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Weatherproof in use round box covers?

webted | Posted in Construction Techniques on May 29, 2009 09:38am

Hi:

Rough electrical just finished up at my house, (finish work is my responsibility) and I was a little surprised to see that they used 4″ round phenolic boxes for my planned outdoor duplex receptacles. When I’ve installed outdoor receptacles, I’ve always come off of a rectangular box.

So, here’s the question: does anyone sell a weatherproof in use cover for a round box? So far, the only thing I’ve found was a brass cover that Carlton sells, but it’s a round cover with two snap backs covering each outlet – it’s for wet use, but not weatherproof IN use.

Thanks,

-t

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  1. KFC | May 29, 2009 10:44pm | #1

    Not that I've seen, but let's see what the electricians have to say.

    k

  2. JTC1 | May 30, 2009 12:19am | #2

    Never seen such an animal. But that does not prove they don't exist.

    Have seen round covers with a duplex opening, most often with the signage for a furnace shut-off switch --- not weathertight.

    Have also seen round box covers which will house a GFCI - again, not weathertight.

    Suggestion: Maybe get a plain, flat, weatherproof cover plate; cut it out appropriately - mount bubble and duplex via the duplex mounting screw holes with nuts on the inside?

    In the above scenario, the duplex and bubble would be attached to the flat plate with machine screws and nuts (bubble outside, duplex inside when assembled).  Electrical connections made.  Then the entire assembly attached (and gasketed) to the round wall box via cover the plate screws into round box.

    I realize it is not SOP, but our inspector has approved such "variations" if he thinks the installation is safe and workmanlike. In this case, also weather tight.

    The same idea as the covers for some exposed work 4x4 boxes which house 2 duplex outlets, except, now you add a bubble on the outside.

    Duplex? GFCI breaker? or make rectangular hole for wall mounted unit - easier to cut out for GFCI.

    Round boxes for the outside outlets,...musta' been late Friday afternoon .........

    Jim

    Never underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.
  3. RichMast | May 30, 2009 03:55am | #3

    Arlington makes one: http://aifittings.com/whnew89a.htm 

    Never tried it, just came across it on a search.  The brand has been around a long time.

    Hope this helps.  Rich
    1. JTC1 | May 30, 2009 04:02am | #4

      There you go!

      Not round but it fits a 4" round box. Looks pretty good too!

      JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

    2. KFC | May 30, 2009 07:50am | #5

      I've used the AI "in-box".  Liked it a lot.  They've got a bunch of different ones for different applications (stucco, vinyl, retrofit, etc. etc.).

      Not round, though, as far as I know.

      k

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        BillHartmann | May 30, 2009 02:52pm | #6

        That is an the InOut Box. It is strickly a cover and sticks out more than the InBox.The InBox is the cover and box and the area for the receptacle is recessed so it is more compact. http://www.aifittings.com/whnew73.htmhttp://www.aifittings.com/whnew74.htm
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        1. webted | Jun 01, 2009 08:29pm | #7

          So, what's your take on the round boxes for exterior receptacles? A lazy install, a screw-up by an apprentice, or SOP?-t

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            BillHartmann | Jun 01, 2009 10:19pm | #9

            My guess is that the box was with 3 ft of t he installer and he would have had to make a "trip" of 30 ft to get the right box.
            .
            William the Geezer, the sequel to Billy the Kid - Shoe

    3. webted | Jun 01, 2009 08:33pm | #8

      Pretty cool! I wish I had known about these earlier, they look to make a much neater installation.The "in boxes" are definitely going on my list for future installs. -t

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