x4.  Then you can hang the toilet brush, plunger... whatever!  Drill a hole through the 2x4 and you've got a place to stick some fake flowers in.  I'm thinking you could rig something off the ends of the 2x4 to hold spare rolls of TP, maybe a magazine rack on one side.

     

     

     

     

    :)

     

    jt8

    "Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

    1. rez | Nov 05, 2006 09:46am | #16

      ya, and I could stick a plastic pink flamingo in there.

       

      be the return of kitschwhen in doubt add garlic

      1. highfigh | Nov 05, 2006 03:21pm | #20

        "ya, and I could stick a plastic pink flamingo in there."You better move fast on that one- the plant where the flamingos are made has closed. Maybe you can get a good deal on the molds."I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

        Edited 11/5/2006 7:22 am by highfigh

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    MarkH | Nov 05, 2006 11:53pm | #23

    Don't bother with it.  There's more pressing matters to attend to.

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