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Was it raccoon ####?

rez | Posted in General Discussion on May 9, 2009 09:02am

Was it raccoonfeces that carries a particular disease or was it another animal like a bat?

Thanks

 

 


Edited 5/9/2009 2:03 pm ET by rez

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  1. rez | May 09, 2009 09:04pm | #1

    Man, can't believe you sayfeces standing alone without it getting changed to an ####.

    I wonder is animal defecated waste material would work?

     



    Edited 5/9/2009 2:06 pm ET by rez

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    JeffBuck | May 09, 2009 09:08pm | #2

    http://icwdm.org/wildlife/bat/batguano.asp

     

    this what ya meant?

    Jeff

        Buck Construction

     Artistry In Carpentry

         Pittsburgh Pa

    1. rez | May 09, 2009 09:14pm | #4

      Yep, that's it. Thanks.

      Raccoon can be treated just like any other animal then? 

      1. sisyphus | May 09, 2009 09:23pm | #7

        I think raccoon #### can carry a parasite which can cause blindness or worse. A recent news story warned parents "not to let their kids eat raccoon ####"  (gee that kinda ruins a fun time ?).

        1. TomT226 | May 10, 2009 01:08pm | #31

          Dogs and cats may carry Toxoplasmosis on their coats, and by petting them you can transfer the eggs your hands, then to your eyes.  Causes blindness if not treated quickly.  Dust in chicken and turkey houses may carry it also.  So can under cooked meat.

          I lost some of the peripheral vision in my right eye from it.  Nasty stuff... 

          1. McPlumb | May 10, 2009 03:17pm | #32

            That why your against dogs in the house?

          2. TomT226 | May 10, 2009 09:00pm | #36

            I don't allow anybody in the house that can lick their own junk and drink outta the terlit... 

          3. seeyou | May 10, 2009 10:01pm | #37

            I don't allow anybody in the house that can lick their own junk

            I can, but choose not to. Can I come in?http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

          4. TomT226 | May 11, 2009 01:19pm | #41

            Only if you bring the beer...and wipe yer paws.... 

          5. sisyphus | May 11, 2009 03:50am | #39

            That's rough.

            Isn't toxoplasmosis the reason why you are supposed to keep kitty litter trays and babies apart?  

          6. TomT226 | May 11, 2009 01:17pm | #40

            That and other parasites carried by pets that have close contact with humans.  Kids may also be affected by Toxo/histoplasmosis through mothers milk, and may be infected at the time of birth by mothers fecal matter carrying the eggs.

            It's a nasty disease that should make people think twice about letting animals inhabit their homes... 

          7. MGMaxwell | May 17, 2009 12:58am | #57

            Histoplasmosis is exceedingly common in the Ohio River valley and for the most part is a benign illness that most people get who live there and pass it off as the flu or a cold. Only once in awhile is it disseminated and cause a problem.You can even play a smart trick on them by telling them where they grew up by looking at their chest x-ray or KUB because of the typical calcifications.

          8. dovetail97128 | May 17, 2009 01:17am | #58

            My lung heart doc did exactly that .
            Only missed a bit because I grew up in Cleveland area.
            They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

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        JeffBuck | May 09, 2009 09:28pm | #8

        don't know about raccoons ... I'm still avoiding any facts about squirrels ....

        spent the last coupla weeks doing soffit repair on a house with a squirrel infestation

        set up ladder ... insert prybar ... turn head and look away ... and pull!

         

        then choke and cough as we're now covered in 100 yr old house soot and squirrel nest material ... some of which ... I'd assume ... to be ... uh ... pellets?

        yeach.

         

        Jeff    Buck Construction

         Artistry In Carpentry

             Pittsburgh Pa

        1. Mooney | May 11, 2009 08:24pm | #46

          Youre doin my kind of work now instead of somebodies kitchen. 

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            JeffBuck | May 11, 2009 11:43pm | #47

            I always throw in as much dirt as I can thru out the year to remind me not to complain when I'm doing those kitchens!

            Got this siding job as everyone else they called, all siding companies, had no clue how to fix the soffits and overhangs ... one guy said it scared him!

