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Trim Around an Archway

| Posted in General Discussion on April 6, 2001 02:23am

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My friend is redoing his kitchen and has a small breakfast nook/eating area just off the kitchen. The opening from the kitchen to the nook is a 4′ wide by 7’2″ tall archway. He is going to cover one side of the arch (kitchen side) with panelling (wall is in very rough shape and has been heavily textured). He asked me how to finish off the rough edge of the panelling around the arch. The “inside face” of arch will be left smooth (plaster that is painted. Anybody know of a product or technique to “bend” wood trim around the arch. He wants it to look nice obviously. Any help will be appreciated.(I will take all the credit for the great ideas as far as my friend is concerned!!) thanks,
rick

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  1. Skip_Keith | Apr 01, 2001 06:30pm | #1

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    You have two choices as I see it. You can find bendable trim through a decent lumber yard. For the top of the line job, I'd trim the door out with square stock and then route the trim . If you have to match existing trim this might be a bit tricky, as an alternative you could cut enough trim for the entire kitchen. Your tools and ability will be the deciding factor here. Good luck, Skip

    1. GACC_DAllas | Apr 01, 2001 07:12pm | #2

      *Rick,Skip's got the handle on it.Making your own radius wood trim can be difficult without the proper tools. The shaper knife for the radius profile has to be ground differently than the straight run knife because of the outfeed. You might check with a local mill and see if they would make this one set-up of radius trim. In Dallas, there are several small shops around that can do this for you. Beware, it won't be cheap.Did you consider a plaster moulding? Most plaster companies can make radius profiles. You can do it yourself with plaster and a wood or metal scraper template cut to the profile you want. It's messy, but kind of fun too. Once it's set, you can sand out any irregularities or add plaster to fill any spots that were missed. Good luck,Ed.

      1. millsie_ | Apr 01, 2001 11:57pm | #3

        *Have you given any thought to bendable rubber molding? Any good millwork shop will have access to it. The only thing is you have to paint it. I think. Don't use any caulking though. Right ED. just kidding

        1. The_Tennis_Court_Builder_...on_t | Apr 02, 2001 12:09am | #4

          *Rick...Yaa wanna do this for about a buck or less right!?Just do it...And tell em Joey said it's right.near the stream,ajGive me a break!

          1. Zap_Gash | Apr 02, 2001 01:47am | #5

            *Lamination would be my choice. Cut many small strips, each able to bend your radius, set up a jig(scribe arch on a sheet of 3/4 ply), then start gluin', clampin', and sandin'. Router edge to make profile, voila, custom arch trim... time consuming, but cheaper than any custom millwork.ZAP

          2. Cal_Howard | Apr 02, 2001 03:00am | #6

            *Rick- You talking steam bent corner bead over the 1/4" panel into the arch here or radius casing with a let in or rabbet on the back side here? Cal

          3. Sgian_Dubh | Apr 02, 2001 03:31am | #7

            *Either just do the proper moulding,......or,...... forget it. Jings,.......this expensive moulding on a curve technique has been been around for centuries, and I really mean centuries. It's always been expensive, and always will be if you want it to look right. Sliante

          4. Rick_Massic | Apr 02, 2001 04:38am | #8

            *Cal, A bent corner bead into the arch will probably work (panelling will be no more than 1/4") Skip, I like the idea of using square stock and then using a router to get the radius. No we dont need to really worry about matching the existing trim---it's all torn out allready. millsie & Ed, Yea thought about both plaster and the rubber/vinyl trim---plaster too much work (it's not my house!!!) and the rubber moulding ..... well I just don't know---it always make me think of institutional buildings---hospitals,fast food joint etc. AJ, A buck!! Heck no..... I'm willing to spend up to 5 bucks!!!Zap, Lamination would look great....but again...too time consuming and as I keep saying...it's not my house!Thanks for the ideas...we will kick them around and see what floats to the top. Rick

          5. Mike_Maines_ | Apr 02, 2001 02:10pm | #9

            *Segment the curve into pieces, drill for pocket screws, temporarily screw or hot glue to sheet of plywood, use a router on a trammel arm to swing the curves, dismount from the plywood, join together with pocket screws, attach to wall. Finish jamb is plaster? Make wood overhang to the inside, flush trim afterwards then throw away the bit. MM

          6. The_Tennis_Court_Builder_...on_t | Apr 02, 2001 04:17pm | #10

            *April Fools Rick....So $5 is OK by me...near the stream,aj

          7. Anthony_Colman | Apr 03, 2001 12:03am | #11

            *In the cabinet shop, we would've just laminated this. Just cut strips of moulding on a table saw flexible enough to make the curve. Cut up two lengths of moulding, alternating between the two so as to end up one complete set of strips, and no wood missing from saw-kerfs. Draw the arc on a sheet of plywood or mdf or something, and fasten scrap blocks along the radius--folling the inside radius exactly, and leaving some room to work on the outside radius. Glue, bend, shim, let dry. Viola. No shaper needed. The front office would charge a custimer three or four hundred dollars for something like this.

          8. Johnny_M | Apr 06, 2001 02:23am | #12

            *Rick,Resinart is a good company that makes flexible, paintable mouldings-approx. 3 week leadtime. You should be able to purchase their product through a local lumberyard-they don't sell direct.If you're going to poly/stain the moulding, then you should look at a custom millwork company. This can be expensive, though. Knife and set-up charges could cost upwards of $500.

  2. Rick_Massic | Apr 06, 2001 02:23am | #13

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    My friend is redoing his kitchen and has a small breakfast nook/eating area just off the kitchen. The opening from the kitchen to the nook is a 4' wide by 7'2" tall archway. He is going to cover one side of the arch (kitchen side) with panelling (wall is in very rough shape and has been heavily textured). He asked me how to finish off the rough edge of the panelling around the arch. The "inside face" of arch will be left smooth (plaster that is painted. Anybody know of a product or technique to "bend" wood trim around the arch. He wants it to look nice obviously. Any help will be appreciated.(I will take all the credit for the great ideas as far as my friend is concerned!!) thanks,
    rick

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