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trimless windows

malibuds3 | Posted in Construction Techniques on February 12, 2009 05:46am

Are there trimless specfic windows or are they normal clad windows w/ sheetrock ending into the window frame ? The question is i have wood windows already installed and now the wife wants no trim. Can I  bring the sheetrock up an over for a window sill and end it in the window frame and still make it look good Or should I stick w/ trim and paint it?

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  1. RalphWicklund | Feb 12, 2009 06:00pm | #1

    Unlike drywall returns to the sides and top of windows, any return made as a sill usually ends up damaged or stained. It doesn't take much to ruin a soft horizontal surface because many people cannot resist a flat surface to lean on, display knick knacks or set down a drink. Children will shorten the lifespan of a drywall sill overnight.

    If you have blinds that are consistently opened or closed the slight abrasion will eventually show. If the window is left open and you get some rain pooling - oops.

    BTDT. I will never use a drywall sill for myself or my customers.

  2. Piffin | Feb 12, 2009 06:15pm | #2

    Yes you can turn SR in and use metal corners and mud it all finished.

    But at the sill you will be unhappy unless you use another material to cap with. all the wear and tear and condensation pooling there will have it terrible in short order

     

     

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    1. Snort | Feb 12, 2009 08:44pm | #3

      There's also a plastic type of j bead that goes against the window frame. has a small tear away flange that keeps most of the mud off the frame. I think trim tex makes it.http://www.tvwsolar.com

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      1. Jay20 | Feb 12, 2009 11:57pm | #4

        I would finish the window before attempting to install the drywall returns to the window. I have done this in the past with wood windows. Use the tearoff plastic bead against the wood window as others have mentioned. Also make sure your margins around the window are the same. You may have to do some shimming. Usually when planning for jamb extensions and casing the framing reveal to the window is not as critical than when returning the drywall to the window. Nothing looks worst than a different reveal on the sides of the window. Also I have see when this treatment is done to the windows that the curtains are usually installed between the drywall returns. Use metal outside corner and plumb it so the curtains fall parallel to the drywall returns.

        1. Snort | Feb 13, 2009 02:55am | #5

          Off on a tangent here... why does anybody use metal corner bead any more?First time I saw plastic was as a trim guy. It's easy to shave, or cut out of the way. If it gets banged, it rebounds. It holds paint.I had it put my house, and I have it put in every house I build, or project I do. The sheetrock boss always acts like it's a big deal, but I don't see it.http://www.tvwsolar.com

          I went down to the lobby

          To make a small call out.

          A pretty dancing girl was there,

          And she began to shout,

          "Go on back to see the gypsy.

          He can move you from the rear,

          Drive you from your fear,

          Bring you through the mirror.

          He did it in Las Vegas,

          And he can do it here."

          1. Jay20 | Feb 13, 2009 08:11am | #6

            When returning drywall to windows metal outside corner bead just seems easier to plumb than plastic which can bend. Also most likely when the curtains are installed they could easily be held by the corner bead and plastic will pull out.

          2. Snort | Feb 13, 2009 03:07pm | #7

            I get that "can't run it straight" thing from the sheetrockers... then they go and run it straight! I haven't seen it pull out, either.
            http://www.tvwsolar.com

            I went down to the lobby

            To make a small call out.

            A pretty dancing girl was there,

            And she began to shout,

            "Go on back to see the gypsy.

            He can move you from the rear,

            Drive you from your fear,

            Bring you through the mirror.

            He did it in Las Vegas,

            And he can do it here."

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