            I told them .... I don't scare easy ...

            they asked how I was gonna fix it ... I said we'd all know for sure after I got up there and tore it apart! But said it's in the bid ... so I'd better find a way that's fairly fast!

            I did. (opened up the box gutter overhangs from below, didn't disturb the now not leaking gutters ... and rebuilt it surgically from the inside out, top down. All sealed up looks real nice ... )

             

            still ain't scared ...

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             Artistry In Carpentry

                 Pittsburgh Pa

          2. rez | May 12, 2009 04:57am | #48

            Just had 5 15yard dumpsters taken out of this house. Minimum of 1 foot of trash covering every area of the floor in the house. Not done yet.

            That was pretty much just the garage and one car size workshop that had 3 to 4 foot high trash stacked in there.

            Three sofas, bunch of chairs fridge and stove, all smashed down tight with a backhoe. I'm thinking two more dumpsters before it's done.

            Shoulda seen the size of the racoon turds. That was one big boy. Glad the owner volunteered to take care of that.

            Poor guy who owned the house had a mental problem and just couldn't throw anything away. Sad. 

          3. DanH | May 12, 2009 05:12am | #49

            Yeah, my dad had a secretary like that. She could dress to the nines, and did impeccable work, but her home was a literal garbage pit.Finally she developed more serious psychoses and my dad had to help get her into some sort of "facility".
            The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -John Kenneth Galbraith

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            JeffBuck | May 12, 2009 06:46am | #51

            it's always a shame to see big raccoon turds get thrown out like that ....

             

            Jeff    Buck Construction

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                 Pittsburgh Pa

          5. rez | May 12, 2009 04:12pm | #53

            yep, museum quality they were.

            Maybe it was from all the foamboard they'd been munching on.

            Or maybe they just had a system shock that propelled an oversized out when they did a chew on the live wiring.

            I knew it was live when I cracked the fridge door a hair to take a peek. Curiousity ya know. The little light went on in there.

            Could see a piled on blackened box of leftover Chinese carryout try to cascade out the door before I was able to get it shut.

            Duck taped the doors shut and dragged it out to where the backhoe lifted it to it's coffin and fitted it well with the bucket.

            chickaboom chickaboom, don't ya just love it 

            nope IMERC, this place I want no part of 

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            IMERC | May 12, 2009 02:20pm | #52

            that may be sad but there had to have been some good stuff in there... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          7. rez | May 16, 2009 06:06am | #54

            well, I lied. Remember this shed?

            View Image

            Moved a carpet and underneath was a slew of nice paquet flooring squares.

            The adhesive was nonexistant and I got to thinking about adding some windows and turning the dome shed into a cottage that could use a floor.

             

            be floored 

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            IMERC | May 16, 2009 03:16pm | #55

            certainly do....

            so where's the windows and beer frige...

            skip the carpet..... eaier to clean up without it... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          9. rez | May 17, 2009 04:50am | #59

            I meant the sad house deal I'm renovating had the carpet with the parquet under it.

            Decided to salvage the squares for the shed. 

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            IMERC | May 17, 2009 05:30pm | #60

            but there's no mention of the beer fridge.... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

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        JeffBuck | May 09, 2009 09:32pm | #9

        raccoons ...

         

        here ay go!

        http://icwdm.org/diseases/raccoonroundworm.asp    Buck Construction

         Artistry In Carpentry

             Pittsburgh Pa

        1. rez | May 09, 2009 09:46pm | #11

          Damn!

          I don't know about doing all this now.

           

          be second guessing. 

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            IMERC | May 09, 2009 10:05pm | #15

            but rez...

            the list just keeps getting longer...

            the good the bad and the ugly.... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

             

            "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

          2. wallyo | May 10, 2009 01:18am | #21

            Rez is this your property or a job site?If you don't want to do it, call a wildlife management company in your area. State fish and game might be of help with this.It is spendy can't remember exactly but I think total bill was 480.00, 200.00 or so was clean up. He charged by the raccoon for eradication. We had 5 or 7.I never checked but he said in our state relocation is not allowed. I called a volunteer group for advice they did not call back for several days so I called Dave. After a bit the volunteer group called back and got irate with me that I called in someone to trap and exterminate, cute little raccoons and all that. Have them live in your attic then is what I felt like telling her.Dave also said they have good memories if you relocate them they can find their way back.Wallyo

          3. oldbeachbum | May 10, 2009 01:24am | #23

            "Dave also said they have good memories if you relocate them they can find their way back."

