Have a project that I would like to cover with tyveck and then glue and screw a smooth metal sheeting to and I was wondering if a glue like pl-400 would work with tyveck?
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I don't understand. If you glue your metal sheet to Tyvek you won't be gluing it to much, unless you also glue the Tyvek down. And Tyvek has a bit of a "teflon" nature to it and will not glue well with some types of adhesives. Others may damage it.
You need to explain better what you're trying to do.
I'm with DanH - gluing anything to Tyvek is bound to be a problem.
Even if you find a glue which does a nice job of attaching the metal to the Tyvek, all you will have is Tyvek glued to metal.
Methinks we need more info.
Jim
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I am building a fish house and I had planned on 1/4 luan on the inside with 1 1/2 pink foam for insulation with 2x 11/2 for studs and then screwing the rolled alumium for the siding I would like to glue and screw everything together and I will need a vapor wind barrier someplace so if I put tyveck on the outside I will have to just screw the alumium to the studs and I was thinking glue would help with long term durability.
In that situation the glue probably won't help. The Tyvek is a good idea, though, since keeping the wind out is very important. Be sure to carefully tape the seams. Make sure the floor and roof are tightly sealed too, and that the joints between wall and floor/roof aren't likely to leak. (Carry the Tyvek over the edge in each case.)
This sounds like a very flimsy wall to me with 2x2 studing and only 1/4" luan for interior wall. It might last a year. maybe not.I don't know fish houses from yurts, but it seems to me that it would be a damp place. Luan cannot handle a damp environment without delaminating. Use 1/2" cdx for the interior of the wall and use the Tyvek on the inside. you should also have some sort of sheathing on the outside before putting the rolled AL on. There is no structural integrity in that AL. One option would be put the Tyvek on the outside of the studs with staples per usual and then strapping horizontally over tyvek at a layout that coincides with the laps on the ALBut, to tell the truth, the whole idea sounds half baked to me. Tell more about a fish house and what the whole sceme is and we could help you have something that works and lasts.
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One important characteristic of a fish house is low weight, so that it can be easily moved. For this reason heavy plywood (inside or as sheathing) would be avoided, except on the floor where the load-bearing capacity is needed. Likewise 2x2 instead of 2x4, etc.Structural integrity can be improved significantly by letting T-bar diagonal reenforcements into the sides, or perhaps just X strapping with steel strap, to avoid notching the 2x2s for the T-bar.Rather than luan internally, one might consider some of the plastic panels like they use in gas station bathrooms -- water resistant and light weight.If fiberglass insulation is used some sort of air barrier is needed on both the inside and outside. Since the tin won't make a very good air barrier, and since some sort of interior covering is needed to protect the insulation and allow installation of shelving,etc, the Tyvek should probably go on the outside
So this "fish house" is like an ice fishing shanty, on skids perhaps?
Jim
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That's my interpretation. Think "Dirty Old Men".
Metal studs are light weight and strong.
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Yeah, I thought of that. Would complicate construction quite a bit, though.
Would complicate construction quite a bit, though
Shouldn't, really--just harder to cope with some diagonals, etc.
Was my first thought once "fish house" was defined, too. Use PT as the skids, then 3.5 28ga metal framing and a simple shed shape with a sloped top plate on two sides (which would be a tad faster in metal studs to cut). Use 1/2 cdx as the sheathing & diagonal bracing. For insulation, I'd use cheap batts, and hold them in with tyvek.
That's not the ideal way one insulates, but this is a fishing shack--has to be very close to a 0 ROI lifecycle structure.
I'd frame a bench across the narrow end while I was at it, too (storage can be a very good thing in a limited floor (have to be able to get to the fish) situation like this.
The one thing no one has talked about is the door. I've seen some odd solutions for that. Like plywood sheet on gate hinges. Slickest was a storm door let into the wall (nice for getting some light inside too).Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
I guess I just don't understand the glue thing. Screw the da-- thing together and go have fun. You might consider the "multi-ply" plywood that is 5/16 6 ply and very strong.
I saw a water resistant luan at my local big box, perhaps this might be better?
Also, since this is and outdoor structure that won't have the same requirements as a home, what about using a polyethylene sheet, like 6mil thick, glued to the studs with polyurethane, then glue the sheet to the polyethylene and screw it to the studs?
Just a thought.Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
Also a CRX fanatic!
I take it you're building an ice fishing shanty, Mnhunter2. You Minnesota fisherman must have big bucks! Are you putting a woodstove in it or a propane heater? Here in Maine we often build out of anything cheap or free. A quick and light weight way is to use Tuff-R sheathing on a minimum frame. This is the foam core stuff with an aluminum paper cover. The rich guys will sometimes cover that with aluminum, just using roofing nails. We use woodstoves, so, they will drive you out if the shanty is too tight. Having enclosed walls may provide a place for bugs, mice and mold to live in the off season. We don't live in our shanties, but in some places the folks have kitchens, TV's, carpeting and all the comforts of home. The links below will direct you to a bunch of ideas as well as some ready made that can serve as a four season portable cottage. http://hickorytech.net/~jbusby/house.html
http://hickorytech.net/~jbusby/buyhut.htmBeat it to fit / Paint it to match
Ice shanty is what I'd call it too. Fish house had me picturing a place where the kids were going to raise fish in the backyard as a 4H project
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Yeah, and I'll bet you'd call a hotdish a "casserole" too.
There was a time I might have called a hot dish and asked to roll at me casa or su casa
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