Can you guy’s tell me what the going rate/sf is for installing vinyl flooring. I need to invoice a client for a job and don’t want to be too out of line. It was a small job (which sometimes cost more per sf than larger ones just b/c of setup and cleanup times) about 12×18 but very cut up and we had to move furniture in and out. The floor needed leveling which happened on Fri and we went and installed yesterday. All total probably 10 hrs ea for me and my hand including prep, install and clean-up. Thanks in advance for any comments.
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easiest way to get rate in your area is call flooring store, and ask what their rate is. then charge extra per hour for leveling the floor
I charge $40/hr for me, $20 for a hand, $40 for a journeyman. At my rates it would be $600 plus material plus tax. You can't necessarily go by a floor company's rates, imo.
On the other side of the coin, how much more work are you going to be getting from this particular customer, if any?
Or, how much was it worth to you to do this job? Were you super busy and squeezed it in? was it fill in? or just normal scheduled work?
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you charge same for journeyman as yourself?
Yes.
http://grungefm.com or
http://www.wolfmother.com
just curious how you price your jobs. I'm taking it you pay yourself $40 and pay whatever less than $40 to your journeyman?
just curious how you price your jobs. I'm taking it you pay yourself $40 and pay whatever less than $40 to your journeyman?
Since I am the owner, I don't actually pay myself anything. I pay my employee's what they are worth. To price a project, I calculate the number of hours for each skill set, do the math, and come up with a labor cost. Same for materials and incedentals, travel, etc. mark up and that's it. Job price. After all the costs of doing business are subtracted, the remainder is mine, but I get no paycheck.
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Typically we would pay our flooring installer around $1.25 sqft to install vinyl flooring and not including the vinyl itself another $2 sqft for installation of underlayment if necessary including the underlayment.
That would be for any job over 120 sqft.
Our min. charge for say a 5x8 bathroom would be around $300
But you mentioned it being cut up and needing to level the floor so none of those numbers would have come into play.
Don't fall into the trap of sqft pricing the job, it will not work out for you.
That said what was your prior agreement with your customer? How did you tell her she would be charged for installation?
In your case I would suggest billing it at your hourly rate for yourself and your help. It is not un-fair to make a profit nor to bill out at your required rate to stay in business. One of the main "problems" I plan to work on this year is to stop giving away work and/or cutting our rates "To be fair to the customer"
All to often in situations like yours I find myself or my boss willing to cut our rate down "to be fair" and there is no justification for it. Fair to who?
Exceptions I have our little old ladies or older men who are in need and on a fixed income.
I would itemize the bill, and include a line for moving furniture. That way if the customer thinks the bottom line is too high, you can point to items that were not part of the install cost. You could call HD or Lowes and see what they charge, but it will almost certainly be for the basic install, w/o the moving etc.
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt