I’m surprised any of you cats are still interested but I had a few requests for update pictures.
Here’s a before to jog your memory:
And here’s an after:
Here’s a bunch of other pictures of the outside almost wrapped up. I still need to replace the basement windows, install the porch ceiling, hang the shutters, and another set of stairs off the deck down to the dog pen.
Inside is coming along as well. I finished up all the interior trimwork except for the closet shelving and poles which I’m going to work on today. The tile guys have tiled the laundry room floor and the guest bathroom floor. They’ll be back on Wednesday to start tiling the master bath jacuzzi surround, shower, and floor. There was a snafu with the delivery of the master bath tile that set us back about a week. Not bad, that has been our first and only delay thus far.
The painters will also start this week. The following week the electrician and plumber will be back to do their finish. Then the carpet will go down and the painters will come back for a final touch up and to paint the bathroom baseboard. And then we’ll finally move in. Move in date looks to be the week of Christmas.
I’m pretty much done working on the outside until the spring. There’s the nicknacks I mentioned above as well as a load of landscaping to do. I hope to start the rework of the downstairs in late January. That won’t be too bad though.
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Very clean work.
Is that a plugin up high fro Christmas lights?
Tim
Hmmmm, I just looked at the pictures myself and it appears that in shrinking the file sizes I've distorted the proportions a bit. In the pictures, everything appears a little taller and narrower than real life. Hmmm.
Anyway, I'm not sure where you're talking about Tim, but either way, no plug-in for Christmas lights. Up in one gable end is a mounting block for the motion detector light on the driveway. (Our neighborhood is incredibly dark at night with no lamp posts allowed, no street lights, and no nearby industrial lighting brightening the sky). We can see an amazing amount of stars at night, though. :)
On the other gable end is a block with three exhaust vents.
Thanks for the compliment on our work though Tim. I'm sure it'll never make it into Architectural Digest, but we love it.
Make sure that when you shrink photos that you have the "keep aspect ratio" button checked. On the other hand, if you want to make a fat person look slimmer...
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Looks nice Brian.
Don't forget the interior pics.
I like the little gable in the front!
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Thanks Eric, and I'll add some interior pics as it progress. I've got a really old first generation digital camera that doesn't do so hot inside, but I'll give it a try. Maybe time to give myself an early Christmas present? :)
You like the little gable? It's the one thing on the exterior that I'm not 100% sure of. I put it up there as an afterthought because the roof just looked a little overwhelming to me while we were framing it. It may or may not still be there next year.
That's too funny.
I wasn't sure but the more I looked at it................you need something there, I think it fits the bill.
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Of course! She thinks everything I do is cute. That's why I married her. ;)
Not sure of the little gable? Might look better a little bigger? My pictures never do justice either. Looks Good. Of course everybody is interested.
Thanks Doodabug. You might be right. It may have looked a little better if I dragged the span out a little past the columns underneath. That's why I try not to make design issues for the people I frame for...... I'm no architect! Our house is my design, but I had an architect that I'm familiar with draw up a workable set of drawings and smooth out the kinks.
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In this pic . Yes it must be the motion light. Looks lke a recpt.
Tim
Yep, that's a block for the motion spotlight. That's a great idea though.... where were you two months ago? {G}
While looking at the pic I pasted I noticed thats at least a two flue system and possbly three. Whats the deal on the flues? What are they for?
Tim
Wow... you're good Tim.
It's only a two flue system but there's easily room for three. One is for the boiler and one is for the active fireplace in the existing living room.
Here's the deal with the chimney. We didn't know what to do and I didn't really know what masonry work would cost. The original plan was to just extend the existing chimney (brick) with block and wrap the whole magilla in cultured stone.
The mason came and looked at it and said it shoud be torn down another 6-8 feet and it should get a hip before extending it. Since it was only two flues and didn't need to extend at such a large width it made sense. The problem was that I wanted to get it sided as I was trying to fast track my house. We just ran 1x3 Azek up the sides of the existing chimney and continued them up the gable plumb to the rakes. Not a traditional look, but not that bad either. This way the siding could be completed. In fact the house was already painted by the time the mason started his work.
I just wanted to get the thing done, is the truth of it all. That and the fact that the cultured stone job came in at $9900 while a simple extension of the existing with brick came in at $2500. That was the deal breaker. We decided to just extend it in brick and if we really still felt the cultured stone was worth the expense and would really add a lot to the look of the house, then we could just wrap the brick in the Spring with cultured stone. In the meantime it freed up some cash for other stuff and gives me a few months to recoup some of the money we've spent.
