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Trim termination on outside corners?

tufenhundel | Posted in Construction Techniques on October 10, 2006 07:03am

How would you guys terminate this trim? It’s a simple headband running the periphery of one room, but it runs just under the opening to another that will not have a headband. Moving the head band up isn’t an option. Does it go into the transition wall segment, stay out of it, or ??? Have a look see. View Image

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  1. rnsykes | Oct 10, 2006 08:25pm | #1

    Just return it into the wall.  that would be my first guess.

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    JDRHI | Oct 10, 2006 08:54pm | #2

    My first thought is to return it back to the wall before you turn into the opening.

    However......Do you have enough headroom at the room entrance to drop the header down low enough to accomodate the moulding? (So that it runs straight across.)

    If your sketch is true, it appears that it might give you a better look where the soffet meets wall at the opening as well.

    J. D. Reynolds

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    1. tufenhundel | Oct 10, 2006 10:23pm | #3

      My first idea was to try and run that headband across the opening and not have to deal with the return, but there are a series of openings from that hall way (where the headband is) to other rooms. And unfortunately, the opening heights are not uniform nor level. Running the trim over the openings will only enhance the error. So my solution was to break up the headband at the openings, but I don't know what looks best in this case.

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        JFink | Oct 10, 2006 10:44pm | #4

        I agree with JD - do a miter return before entering into the passageway.Justin Fink - FHB Editorial

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        JDRHI | Oct 11, 2006 12:47am | #9

        ....the opening heights are not uniform nor level.

        That would be the place to start. Bring all of the headers down to the same, level, height....low enough that you can run the moulding above....or at least across.

        Keep in mind....you'll need to maintain a minimum height. I think....but am not sure....that is 6'6".

        J. D. Reynolds

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        1. tufenhundel | Oct 11, 2006 03:10am | #10

          Wish I could do that, as the drywall was already finished by the time I got to it. The framing crew must've been real tired by the time they got to this hallway. There are no adjustments for the openings.

  3. splintergroupie | Oct 10, 2006 10:59pm | #5

    You can also look at it as a feature. You could view the band as the road that leads to a 'reward' of a block or rosette, for instance, rather that letting it die a natural death into the wall.

    1. tufenhundel | Oct 10, 2006 11:44pm | #8

      Worth thinking about. In either case, the consensus seems to be stay out of the opening.Thanks all.

  4. danz857 | Oct 10, 2006 11:15pm | #6

    Just a DIYer so will ask a stupid question,  are you casing the opening (passage way) with drywall or did I miss something in your post? IF casing with drywall, why is the trim necessary?

    Dan

    1. tufenhundel | Oct 10, 2006 11:42pm | #7

      The opening is just a drywalled. The trim just happens to come from the headband on the other side of the opening.

  5. IdahoDon | Oct 11, 2006 09:23am | #11

    I tend to agree with the others that it's most likely best to terminate prior to the opening, but it would ultimately depend on how the situation looks from the most heavily used areas in the two rooms.  We've been given a picture from the view of the non-banded room only.  It might look like something's missing without the band going into the opening from the view of the banded room.  Also, if one room is dominant based on the type or amount of usage it might not be a bad idea to use what looks best from that side if it's a toss up otherwise.

    Typically I'll make those kinds of returns 1/4" or so shy of the sheetrock edge if it's returned prior to or in the opening.

     

    Beer was created so carpenters wouldn't rule the world.

    1. tufenhundel | Oct 11, 2006 03:01pm | #12

      Why do you terminate 1/4 short of the corner?

      1. IdahoDon | Oct 12, 2006 08:11am | #13

        By stopping just short of the corner, a return appears to run the full length, but avoids having to transition in a straight line from the smooth trim to the much rougher wall surface and the slightly rounded sheetrock corner bead.  The cut also doesn't have to be exact so it goes up much quicker as an added bonus.

        In some situations it might look better to terminate at a corner, but I can't think of any right now, other than smooth transitions between trim pieces such as a plinth block and the inside edge of a door casing. 

        Beer was created so carpenters wouldn't rule the world.

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