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I have a large living room that always seems to be colder than the rest of the house. We are thinking of installing a vent free gas heater to aleviate the problem and add an attractive piece to the room. From what I have read people appear to have problems with these emmitting water in the air. Hey we run a humidifier all winter to do this. So the question is if I put a couple ceiling fans and a C02 detector in the living room along with a VF stove would I create a warm room and eliminate my humidifier in one step.
Thanks,
Mike
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Mike,
Where is all the moisture going that your creating with your full time humidification? If its condensing in the walls of your home or elsewhere you could be slowly damaging your home's structure. Fred's seen more of this than any of us, he knows first hand and on a few remodels that I have done I have seen incredible hidden wet/rot damage, in particular when the inhabitants run hunidifiers full tilt, etc.
As for unvented gas...you're breathing the exhaust no matter what the manufacturer says about it. Contractors heat with devices like this on a temporary, very non-sealed structure, and never like the "breathing the exhaust" comprimise involved in keeping are fingers thawed.
Just some thoughts,
Jack : )
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I have the same situation, I'm heating my 20X32X8 sunroom (in Ohio)with ventless logs and a ceiling fan with excellent results I have no humidity problems at all. I have a huge heat loss w/ 16 6030 windows in the room. The floor is still a little chilly, but i plan on installing a blower on the fireplace....good luck
*Fred,It is a fact that cold air holds less moisture than warm air so in the winter there is much less humidity in the air. This is especially true in the colder regions of the country. This extra dry air in our warm houses causes a discomfort for people with sinus problems. That is why we run humidifiers. I have run one for the benefit of my wife the past 3 years and see no moisture problems in the house. Am I missing something here?Mike
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Mike,
You may not have a moisture problem, but if you do you won't necessarily observe it in your living space. And lots of homes have minor amounts of damage that people can live with acceptably knowingly or not. If you're interested, take a look in your attic for signs of moisture and mold. Look where ever air is escaping through your walls or ceilings...at all the elecrical penetrations of the drywall, etc.
The moisture you're adding gets out somewhere,it may or may not be causing minor or severe damage.
Fred's the expert,
Jack : )
*You are right that winter air, heated to room temp., will be low on moisture. But unless you are bringing outside air directly into your furnace return (our house in California was like this), you should only have to add moisture to that air once, and there are plenty of moisture sources in the house to provide this. If, however, lots of warm air is departing your house through holes in the house or ductwork, you are effectively using outside air to supply your furnace, necessitating a humdifier to keep up. As the warm, humidified air leaves your house, it has to dump the moisture as it cools back into the winter air. Where it dumps this moisture is a big concern...
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I have a large living room that always seems to be colder than the rest of the house. We are thinking of installing a vent free gas heater to aleviate the problem and add an attractive piece to the room. From what I have read people appear to have problems with these emmitting water in the air. Hey we run a humidifier all winter to do this. So the question is if I put a couple ceiling fans and a C02 detector in the living room along with a VF stove would I create a warm room and eliminate my humidifier in one step.
Thanks,
Mike