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   ian | Sep 25, 2003 01:04pm | #1

   arround my way, that detail is associated with the "Tuscan villa" style of over sized bad taste

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   JeffBuck | Sep 27, 2003 05:54am | #6

   that's amazing you can see the size and proportions are over sized!

   U must have x-ray internet vision.

   can ya taste the "bad taste" too?

   JeffBuck Construction   Pittsburgh,PA

    Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite                  

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   UncleDunc | Sep 25, 2003 01:32pm | #2

   I don't think there's a practical reason. I've seen pictures of a number of buildings like that, all of them over a hundred years old. It looks to me like the designers wanted to emphasize the decorative aspect of the gable wall, so they didn't want the roof hanging over. I would also guess that it would require a multi-wythe brick wall to make the parapet look right, and most people don't want to pay extra for that.

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   WayneL5 | Sep 25, 2003 05:20pm | #3

   In the 18th century, before flat roofs, row houses were built with peak roofs.  The common masonry walls between units were extended above the roofline to restrict fire from burning from one unit to another through the attics and roofs.  It's done with flat roofs to, but you can't see it from the ground.  This is done today on townhouses, though often with less talented architects who are unable to make it look as attractive.  I suspect that in the case you mentioned it was done as a decorative effect to suggest 18th century style.

   Properly constructed, it's fine.  It's no more difficult a situation than having a one story wing butt up against a two story structure.

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   CapnMac | Sep 25, 2003 09:01pm | #4

   but it seems to me that they're asking for trouble in Chicago, where we get our fair share of snow, ice and rain.

   And spending a ton of money on step flashing.

   Question:  How does the roof overhang meet the end gable?  Does the wall extend past the roof over hang, or does the roof wrap around the gable?  If it wraps around, that detail would get my attention.  Turning the corner around the brick, not so much--it would be like the bottom side chimney flashing.  More would be how to get 1, 1 1/2 courses of shingle to but to the brick; and then the itty-bitty "rake" on the end.

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   Piffin | Sep 26, 2003 04:30am | #5

   It's a simple firewall detail. Properly done, there's no reason to expect trouble.

   .

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   HeavyDuty | Sep 27, 2003 08:02am | #7

   A lot of old churches around here have that detail, never seen it in new residential yet.

   Tom

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   IanDG | Sep 27, 2003 08:13am | #8

   It's a typical detail of "Georgian" style or period houses in the UK.The roof is hipped and rainwater runoff is collected in the parapet gutter.

   IanDG

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   Framer | Sep 27, 2003 09:57am | #9

   Rich,

   This might be something like your talking about. I framed an addition last year that had all gable ends and gable dormers.What we had to do was buid up every gable end above the roof with 2-2x12's so that the stone mason would come back and install cement caps on top.

   I don't have the pictures with the finished stone caps but I have pictures befor. They don't look that much higher  but you can still get the effect.

   Joe Carola

   
   

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   Edited 9/27/2003 2:58:54 AM ET by Framer

   
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   edwardh1 | Sep 27, 2003 01:45pm | #10

   Good pix!!!!!!!!

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   reganva | Sep 28, 2003 03:59pm | #13

   Framer, that's exactly what the house in my area has.  I like the idea of putting up a flimsy porch roof that a cowboy can fall through.  Maybe a watering trough that he can land in also?

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   MrPita2 | Sep 29, 2003 11:00pm | #14

   Naw,

   You need the trough for "Beckman's Roof Top Ranch and Bordello".If everything seems to be going well, you've obviously overlooked something.

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   johnharkins | Sep 30, 2003 03:51am | #15

   more pics of that stone place would be most appreciated  beautiful

   make of windows     are those standard US made superior chimney pots?

   thanks  john

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   Framer | Oct 01, 2003 03:26am | #16

   John,

    are those standard US made superior chimney pots?

   Yes, I'll ask the GC where they came from.

   The stone Mason was great on this project. They sat there and chopped away for days and days making corners.

   The windows came from a company in New York called Zeluck. I'll give the link below to the thread I posted a while back.

   http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=26195.1

   Here's some pictures.

   Joe Carola

   
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   johnharkins | Oct 01, 2003 09:37am | #17

   Heh  many many thanks for posting those fantastic pictures of the stone house

   question on that beautiful three pair of french doors w/ transoms  will they cover the tarpaper w/ stone veneer or ?

   also went to the sites you turned me on to  awesome sites and products  -  Zeluck, Tradewood  etc

   I must learn how to post photos!

   all is most appreciated and inspiring    John

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   MisterT | Sep 27, 2003 01:55pm | #11

   Most times this is done so you have somethig to hide behind to repel the invading hordes.

   Or for the big shoot out  at the end of a western, where the guy on the roof hiding behind the parapet with a rifle, can't kill the guy in the middle of the open street, but the hero spins around and drops him from his spot with a single shot from his pistola.

   You will probably want to build a flimsy porch roof underneath, so your stunt double can do a 1/2 gainer and crash thru to the sidewalk.

   Mr T

   Do not try this at home!

   I am an Experienced Professional!

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   DocDM | Sep 28, 2003 08:19am | #12

   Either trying to put the painters out of work or GC figured the xtra masonry still cheaper than Azek