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Snort | Posted in General Discussion on March 31, 2008 11:59am

I was expecting a call today to tell me if a house was ready to put the final kitchen/laundry shoe down tomorrow. At noon the super calls to let me know it’s time… to go pull out all the painted shoe we’d already put in!

Seems the $100/gal tung oil treatment the “expert” floor finishers put down on the concrete didn’t fix everything… or for that matter, anything, and they’re going to grind the floors tomorrow. Hope they like the aggregate look<G>

Thing was, we had to make all the shoe out of finger jointed base and case, since the HO’s abhorred real shoe. Already caulked in and painted… and my guys did not virtually nail it, this time.

Got a nice pile of kindling, and I gotta see what I can scrap out the brads for.

Shoe shoe sha-boogie!

Should I charge podiatrist fees?

Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy, Winterlude by the telephone wire, Winterlude, it’s makin’ me lazy, Come on, sit by the logs in the fire. The moonlight reflects from the window Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand. Come out tonight, ev’rything will be tight, Winterlude, this dude thinks you’re grand.

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  1. Snort | Apr 01, 2008 12:07am | #1

    Man, picture posting IS tough, dang!

    Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy,

    Winterlude by the telephone wire,

    Winterlude, it's makin' me lazy,

    Come on, sit by the logs in the fire.

    The moonlight reflects from the window

    Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand.

    Come out tonight, ev'rything will be tight,

    Winterlude, this dude thinks you're grand.

    1. maxp | Apr 01, 2008 12:25am | #2

      Time to call the tile guys

      1. Snort | Apr 01, 2008 12:29am | #3

        HO suggested tile cover-up to the GC... only 40,000 bucks<G> Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy,

        Winterlude by the telephone wire,

        Winterlude, it's makin' me lazy,

        Come on, sit by the logs in the fire.

        The moonlight reflects from the window

        Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand.

        Come out tonight, ev'rything will be tight,

        Winterlude, this dude thinks you're grand.

  2. JohnT8 | Apr 01, 2008 12:57am | #4

    Hope you got paid to remove the stuff and redo it.

     

    jt8

    "Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then we shall find the way." -- Abraham Lincoln

    1. Snort | Apr 01, 2008 01:05am | #6

      Haven't milled, sanded, cleaned up, primed, painted or re-installed yet.GC always pays with just a little wince, he's one of the good guys, just a little out of sequence, eh.Plus we de-mobilization, mobilization, and de-mobilization again, if we want it <G> Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy,

      Winterlude by the telephone wire,

      Winterlude, it's makin' me lazy,

      Come on, sit by the logs in the fire.

      The moonlight reflects from the window

      Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand.

      Come out tonight, ev'rything will be tight,

      Winterlude, this dude thinks you're grand.

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    BossHog | Apr 01, 2008 01:02am | #5

    For those of us who are "flooring challenged" -

    Could you explain just what exactly is wrong here ???

    Defeat is worse than death because you have to live with defeat. [Bill Musselman]
    1. Piffin | Apr 01, 2008 01:12am | #7

      Looks like a great milking parlour floor, doesn't it?What are you, udderly challenged too?;) 

       

      Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

      1. Snort | Apr 01, 2008 01:16am | #9

        Looks like a great milking parlour floor, doesn't it?No cows slipping on this finish... but the house is in an old hay field, hmmmmm? Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy,

        Winterlude by the telephone wire,

        Winterlude, it's makin' me lazy,

        Come on, sit by the logs in the fire.

        The moonlight reflects from the window

        Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand.

        Come out tonight, ev'rything will be tight,

        Winterlude, this dude thinks you're grand.

    2. Snort | Apr 01, 2008 01:13am | #8

      The HO doesn't like it?Like I said, it's a finished concrete floor, around 3000/sq', finshed with expensive pure tung oil. Bad concrete finish job, bad floor finish job. It looks like a$$.Here's a bit larger pic... I didn't want to PO Marty earlier, but I'm ready for a drink, and don't care now<G> Winterlude, Winterlude, my little daisy,

      Winterlude by the telephone wire,

      Winterlude, it's makin' me lazy,

      Come on, sit by the logs in the fire.

      The moonlight reflects from the window

      Where the snowflakes, they cover the sand.

      Come out tonight, ev'rything will be tight,

      Winterlude, this dude thinks you're grand.

      1. dovetail97128 | Apr 01, 2008 02:14am | #10

        Looks like unremoved "Cure & Seal " was under the Tung oil finish to me.
        They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

        1. Snort | Apr 01, 2008 03:04pm | #13

          Dovetail, I'm not familiar with "Cure and Seal." Pour was last summer, 100° weather, cloudy day... until the pour was finished and the clouds broke... then they broke again that night when it rained.After it was scored, it was covered with 1/4" fanfold styro with aluminum towards the crete. Some of that was taped, which left some dark, objectionable lines on the surface.Everyone who talked to the GC about sealing/finishing had a different theory/method... wood seems so much easier<G> If dogs run free, then what must be,

          Must be, and that is all.

          True love can make a blade of grass

          Stand up straight and tall.

          In harmony with the cosmic sea,

          True love needs no company,

          It can cure the soul, it can make it whole,

          If dogs run free.

          1. dovetail97128 | Apr 01, 2008 04:42pm | #16

            "Cure & Seal" is a generic name for a sealer (often acrylic) that is sprayed or rollered on a slab to control it's drying . Applied when the concrete is still very green (meaning right after the final troweling)it keeps the moisture in the slab and will help keep rain off. If it wasn't completely removed prior to the application of the oil then the residue shows through and will eventually peel up. It may not have even been used there , I really don't know. Just guessing from the pics.
            They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

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        BossHog | Apr 01, 2008 03:19am | #11

        I get it now - This is a FINISHED floor. I was thinking that something was supposed to be on top of it, and didn't see the problem.
        Life is not having been told that the man has just waxed the floor. [Ogden Nash]

      3. brucet9 | Apr 01, 2008 06:22am | #12

        Is that efflorescence coming through under the finish?
        BruceT

        1. Snort | Apr 01, 2008 03:09pm | #14

          Is that efflorescence coming through under the finish?
          BruceTI don't think so, but that could be part of it. Seems like the dull areas are not as smooth as the shinier ones... maybe something to do with the trowling?... like the opposite of wood where over sanding can burnish an area and it doesn't take stain as well? If dogs run free, then what must be,

          Must be, and that is all.

          True love can make a blade of grass

          Stand up straight and tall.

          In harmony with the cosmic sea,

          True love needs no company,

          It can cure the soul, it can make it whole,

          If dogs run free.

          1. robinpillars | Apr 01, 2008 04:33pm | #15

            I would guess it is moisture coming up from the concrete under the finish and making the cloudy spots. 

            Good finished concrete floors are very hard to achieve and need almost perfect conditions: Perfect curing, Perfect cleaning, more Perfect cleaning, very good aplication, and more perfect cleaning. I bet things went wrong from when it was poured until yesterday.  Most of them are the concrete sub's fault, but they likely had a lot of pressure on them time wise.  To have a good concrete floor like this they probably needed 18 days without any other work going on to get it down between curing cleaning, more cleaning and application. 

            Edited 4/1/2008 9:33 am by robinpillars

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