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Vaulted Ceiling In Kitchen

seeyou | Posted in Construction Techniques on September 5, 2009 10:15am

I’m working up some ideas for my upcoming kitchen/dining room/family room redo and DW wants the ceiling vaulted. I like the idea since I can use the gables to replace daylight I’m losing to wall cabinets.

Anybody got any clever ideas how to deal with the space above the wall cabinets created by the vault. The ceiling will have a 5/12 slope.

copper p0rn

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  1. Piffin | Sep 05, 2009 10:38pm | #1

    not sure of the style of the house and whether the outside would look better with an eliptical window or a pair of trapezoids..

    For an interiopr detail, you could apply crown to the cabinets and continue the same crown around the room, possibly as a plate rail molding.
    The wall above the plate rail can be a lighter tone than the wall itself, and the ceiling another tone lighter yet. That creates illusion of an even higher lighter expanse than what it is.

    For instance if the walls are a watermellon green or fern colour, the space above the rail is a light mint green, and the ceiling is almost white, maybe like a lime drink

    if that makes any sense... get a colour wheel from BM....

    or you could run a beaded board wainscot with chair rail at about 34" and then one smooth wall surface ( or a wallpaper) to the ceiling.

    One I've seen done in more rugged decorating style is a T&G pine to the top of the 8' walls and then switch it from vertical to a pitch that follows the roof line in the gable. Don't think I care for that much but it works for some houses.

    'course, you could go on a hunting trip and mount the cape and rack up there to keep an eye on her.

    ;)

     

     

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    FatRoman | Sep 05, 2009 11:33pm | #2

    My first thought was to extend the cabinets up to help your eye follow the ceiling slope.

    Not sure if I'd:

    • Make the boxes above the uppers into a trapezoid (and perhaps step them back and leave them open for displaying plates, books, or something of the decorating sort)
    • Create a gently curved top like the built in armoire seen on p. 90 of FHB #144
    • Think about wrapping those face frames in copper somehow
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  3. inD47 | Sep 06, 2009 01:26am | #3

    If it ain't broke don't fix it.

    I have just left my upper cabinets blank/empty on top when mounting in a vaulted room.

    you could trim them with a type of crown moulding/trim, but I think it looks best when its minimal, in other words a 1 1/2" - 2 1/2" wide piece of trim.

  4. fingersandtoes | Sep 06, 2009 02:27am | #4

    It is a bit of a problem. If you do a Google image search on vaulted kitchens most of the cabinets have a very uncomfortable relationship with the space. The nicest ones I've seen had very short uppers with clearstory windows above.

  5. jimcco | Sep 06, 2009 02:40am | #5

    You say vaulted, do you mean cathedral or just elevated center for the room.

    With cathedral with the slope perpendicular to the cabinets I once saw skylights that came down even with the front of the cabinets. Lots of good light and kept the area over the cabinets from feeling void. They were growing plants up there.

  6. DanH | Sep 06, 2009 04:34am | #6

    You do know, of course, that you can't just cut away the ceiling joists and/or truss bottoms without careful engineering.

    As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz
    1. seeyou | Sep 06, 2009 04:43am | #7

      I've got a mechanical engineering degree and have been in the engineering or construction trades for 35 years.  I think I may have heard something about that.copper p0rn

      1. DanH | Sep 06, 2009 04:45am | #8

        I was pretty much assuming such. Just wanted to make sure.
        As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz

        1. seeyou | Sep 06, 2009 04:49am | #9

          Thanks - didn't mean to be a smartass.copper p0rn

          1. DanH | Sep 06, 2009 04:51am | #10

            Let's kiss and make up!
            As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz

          2. seeyou | Sep 06, 2009 05:00am | #11

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          3. bk24 | Sep 06, 2009 01:31pm | #12

            Nice one!  I've got to hold on to that picture...  As for what to do above the kitchen cabinets, I'm in the same predicament myself.  In my house, The cathedral ceiling is actually at it's lowest in the kitchen (gets higher when you walk into the adjoining living/family room), leaving me without too much space about the cabs.  At this point, I'm planning to crown them and probably put some soft lighting in on top of them (rope light or something).  It's nice to have that kind of indirect light when you're no longer working in the room but still in the vicinity.

          4. excaliber32 | Sep 06, 2009 07:48pm | #13

            Soffits? With crown molding.

          5. Snort | Sep 06, 2009 08:01pm | #14

            We've done some with a shelfy/crowny deal for cab tops. It looks very nice especially if you have interesting stuff to put up there. Cleaning dust bunnies out can be an issue.One architect I worked for did a series of kitchens where the wall cabs went from smaller to larger in height (some were stacked), and loosely followed the slope. It looked great in his houses... and a tall guy such as yerself would find it easy to get the stuff off the top shelf<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com

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          6. mikeroop | Sep 06, 2009 10:30pm | #16

            Grant are the cabinets going to stop short of the top of the wall or extend all the way up?

            short of the wall you could use it for a shelf or build a soffit

            all the way up at a 5/12 thats only 5 inches at the front of the cabinets I think i would just add some trim detail to finish off the cabinets to the ceiling

          7. seeyou | Sep 06, 2009 10:41pm | #17

            Yeah, they'll stop short. I like Terry's and other's lighting ideas.

             copper p0rn

  7. TLE | Sep 06, 2009 08:41pm | #15

    Did a kitchen where the designer had us put a 6" wide "extension"  around the top of the upper cabinets, setting it out about 5/8" proud of the face frame for a significant reveal.

    Around the top of this extension a 3" crown mold was applied.

    The best part was that we mounted some flouresent lights in this box that created indirect lighting that would wash up the wall and ceiling.

    For my sister's house we used 42" tall uppers and applied the crown mold. No where near the same affect. Back of the upper cabinets ended up at the wall to ceiling intersection making the gap between the crown and ceiling along the front look like an oversize crack.

     

    Terry

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