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   steve | Sep 22, 2003 01:29pm | #1

   plaster or drywall?

   plaster is usually not a problem, just normal methods, try a wallpaper scorer, a serated wheel on a handle, it will create lots of tiny holes in the paper to allow penetration of the water

   drywall however is more difficult if not painted before. chances are good that you will damage the paper of the drywall, try a paper removal chemical which i believe is a soap type product diluted in water, the scoring tool will also help but be gentle so as not to damage the drywall surface

   chances are pretty good you may need to skimcoat the drywall afterwards

   caulking is not a piece of trim

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   andybuildz | Sep 22, 2003 06:33pm | #2

   With all due respect I'd never use The Tiger wallpaper perforater tool. First of all it barely works and secondly the rock under it becomes full of holes.

   I'd just use "Dif" wallpaper remover..real hot water and let the chemical do the work, but.......my guess is that you're in for a whole lotta fun.

   I seriously doubt the paper will come off if the walls weren't primed (HO job fer sure). If you find that you're ripping the rock paper along with the wallpaper you may just be better off if possible rocking over the whole job with 1/4" rock because the mess you're going to make won't be any easier after you spend all the time ripping the wallper along with the drywall paper down and respacling entire walls...than rerocking.

   Its a minor nightmare. Sorry.

   Good luck

           Be well

                      andy

   True compassion arises out of the plane of consciousness where I "am" you.

   http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   alias | Sep 23, 2003 02:30am | #4

   hey dude - hows the house going, hope everything and one is healthy and happy. will make it over sometime soon. hey you ever use those steamers on sheet rock??? i'd imagine it would make things kinda spongy . got my downstairs bath on my honey dews list. starting next week, and we got some wall paper on there thats gonna go. and realized i never took any off . so my cherry 's ripe and rewasdy for this any pointers???

   your pal... bear

   "expectations are premeditated resentments"

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   andybuildz | Sep 23, 2003 03:16pm | #6

   bear,

           everyones good here, thanks. And yeh, would like to see yer ugly face again soon. Waiting for the f'n building inspector to show up already cause he wants to see the drainage pipes in which has been in over a week now..I'm sick of calling him so I took pictures and will backfill today or tomorrow no matter what so I can start framing next week.

   I've done gazillions of rooms of wallpaper removal. Just use DIF and HOT water....it should just about fall off on its own if it was primed under it...if not ugh.....lotta screwing up the rock and then respackling, but at least a bathroom ain't that big.

   Be well big guy

                 andyTrue compassion arises out of the plane of consciousness where I "am" you.

   http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   Zuze1 | Sep 23, 2003 02:27am | #3

   Pete. does the paper have a vinyl face, ( front will peel from paper backing ) If so, peel off the vinyl face and apply Dif to the remaining paper backing. Do this and really soak it in. Then go back and soak again, paper should peel of woth the help of a broad knife. Apply the Dif with a garden sprayer, use the 22oz. bottle to 2 gals of very hot water. The more you let it soak in the better the result.

                     Jim Z

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   painterguy | Sep 23, 2003 03:37am | #5

   Pete

   As a painter/wallpaper guy for over 20 years i have run into this many times.

   Its not necessaryly a "HO" job. I have see many builders hire paperhangers that don't care.  Also the paper tiger or scoring with sandpaper IS sometimes needed, depends on how much vinyl is in the wallcovering being removed, the more vinyl the harder for the remover to soak in, scoring helps.

   We use "DIF" (Paint store will know what this is if you don't) mixed with hot water applied with a garden sprayer.  wet small areas many times and let the remover work.

   Your walls were probably sized with a clear coat which does nothing to help you but allowed the paper hanger to waste little time.  The drywall WILL tear and blister.  Be carefull but don't worry to much.

   After the paper is off coat the walls with "Gaurdz" made by "Zinsser" and available at any good paint store.  Dont skip this step....this water thin material will seal the drywall paper and allow you to skim with drywall mud without blistering.

   Sand and prime then re-skim as needed, prime and paint or paper.

   If walls are still real bad a heavy lining paper can be installed.  this can then be painted or papered over, and works well.

   Could also hang new paper or paint over existing wallpaper!

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   Zuze1 | Sep 24, 2003 12:38am | #7

   Painter Guy, Never, Never, NEVER hang new paper over old. Have been hanging paper for over 15 years and I never would even consider to hand over old paper. It has to come off.             Jim Z