Hey Brian that's some nice work!
Headstong, I'll take on anyone!
Brian... nice detail .. pulling the porch roof around the side with the hip....
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Thanks Mike, I think it looks sharp too. It also will let me wrap the gutter around the corner and run a down spout down the cornerboard on the side of the house instead of down a column.
I'm hoping we don't need a gutter though. There's no problem with water getting into the basement there, it's just the splash up onto the porch trim that bugs me. I'm hoping I can solve this with an 18" drip line of gravel between the porch and the planting beds that will be in front of the porch. Maybe some well placed plantings can make it not look too obvious?
What do you think about that? Think I'll need a gutter? Or do you think the gravel drip line might work to keep the splashing down?
As far as the picures show the brick looks nice and is an add to the house .
I like rock but not to cover up work like that .
Tim
Thanks Tim, I appreciate the input. It gets harder and harder to make judgement calls cuz I've been staring at the thing for the past 3 months. A fresh set of eyes and an honest opinion helps.
Very nice work dieselpig! Always interested in everyone's "homework". I enjoy work pics, but like the home ones all the better! Keep up the good work and need more pics!
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If I work on my own house does that make me a DIY?
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Thanks guys. We're very very pleased with our home. 2000 sqft just feels huge to the two of us. It amazes me that when I frame a 2600 sqft colonial, the GC's always refer to it as a 'little' one. The average size home I framed last year was around 3500 sq feet and the largest was close to 5000. And I don't even frame the 'big ones' around here.
"2000 sqft just feels huge to the two of us"
Well you could make a diesel jr..... :)
nice looking work, Do you have a close up of the deck rail detail? It looks like the balusters run right into the bottom and top rails?
I don't have a close up of an assembled rail Neil but I'll try to take one for you. It's pretty simple and is a detail I've used on a ton of decks. I just take clear WRC 2x4's and blaze up and down the top edges with a router and a round over bit.
I rip 1/4" to 5/16" X 1 1/2" pieces of lathe out of WRC 2x4's. Then I use a narrow crown stapler and 1 1/2" SS staples through the lath and into the bottom of the balusters. As long as I staple across the grain of the lath, put four or five staples into each baluster end, and am careful not to overdrive the staples, they don't move or twist at all. The assembled lath and baluster assembly is then stapled into the top and bottom rails. It's a pretty clean look.
I know some are going to scoff at the fact that there isn't a bevel on the top or bottom rail, but the system works really good, is fast and easy, and cheaper than buying premilled railing stock. The oldest railing I've done this way is 6 years old and is holding up well, but the owner takes good care to hit the railings with Penofin once or twice a year. I know 6 years isn't much of a test of time, but I'm comfortable with the set up. I've just never seen standing water on the 2 1/2" or so that's left "flat" on the top and bottom rails.
Here's Alex blazing some railing stock:
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Well you could make a diesel jr..... :)
Aw man..... I gotta hear it from you too? My brother is thinking of taking a job in Ireland next year. It's a three year gig and he'll be taking his wife and two kids along. My mother will be at a loss without her grandkids around. That'll really turn up the heat on me!
I just wanna get the house back together before I've got a pregnant wife running around. A guy's gotta have some piece of mind, ya know? ;)
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very nice, What a change!
You obviously have an eye for construction.
From this side of the world you have really done a lot in a short time. What 4 months???
3 months.... but who's counting? ;)
Nice job, Brian. Did you have a hard time finding a good framing contractor? ;)
Bob
The framer can be a real azzhole, but I've found ways to deal with him and keep him in check most of the time. What a primadonna. {G}
I just wanna get the house back together before I've got a pregnant wife running around. A guy's gotta have some piece of mind, ya know?
"Not tonight, Dear, I've got a cornice detail to finish." ;)
jt8
"The cynic is one who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." --Oscar Wilde
I just wanna get the house back together before I've got a pregnant wife running around.
Having been the pregnant wife, I highly recommend that! (G)
I don't recommend having a baby and building a house at the same time. REALLY don't recommend it, LOL.
Leigh
I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers). . .
I just printed your response and am gonna hang it on the fridge for when she gets home from work.
Now it's YOUR fault.
:)
My DH is a saint, let me tell you!
Leigh
I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers). . .
Being a saint is what it takes to be married to a domestic goddess, isn't it?I had to laugh when I first quick-scnned your tag line and had to do a double take. I thought it said "I am a domestic servant, I serve two ovens..."
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DH and I both think we got the best end of the deal--works out pretty well.