             

            blindfold'em      ;0) 

            I'm not flippin' you off.........just counting cubits

          4. rez | May 10, 2009 02:04am | #27

            Big project of which raccoon f-e-c-e-s

            is only a little part.

             

            be a bit part 

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        IMERC | May 09, 2009 10:00pm | #14

        racoon.... nope... 

        Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

        WOW!!! What a Ride!

        Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

         

        "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

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    maddog3 | May 09, 2009 09:10pm | #3

    I think it was bear . . . . in the woods

    .

    .

    .

    . . . . . . . .

    1. MisterT | May 10, 2009 05:02pm | #33

      MANY Studies have shown.....
      .
      "After the laws of Physics, everything else is opinion" -Neil deGrasse Tyson
      .
      .
      .
      If Pasta and Antipasta meet is it the end of the Universe???
      .
      .
      .
      according to statistical analysis, "for some time now, bears apparently have been going to the bathroom in the woods."

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        maddog3 | May 10, 2009 06:46pm | #35

        yeah, but has anyone ever heard them ?.

        .

        .Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.

  4. oldbeachbum | May 09, 2009 09:18pm | #5

    Hanta virus....as in rodents?

     

    I'm not flippin' you off.........just counting cubits

  5. wallyo | May 09, 2009 09:19pm | #6

    Rez

    Good question we had raccoons in the attic of a rental, hired a wild life control expert to get rid of them. Aside form the possibility of rabies, ticks fleas, I was told by him that the #### can contain intestinal worm eggs. He also said the eggs can be viable to hatch for a period of up to 5 years. So even if you are dealing with old #### you must take precautions in removal. Correct mask, disposable suits, gloves, bleach etc. as precautions so as not to inhale or digestion the eggs yourself.

    One thing is raccoons tend to use a community latrine there may be several latrines but it makes things a bit easier to deal with.

    Wallyo

  6. DanH | May 09, 2009 09:35pm | #10

    They all do. Raccoons are known for carrying some sort of intestinal parasite, I believe. Bats, a lung fungus and, of course, rabies. And humans are probably the worst of all.

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -John Kenneth Galbraith
    1. Bob_B | May 10, 2009 05:42pm | #34

      cute little bunnies too. Landscapers with their leaf blowers getting disease via respatory system.

  7. seeyou | May 09, 2009 09:55pm | #12

    I don't think I'm going too far out on a limb when I say it's a pretty solid rule to keep all species' turds away from your face.

    http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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      PeteDraganic | May 11, 2009 04:09pm | #43

      >>>I don't think I'm going too far out on a limb when I say it's a pretty solid rule to keep all species' turds away from your face.>>>Great. NOW you tell me.

      <!----><!----><!----> 

      I refuse to accept that there are limitations to what we can accomplish.        Pete Draganic

       

      Take life as a test and shoot for a better score each day.          Matt Garcia

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    IMERC | May 09, 2009 09:59pm | #13

    deer mouse...

    hauntivirus...

     

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!! What a Ride!


    Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

     

    "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

  9. bobbys | May 09, 2009 10:25pm | #16

    I takes no chances so i always tastetest what pellets i sees to identify the species..

    This is the only surefire way to really find out!!!.

    Rather surprized no one mentioned this method already!!!

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      JeffBuck | May 09, 2009 10:46pm | #18

      I tell my boy that all the time ...

      so far he's smart enough to not fall for it.

       

      just last night a coupla the kids were looking at an ant that made it's say into the karate school and under the seats ... all the boys were gathered around looking at it ...

      I asked one "what kinda any is it?"

      he said "I dunno" ..

      so I told him to taste it to find out.

       

      again ... no such luck.

       

      Jeff    Buck Construction

       Artistry In Carpentry

           Pittsburgh Pa

      1. bobbys | May 09, 2009 11:47pm | #19

        I think a little dirt and poop is good for you, builds up your defense, One time a whole bunch of us drank from a stream and everybody got super sick sept me, I think there was a rotting elk upstream, But i had built up my immune system by drinking from puddles and old flower pots and muddy lakes!!!!!

