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Trapping saw dust

edwin | Posted in Tools for Home Building on March 23, 2009 02:53am

As my current project proceeds to a higher state of finish but the need to cut stuff inside still exists, I decided I should do something to contain the dust I still needed to create so I bought one of those FastCap hoods that deploy behind the miter saw. It is a serious disappointment. It took two of us and half of the considerably large available space in the room to set the thing up and after the struggle I could barely see to operate my little Makita sliding miter saw and I could swing it full to the left without hitting the rediculus contraption. Its going back as soon as as can get it back into its box. Anyone have better solution?

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  1. maverick | Mar 23, 2009 03:22pm | #1

    cut outside

    sorry, thats what I did all winter

    1. edwin | Mar 23, 2009 03:40pm | #3

      Point taken!

  2. Henley | Mar 23, 2009 03:24pm | #2

    Kapex.

    http://www.cpofestool.com/products/561287.html?ref=ysm

    Too rich for my blood, but hey you never know.

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    FatRoman | Mar 23, 2009 04:24pm | #4

    See if you can create a boot to funnel the dust toward the vac hookup like one of these:

    http://lumberjocks.com/CraftsmanCollective/blog/5869

    You probably have to register for this one (below) to see the photos, but it's free.

    http://www.talkfestool.com/vb/festool-tips-techniques/1612-ct-mini-bosch-miter-saw-2.html

    'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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    1. edwin | Mar 23, 2009 05:09pm | #5

      Thanks! That is very interesting. I have the same Bosch saw and electric control that starts a vac that I feed though a small Oneida Dust Buddy. It does not work very well because much dust is never captured by the factory collector. What is need is what is shown in the Lumberjocks web site.

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        FatRoman | Mar 23, 2009 05:25pm | #6

        The second one is also on a Bosch slider. It's a bit simpler, just a piece of clear PVC cut to length and affixed with double-sided tape.But the boot seems to be the key toward getting enough suction down on the saw table to whisk the dust back to the vac port.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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    2. Shep | Mar 31, 2009 03:01pm | #12

      That's a great link! Thanks!

      I've got the same Bosch slider. I'm going to make the same mods on my saw.

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        FatRoman | Mar 31, 2009 03:29pm | #13

        Funny, I was just thinking I hadn't seen you around lately. You all moved in at this point?Let me know how that works out on your saw. I'm going to try to cut some flexible plastic and see if I can make something similar for my Ridgid. Even the fancy German vac doesn't do much to suck up that mess.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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        1. Shep | Apr 01, 2009 03:04pm | #16

          You might be waiting a while. It takes me some time to go from concept to completion <G>

          I'm still working on that house we'll be moving into. I've gotten busy doing paying work, so the other house is on the back burner a bit. Probably another month before we move in, since I've got a golf trip to Myrtle Beach scheduled in a few weeks.

          Plus I just spent 4 days near Atlantic City, NJ last week playing golf. Gotta have priorities. LOL

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            FatRoman | Apr 01, 2009 03:25pm | #17

            It takes me some time to go from concept to completion

            So, I'm not the only one? :)

            Sounds like your priorities are straight to me. I think a golf trip is a well-qualified excuse for not working on your own house.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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  4. AitchKay | Mar 23, 2009 05:31pm | #7

    We had to cut a huge amount of non-com on one job, and the dust left a nasty tang in our mouths.

    I got a refrigerator box, and cut "french doors" in it at the appropriate height. I folded the doors out to create dust-trapping wings, and stuck a dust collector hose in the back of the box.

    This was a big space, around 8,000 sf, so I could get away with a pretty large footprint. I doubt I'd ever have enough space to do it on a residential job.

    AitchKay

    1. edwin | Mar 23, 2009 06:58pm | #8

      You are right about the space issue but maybe not all that much larger than that thing I bought, and a lot cheaper. Very creative of you.

  5. gordsco | Mar 31, 2009 06:09am | #9

    I saw the fastcap set up, but I use 2 mitersaws. I knew it would not be large enough. Now I know for sure.

    I have a couple of cheap 5' aluminum bar clamps set up behind my stand. I clamp a 6' level in the jaws for a top brace and hang a 6x8 tarp.

    In low light areas I put a few 100w clamp on lights across the top bar. So much easier to be accurate when you can see.

    The contraption is easy to set up and knock down, takes up hardly any room in the truck and catches an amazing amount of sawdust.

     

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  6. JeffyT | Mar 31, 2009 06:59am | #10

    my 12" makita scms does fairly well with a vac hooked to the dust port. I did fiddle with that little rubber shroud in the back a bit which helped more dust out through the exhaust. A sharp, good quality blade also helps, as soon as the blade's a bit dull or if I cheap out and use an ex-change-a-blade stuff flies all over the place.

    Ripping has to go outside, though, even in the winter :(

    For hardwood flooring installs I'll set up in a room and cut away. The room isn't spotless afterwards but it gets most of it. Quick trip around with the vac and everybody's smiling.

    j

    1. edwin | Mar 31, 2009 02:11pm | #11

      All things considered, this is probably the best approach. It is about what i have settled on anyway. Thanks.

    2. AitchKay | Mar 31, 2009 04:13pm | #14

      We just had to rip a bunch of Azek. Yikes!But with my Festo vac hooked up to the port on my partner's Dewalt rack-and-pinion TS, we really had no problem doing it indoors. I'd do it again, and I'm a neat freak.AitchKay

      1. JeffyT | Apr 01, 2009 06:07am | #15

        I find Azek pretty tidy to work with, actually, as long as you can keep the static cling down. I just finished ripping and then routing a profile onto several hundred lf of it. This time of year is great for Azek - not so much worries about sweaty hand marks on it and other hot weather grumbles. I do hate the smell, though. j

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