Vapor barrier needed over Roxul wall insulation in the South?
Hello everyone, I apologize if this has already been posted and discussed before. as I’m sure it has been, but the more I read the more confusing it is.
I am in the process of finishing a major addition to an old house. The new part is approx 1200 sq ft. The 2 X 4 walls are vinyl siding, Tyvek, wall sheathing, and Roxul ComfortBatt insulation. On hand I have Certainteed MemBrain “Continuous air barrier and smart vapor retarder” ready to install over the insulation before putting up the drywall. The material is advertised to be made of polyamide film (nylon) instead of polyethylene. I live in north central Alabama where we have hot, humid summers. Just in case it matters, I have a newly installed heat pump in the new addition.
Now the question, is a vapor barrier needed? Is the Certainteed MemBrain acceptable? Thanks for you patience if this has been answered before. I’m in a time crunch and need to decide to install this or not.
Thanks!
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Probably not needed, and might be ill-advised.
No, vapor barrier is not needed/required.
how come you cant run by this by a code official? on an addition that size i hope its getting inspected.
I thought it would go on the outside?
My understanding is that for that sort of climate, you want a VB on the exterior side of the insulation for humidity control.
OTOH, I am but an alledgedly humble DIYer, so caveat emptor.
Good luck.
Thanks to all for your responses. I've decided to go with no vapor barrier. Thanks!
The one thing that an inside "wrap" would do for you is to provide additional air sealing. With a batt insulation such as fiberglass or Roxul it's important that airflow through the material be minimized, as air movement greatly reduces insulation efficiency. The housewrap on the outside solves part of the problem, but you also need to be sure that airflow is minimized on the inside.
Generally, simply covering with drywall accomplishes this, but one needs to develop a sort of sixth sense to recognize situations where airflow isn't adequately blocked and fix them. This is around pipe penetrations and the like, of course, but also may be "odd" junctions in the framing where an air pocket is created which allows airflow through the insulation, beyond what's normally contstained within a single stud bay.
Some thought is required.
vapor barrier on the interior of the building in an area like n. alabama would be a big mistake. in the summer time it would cause condesation because of the humidity and A/C.
Thanks for the additional information. I'm trying to be extra vigilant in making sure I find and close all possible sites for air leakage. The only thing I can't figure out an easy way to do is where the interior wall is perpendicular to and meets the exterior wall. That, along with the corners of the exterior walls which seem to be just hollow spaces. Is it acceptable to cover these gaps with a vapor barrier? What is the best way to cover or fill this?
It would be better to cover the gaps with Tyvek.
Hi there, I would seriously consider pulling out a stud at each corner and getting insulation in those corners. That was a major oversight by the framer to either 1) build a corner detail that doesn't allow for insulation after he is done, or 2) insulate the pocket himself before attaching the adjoining wall. This is new construction correct? This is not acceptable unless you live somewhere the temperature is a constant 65 degrees. Short of pulling studs out, I would tape/and/or caulk these joints as a last resort.
Foam
At this point in your project, I'd drill holes every foot or so and fill the void in the foam. There are easy ways to address this during the framing stage but now it's easiest to fill it with foam.
No, we dry to the inside down here and your barrier needs to be under the siding where it is. Any additional layers will trap moisture.
I'm southwest of ATL.
Yes, the framer was negligent in overlooking this important piece and I have to say that's the only thing I've found fault with. But now that it's done, I have to fix it. If I go the way of drilling holes and filling with spray foam, (excuse my lack of knowledge here) should I fill it all at once or in layers while letting each layer expand before adding the next one? Will it just expand upwards? I don't want to overfill. Thanks for the input.