Does anyone know where I can get a trim piece for the ceiling shown in the picture? The round pipe is 8″ in diameter. The square portion is 14.25″ x 14.25″ and the out black mark is 20.25″ x 20.25″
The square area goes through the ceiling from a woodstove below. The former owners removed the woodstove and the base it sat on. The excuse i was given is because they had children.
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I guess I don't understand. If the stove is now gone, why not remove the metalwork and patch the ceiling?
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I take it as he wants to trim around the metal box. Like using crown or maybe something that was especially made for this installation.
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The former owners pulled out a woodstove and the trim piece. When I bought the house I put in a wood stove and want to cover the tin colored piece and the plastered ceiling that is showing. It appears that at one time there was a trim piece that covered the rectangular area with an 8" diameter hole in it.
Most any place that sells wood stoves can get you a square ceiling support box that is black with the 8" hole. Some brands have the outer flange attached as part of it, and some have it separate to be tack to the ceiling separately.http://shopping.aol.com/duravent-direct-vent-ceiling-support-box/21931722http://images.google.com/images?q=ceiling%20support%20box&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
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Did you notice that the 6" pipe is reduced to the 8" insul pipe?
I kinda wonder if that is OK..I know we can't take an 8 and neck it down to a 6, but something strikes me as odd with that photo.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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You gonna play that thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Ln-SpJsy0
BTW, in th e ones I am familiar with, th e black support and trim are the same piece. I have not seen one where you have that galvanized support and a separate trim piece. That makes me wonder if this was jury rigged so I would climb into the attic to double check the whole installation.
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Do you have a woodstove now? (In other words, you are not looking to pull the pipe and just patch the ceiling?)
If you are using the woodstove, I would check on the clearance necessary (there are special boxes that you nail between ceiling joists to hold the chimney and keep it the correct distance from combustables and I would look into one of those unless this is a special chimney that needs no clearance). I would see what others here have to say, but, if this is a zero-clearance chimney (triple walled?), I would be inclined to use paperless drywall or just tile backer board to box the thing in and mud it and maybe use mesh instead of paper tape. The main thing to me is how hot is that pipe and the box going to get? You don't want to start a slow-burning, smouldering fire up in your ceiling (or a fast burning one, for that matter!)!
If you're looking to trim aroung the pipe I would try something like a crown moulding like the others suggested.
You could build a corner out of 1x material and fasten it to the ceiling, one horizontal glued/nailed to the drywall w/ a vertical piece nailed to that. install crown between the two to finish it nice.
Maybe route the ends of the 1x if they are going to be exposed.
There are plastic escutcheons (I've seen them at Lowe's) that imitate the old plaster roses and so on that went on ceilings where chandeliers were mounted, they often come in two pieces and that may work, if you are just trimming around the pipe. I'm no longer sure of the question though!
That is called the cieling support box ( the 14.5x14.5) and there is NO trim that is made for it.
IF the box was set FLUSH with the JOISTS ( as it should) there is no need for a Square typ trim, a cieling trim ring is sold that is round, and either pivots to open or slips around the pipe prior to assembley to the stove.
You have a box that is mounted wrong, so any type of crown or trim you want is gonna be homemade or site fabbed, there is no part to buy.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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You gonna play that thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Ln-SpJsy0
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
every support box I have ever seen or installed was designed to hang the insulated pipe below the ceiling surface a couple of inches to six inches. That give the framing there some more protection.But I do think something could be hoaky with this install, because that plain jane box is non-typical. Could be something a HVAC guy made up with lighter weight metal than is needed for the load of the pipe above it.
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Right.
Grant made mine out of 16oz copper, and did a fine job. I don't have the finished cieling up yet, but now that I look at my install, I am below the joist maybe 2", so I would need a trim to cover the cieling cut out.
I still think switching pipe size is a no-no, but if the OP has a larger triple- or double wall transition, I guess it's OK..but how much stack is above that box?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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You gonna play that thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Ln-SpJsy0
You can up size one or two inches generally but never downsize.I did a lot of Googling and I think that most makers have done away with the square black support box that is exactly what appears to have been removed here. They have round ones for flat ceilings and the square box with adaptable trim for cathedral ceilings which can also be used in a flat ceiling like this and will then function as an insulation shield in the attic.
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Either or, in my mind, I see 3 Piffin screws holding that chimney support box, wanna bet?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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You gonna play that thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Ln-SpJsy0
LOL
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