(The tag line came from Cooks Talk, where I usually hang out. I love to cook, often entertain and will definitely use all my equipment, but was feeling guilty about having it. Someone replied with the phrases that now are my tagline. In my defense, the two dishwashers are Kenmore middle of the road models (have one already and love it), and we're keeping our two basic fridges.)
I am really looking forward to cooking in my dream kitchen. I designed it with function in mind and can't wait to see how it works. I still feel guilty, though. Child of depression parents and all that.
Leigh
I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers). . .
Didn't you have a house thread somewhere? You might as well give us some photo updates if they're available.
jt8
"The cynic is one who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." --Oscar Wilde
Yep, we're building a timberframe and it's almost done (although I'll believe it when we move into it.)
I'll start a thread.
Leigh
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Very nice work young man. You must be relieved and pleased. Pay heed to what Mooney said about makin' hay while the sun shines.
You are talking my language. Please do come back with pictures. Too bad you can't do scratch and snif digitally here.
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I've been swamped at work and have a sick baby at home so I haven't gotten the pictures up yet.
I'll try to get some more pictures this weekend of the latest effort. Most of the interior scaffolding is down now, so I should be able to get some better shots. Paint is on, trim is mostly up, so the end is within sight.
Leigh
I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers). . .
Really 3 ovens? Stop doing all that work stuff and take a couple pics for us. I'm still in the demo stage of my current project, and need to be motivated by someone who is nearing finish line (or at least the move in line).
And if you've already posted the pics and I missed them, just ignore me.jt8
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Nope, I haven't posted updated pics yet--we've been too busy, between packing up the old house, finishing up the new house and Christmas.
I'll do it eventually!
Over Christmas we got the flooring in upstairs (a plank-style laminate), finished the laundry room cabinets (a poly finish) and the guest bath cabs (painted). We're doing what we can to help, but I just wish the house would get done!
Some of the lights are up (we put up half of them), but the wiring's messed up in about half the house. Turning on switches to see what they control is an adventure. We have the heat upstairs, but the downstairs furnace wasn't working right. The propane tank is in (buried) and filled, the electric and water are run (but the septic's not hooked up yet) and while the plumbing fixtures are all purchased and waiting in the shop for installation, the plumber doesn't know when they'll be installed.
The builder keeps telling us not to worry, but the house was originally supposed to be done in October, then end of November, then end of December, now who knows! We keep having to extend the construction loan, and we close on the sale of our existing house on Friday.
However, I just got a call from the shipping company, and my range will be delivered tomorrow. Yippeee!
Leigh
I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers)! I am a domestic goddess! I deserve three ovens (and two dishwashers). . .
Um yeah, you're gonna want to get that septic thing hooked up. Especially with that 1200 sq ft kitchen and 6 bathrooms. jt8
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Hey, we only have 2400 sq feet total, and about 300 sq feet of it is kitchen. And, there are 2 1/2 baths, plus a sink in one of the 3 bedrooms.
But the views are gorgeous this time of year. I was painting the guest bath cabs, and kept looking out the windows across the loft--I'm sooooo ready to live there.
Leigh
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When are we getting announcements about CAG the Fifth?;) you brought it up.
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Put a little more English on that ball, then. All us Grampa types are watching whiole all the Gramma types are a waiting and knitting booties...;)
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Holy shid man!!
she cut you off already!!!
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Maybe Christmas doesn't come from a store...
Maybe Christmas means a little bit more...
Then he got the strength of ten Grinches, plus two!!!
Nice digs. Just did a similar deal with a little bungalow. We doubled ours from 900 to 1800sf and the DW thinks it's a mansion. But, as you pointed out it ain't near as big as some. My subs would mention "so and so's house (think millionaire celebrity)has a pool house or garage or storage shed that is larger than your house". Puts thing in perspective. Before you know it, it will be time to add an addition.
Before you know it, it will be time to add an addition.
The next project will be a two or three car garage/shop. No questions, no compromises.... that's a done deal. ;)
"The next project will be a two or three car garage/shop. No questions, no compromises.... that's a done deal. ;)"Sure it is, but one question - where you gonna park the cars?
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Who cares where the cars are when you've got a big 'ole shop to play in! That's why I'm leaning towards 3 bays..... Allison would slaughter me if I went and built a garage and she still had to get into a frosty car in the morning. The truck likes to be outside.... so that'll leave two bays to fill with toys. {G}
Nice job Brian. I like the way you did the little water tables on the sides of the front porch.