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          JeffBuck | May 10, 2009 02:52am | #29

          that's the theory I try to follow ...

           

          I grew up tearing down plaster/lath ceilings in row houses a stones throw from the mill. Generation after generation of E European families living on top of each other there ... 100+ yr old buildings ... plus all the mill polution.

          Figured by age 12 I had the lungs of a 40 yr old coal miner. Had to have eaten at least a pound of black plague laden dust ...

          and for the most part ... I don't get sick. Never had the flu , am usually the last to catch any other bug that's going around .... of everyone else is down for 2 to 3 weeks it'll be one solid week before I'm back to 99%.

          Figure all my homegrown toxins kill what ever else tries to attack their host!

          Jeff    Buck Construction

           Artistry In Carpentry

               Pittsburgh Pa

          1. User avater
            Mongo | May 10, 2009 07:52am | #30

            It's the yeast sediment at the bottom of the beer bottle that gives you strength!

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            JeffBuck | May 11, 2009 03:44am | #38

            after 6 or 8 it certainly feels like it!

            Jeff    Buck Construction

             Artistry In Carpentry

                 Pittsburgh Pa

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      Luka | May 10, 2009 01:00am | #20

      Hey Chebordinek, what dat ?....You are always welcome at Quittintime

    3. oldbeachbum | May 10, 2009 01:22am | #22

      new Jeopardy category....................."Guess the Species by the ####"

       

      .................I'll take Taste, Smell or Feel for $500.00........................ 

      I'm not flippin' you off.........just counting cubits

      1. oldbeachbum | May 10, 2009 01:25am | #24

        oh, man........................now they block out f-e-c-e-s......what kind of shid is this? 

        I'm not flippin' you off.........just counting cubits

        1. bobbys | May 10, 2009 01:28am | #25

          I say poop or poopie

          1. seeyou | May 10, 2009 01:42am | #26

            I say poop or poopie

            Say it again. I like it when you talk dirty.http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

    4. AitchKay | May 11, 2009 03:49pm | #42

      The Grizzly poo tastes like pepper spray...AitchKay

      1. DanH | May 11, 2009 06:18pm | #44

        And has little bells in it.
        The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -John Kenneth Galbraith

    5. MGMaxwell | May 17, 2009 12:52am | #56

      I like to take people for a walk in the woods at my place in North Carolina. I'll see some deer pellets and call them Carolina Smart Berries....."here have one." The response..."this tastes like s###""Yeah, see you're smarter already"

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    BossHog | May 09, 2009 10:31pm | #17

    I think the coons are a lot more dangerous than their droppings.

    Disneyland: A people trap operated by a mouse.

  11. MikeSmith | May 10, 2009 02:28am | #28

    it's pigeons....  can be deadly

    Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
  12. BURT | May 11, 2009 08:18pm | #45

    The raccoon roundworm parasite is Baylisascaris procyonis.  Roundworms produce thousands of eggs because of the low likelyhood of any one of them finding the next host to infect.  In a human, the eggs do not develop beyond the larval stage.  The problem is they wander through the tissues of this host they are not adapted to.  The further problem is they like neural tissues and especially in young children can cause severe neurological problems.  A fecal fragment the size of an M&M candy can contain 40,000 eggs.

  13. [email protected] | May 12, 2009 06:21am | #50

    Proper removal, for the #### of just about any species, (if you have the space / access), is to saturate it with a mixture of one part chlorox, or other 5% hypochlorite bleach, 8 parts water, and a teaspoon of dish washing soap. Which is a cup of bleach, and two gallons of water, just the right amount to fill a small pressure sprayer. The resulting solution is about 750 to 800 part per million of available chlorine. Water systems are "shocked", to sanitize them, at 50 parts per million.

    You need to let it set for five to ten minutes so the bleach can kill things, then clean it up wearing rubber gloves, respirator, and eye protection. Use good practices to remove the safety gear.

    I know this will kill the viruses, bacteria, molds, and fungus. Round worm, or tape worm eggs might be resistant, but 800-ppm will probably destroy them also.

    If you do a web search for "cdc hantavirus" you will get some hits to instructions on how to clean up mouse nests. The safety precautions for that apply.

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