Outside, above the roof, I want the look of a big massive rectangular stone chimney stack, but without a full masonry fireplace under it. Fireplace will be a steel box type.
There are plenty of ways to get a heavy structure of wood columns and beams under the chimney box to support it.
Can I do this somehow, and get a real stone exterior (4″ of veneer, tied with brickties to a felt-papered sheathed frame box), or am I limited to the cultured stone veneer stuff, at a thickness of maybe 1-3/4″?
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Can I do this somehow, and get a real stone exterior (4" of veneer, tied with brickties to a felt-papered sheathed frame box), or am I limited to the cultured stone veneer stuff, at a thickness of maybe 1-3/4"?
Should be able to, as long as you have the structure to support the weight of the veneer stone. The cultured stone is maybe 25% the weight of veneer, so you may need more support. The next part would be getting a good mason (meaning one with veneer experience). Most veneeer jobs are set off the face to create an air gap, just like brick veneer. You need more masonry ties than for brick, IIRC, unless you are using a uniform, cut, stone.
Now, with the cultured stone, you can use 2x4 framing with durock for sheathing, that lets you apply the c.s. directly.
While you are framing the box, putting some blocking inside for tv or small satelite dish mounting is not a bad idea. If it is open to the attic below, get a second flue cap to use as an "exhaust" for warm air in the attic.
I'll bet you a doughnut that you can get it buit right by a competant mason as inexpensively as using stainless pipe in a chase and satisfy all the firecodes and add the framing to support the real stone weight.
Either go all masonry with block to support where it is invisible, or go with the chase and the man-made stone.
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Not that easy. Outside, the chimney box is roughly 40 x 168 in plan view, one big plain box with stone sides. I have a feeling cultured or veneer with some support ledge detail was done on the original.
Inside, it is a simple tile-faced fireplace under the center third of the chimney. The actual chimney is a 3-chase unit: the center is the stack for the seethrough fireplace, one of the sides is for the oilfired furnace, and the remaining one is a vent for the attic space below.
Two pics are attached. One shows the house exterior with the chimney showing, the other shows one side of the seethrough fireplace below.
I don't suppose you could convert them to jpgs so I don't fall asleep downloading them?
what the heck, It's a slow night in here...
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Here ya go. Sorry.
LOL, Now we'll have to re-frame prospero to handle the weight of all the photo attachments
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I first thought that you were talking about a totally new building.
So the owners don't want a repeat of a failed system?
BTW, Here are some smaller files of the same photos
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What you see in the pics is the original of the house built in Vermont. My clients want to replicate it here. A full set of plans is available.
The attached .pdf shows a rendering of the roof. I am talking to some standing seam guys, but only the ones capable of dealing with the eyebrow dormer over the porch.
You can see that chimney poking out through.
Since it is new, I would stick with masonry. nothing tricky aboiut a triple flue and it'll out last you
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BTW, when you squint and tilt your head just right, you can see Frank L Wright's spirit cavorting around that place.
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