Looking comfortable, doode...if you do a reedoo on that porch gable, try drawing it so the columns look they're holding it up...?So, where's the trim???<G> Hey, pocket doors can't come off the track if they're nailed open
So, where's the trim???<G>
Oh gee... did I forget to post those pictures? {G} Maybe we'll wait till the painter works his magic for those. JK.... I actually think I did pretty good. The only thing I really screwed up on was not noticing that the millwork salesman put me down for pre-hung doors with the casing applied on one side already. I didn't like that arrangement at all. I found that the miters weren't always that great and they don't glue them either. Sometimes the head casing seemed to be cut a hair long too, which made for a reveal that was a little over 3/16ths at times.
I was pleased with the little self returns on the apron and stool on the windows though. Made me smile. Boy, they don't leave you guys with much extra stock on those take-offs to cut the returns and what-not though, huh? I was using a push stick with the slider to cut some of those little buggers with what stool stock was left over.
I'll admit it though.... my trim job wouldn't make the cut if it were stain-grade and I'd be a pretty hungry trim carp at my pace!
Gonna go over to Gary Katz's forum in a few minutes and read up on scribing closet shelving. Those and the pulldown stairway are all that's left I think.
Check out Garys web site. He has a whole section on closet shelving.
BTW Very nice job.
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Thanks bro.
I like it! You been listening to Mike and I about designing to avoid roof gutters?
I also like the wraparound porch ends. One suggestion tho it's too late maybe now -
you have a multitude of styles meshing there, the overhung porch, the saltbox rear, the cantilevered floor - I forget the name for that - anyway, it is all done well and doesn't look bad, but it might have been possible to tie them togehter better ion the side elevations by running that porch end wrap over to the cantilever and make it disappear - even go all the way around the house as a skirt to shed water further from the foundation on that side too.
Is the deck Trex with Merranti premilled railing?
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Thanks Piffin.
The decking on both the porch and the deck is Weatherbest. Porch is cedar colored and the back deck is Weathered Gray or Weathered Wood or something... I forget. The railing is clear WRC that we blaze with a roundover bit.... see my post to CAG above.
I agree that there's a lot of different things going on with the design. That's what happens when a framer gets to run with the ball! :) Hey, what can I say? We designed it around living comfortably and keeping it all in the budget. We love it and don't plan on selling this one for a long, long time. If the critics don't like..... I won't let them in! HA!
Good railing. I had finally scrolled far enough to read the railing detail. i've used Weatherbest too. Like it better'n trex.No criticism meant to be negative at all.That is just part of how I learn design. I look at something and ask myself, what do I like aboput this, what do IO not, why, What could make it better. I do it with my own designs and with those the archies hand me. There is not a thing wrong with your house. It has turned from a poor ranch to a fine mini-mansion.Garrison is the style name of the back side cantilever. Finally remembered. It comes from eaarly American wood forts where the defensive battlements were overhung and a trap door could be openned to shoot or drop rocks or boiling water down on attackers.
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I've been to the Pig's house and got a tour.
It's looking Saaaaaaa-weet!!!
(Heck he even let my kids chase his cat around!!!)
Stowfest 2007?????
re: Incredibly dark at night. Yeah, Stow,MA has some weird "rules and regulations". Friend of my wife's has an 6 car garage, and another building for his antique car collection (10-15 cars), and the neighbors are always trying to butt into his affairs. Definitely a "high end" town :)
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Quirky, yes. But I don't see Stow as high-end at all. In fact it's just barely losing it's 'farming community' status.... and begrudgeonedly at that. There's still an awful lot of townies that really don't want to see things change around here... and that includes seeing the developments and the $ move into town. A ton of small town politics at work for sure.
I've always been fascinated by peoples motives for taking on major remodels. Most people seem to focus on resale value, and return on their investment. The thing they never seem to consider is living there, and enjoying having a really nice house. Just curious, about the thought behind your project.
I've never remodeled a house that I lived in, I move to often. Of course, even if I did start a major renovation, I probably wouldn't finish it. Hell, now I live in an apartment, just so I don't have to shovel snow.
Looking good.
Stacy's mom has got it going on.
I was flppin houses several years ago and DW quit me . We moved 4 times in 6 months . She said , Ive had enough. She picked out one more repo that was our biggest and she told me to attend the auction and" bring it home ". Reqardless what it brought , just do it . Of course I knew it had to be in reason. So I bought it before auction and paid the lender off. I worked on it for a year with us living in it off and on but mostly right on it . It was rough and dusty.
I have to admire Katrina Clifford.
Tim
We bought this house back in January with this addition being the goal. We deliberately searched around for structurally sound but somewhat run-down ranches and capes on nice pieces of land to do this sort of addition to.
We (my wife Allison and I) knew what we wanted for living space, what we could afford, what I was capable of doing, and where we wanted to live. We wanted a spacious open first floor that would be very comfortable for entertaing family and friends in a very informal atmosphere. In fact we both agree that neither of us had any desire for any formal living spaces like formal living rooms or dining room. We wanted a big open eat-in kitchen and big family room and a bathroom on the first floor... not much else. And we wanted our sleeping space to be up on a separate floor with room to grow as a family. But we also knew we didn't want to build something that looked like another cookie cutter colonial. Nothing against colonials, it's just that every other house in our area is a colonial and I've framed about nine million of them. All done with that.
The farmer's porch across the front is just a detail we both always thought we'd like to have and we thought it was a great way to keep the house in touch with the rural community we live in. It also serves as a nice way to 'hide' the second floor a bit and keep the house from looking too imposing from the street. I think it defines the house. As we were framing the addition, I tell by the look on people's faces that they didn't "get it". When the porch went on, all the light bulbs lit up and everyone could see what it was I was trying to accomplish. The porch pulled the whole thing together.
We lived in an 800 sq ft two bedroom cape with a 5x8 bathroom before we sold it and bought this place. We knew that we didn't need a ton of space, be we certainly knew we wanted more than we had. That house always looked messy for the simple fact that there wasn't anywhere to put anything. So we basically designed around our lifestyle and the way we had lived together for the three years before we bought this house to turn into our home. We knew what worked for us and what didn't work.
Resale value never entered into our motives at all. We don't have any plans on leaving this place for a very long time. We looked at new houses, old houses, colonials, capes, contemporarys, a few Victorians.... and couldn't find one that we could afford or that seemed to suit our lifestyle. So we decided to build our own. We didn't have enough coin to build new, from the ground up, or even buy a decent lot for that matter, so we figured we'd look for a ranch to transform because they are a great starting place. We also knew we couldn't afford to keep our first house while we built a new one.
We also needed the money from the sale of the first house to start the work on the new place or we'd end up with more mortgage than we wanted to get into. The addition we're doing is financed completely through the profits from the sale of our first house. The addition is paid for and our mortgage is less than what we paid for the house by a bit. We didn't want to end up house poor so we used a bunch of the equity we had in the first place to float this one.
So we found this place that is structurally sound, on an awesome flat acre lot, and in a well kept neighborhood. It was in dire need of a facelift so it was a good match. No sense paying for siding or roofing that's headed to the dumpster six months after we move in.
Other than those minor brainstorms.... nothing. We didn't put any thought into it at all. We just want to try to keep up with the Jones' and make everyone think we're cool.
Looking great, Brian. Hope that "living there for a long time" thing works out for you. I'm in my fourth "this is the place- we'll live here the rest our lives" home. Just as soon as I get it like I want it, some moron offers me twice what it's worth and here I go on a new adventure. Cheers.Birth, school, work, death.....................
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You give me too much credit. The only moron willing to spend what I've spent on this place, is me. Sad but true. Glad you like it though.
>The only moron willing to spend what I've spent on this place, is me.<Yeah, yeah. Just wait. You've got a large lot with a fine house. They're not making any more land. I bet within 5 years, someone will come knockin' on your door.Birth, school, work, death.....................
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We just want to try to keep up with the Jones' and make everyone think we're cool.
That's what I figured.
Stacy's mom has got it going on.
I can tell.
Seriously though, it must be satisfying to have a long term plan come to fruition.
Stacy's mom has got it going on.
Well...... sort of. To be honest I'm really never satisfied with anything until it's done. It's a character defect of mine.... inability to stop and smell the roses sometimes. I go 100mph and wonder what happened? I find it totally unsettling that there's some stuff that I won't be able to get to until the Spring.
So, fruition.... not just yet anywho. But every once in awhile I'll flip through the photo album we've kept from day one and realize that we've come an awful long way already, even if there's still a long way to go. And for a couple minutes I'll chill a bit. But then my mind takes off again......
It's the same way with jobs I do for work. We can be absolutely killing a frame but I still feel like we could be faster. Oh well.... I'm working on it. And age is already starting to mellow me a bit.... or maybe it's being married?
Yeah, that's how I stay out of trouble too...
Stacy's mom has got it going on.
You didnt ask for any advice but Im prone to a little bit.
Do these things while your going mach 2 and your hair is on fire. Those are the best years for getting it done. Its true youve got the rest of your life to live but not doing those things. That comes to an end before its time . Right now you can push it 7 days a week and turn it off . Like pro football players that dosnt last long enough.
Tim