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   rez | Oct 30, 2007 03:12am | #1

   Greetings Mpls,

   This post, in response to your question, will bump the thread through the 'recent discussion' listing again which will increase it's viewing.

   Perhaps it will catch someone's attention that can help you with advice.

   Cheers

    

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   Mpls1921 | Oct 31, 2007 10:32pm | #2

   Hmm...

   Everyone burned out on storm window talk?

   Thanks,

   Erik

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   rez | Nov 01, 2007 12:35am | #3

   Question is 'will it hurt?'. 

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   rasher | Nov 01, 2007 01:36am | #4

   We used the EPDM rubber "W" section weatherstrip that you get at the hardware store, about 6 bucks for a 17-19' long strip. It's self adhesive, but we used galv. staples through it every 12" or so. Applied to the outside face of the window jamb that the storm butts against. Our trim was painted white, and so is the weatherstrip, so it just disappears. Our storm window control arms work in a manner that actually sucks the storm hard into the weatherstrip: very good seal.
   We left the bottom edge without weatherstrip so that any moist air could escape. Two years and still working well for us. No condensation problems and 40% lower gas bills.

   The folks at Adams were sure nice to deal with, huh?

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   MikeK | Nov 01, 2007 05:40am | #5

   I have adams architectural storms on my house. I used EDPM "D Shaped" adhesive backed foam weatherstripping under the storm. When I fasten the hook on the bottom of the window it pulls the storm tight and compressed the foam. Works like a charm.

   Mike K
   Aurora, IL

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   Mpls1921 | Nov 01, 2007 06:37am | #6

   Adams has been fine to deal with so far.  I will say that their web page sorely needs to be updated with info about the combination storm.  I have not received my order yet, should this week or next.

   I was surprised that they didn't recommened weatherstripping.  I think I am going to go with the W-shaped stuff and back up the self adhesive with staples.  Why did you put the weatherstripping on the house instead of the storm?

   Another thing that surprised me was the way they paint them.  There is an option to have them factory primed with an oil-based primer.  Was going to do it, but then they told me they only prime them front and back, not the sides.  I asked why and they said they don't recccomend painting the edges, just the front and back face... seems to me that painting all the way around would be better to prevent moisture from absorbing, etc.

   I am going to paint them with SW Duration...supposed to be self-priming on new wood.

   Any tips on mounting?  I ordered the hangers and hooks.  My house still has the orig brackets mounted above the windows, so I was thinking I could put the frames in, lift them off the sill with a shim to make them tight at the top, and then attach the the hanger to the storm frame while using the existing bracket on the house.  How do you make sure the inside hook pulls the frame tight enough?

    

   ThanksErik

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   MikeK | Nov 01, 2007 03:49pm | #7

   I got mine factory primed and all the edges were primed. Not sure why they have changed. I would require that all edges be primed.

   I put the weatherstripping on the house instead of the storm, because it is easier and because I put up some storms with just primer. Did not have time to get them all painted right away. I like the "D" shaped stuff because it has a wider range of thickness between compressed and non-compressed then the "w" shaped stuff. Lowes has a very good selection of weatherstripping.

   The one thing you want to make sure you do is upgrade the clips that hold the storm window insert in the wood frame. The standard clips I got were flimsy and thin and they broke easily. I had an incident where the wind blew the glass insert off the frame and into the baby's crib because half the clips were broken. (Sash had been removed for painting). Luckily the baby was not in the crib.

    I called Adams and Patti sent me some stronger clips at no charge. This is a company that stands behind there product. I would definitely recommend them.

   I got some metal storm hangers from Adams, but I didn't like them because they are too shiny. I went online and got some brushed nickel ones. If you already have hangers and they are in good shape you can probably use them. You do NOT want to get the top of the storm too tight, or you will not be able to ever lift the storm off the hooks.

   Mike K

   Aurora, IL

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   Mpls1921 | Nov 03, 2007 04:16am | #8

   Got them today, look very nice except one little problem...

   There seems to have been some confusion about the measurements.  I submited the size of the opening, they took them as the actual size of the storms... oops.

   I looked at the extimate, it says all sizes are "actual".  I guess I was thinking that ment actual size of the opening, with no adjustment for clearence.

   So now I need to fix this quick, because it looks like monday will be to cold to paint.

   I am going to use an electric handheld planer to take off the excess material...

   It's never easy!

   Erik

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   mmoogie | Nov 04, 2007 02:32am | #9

   If you know anyone with a Festo rail-guided saw you could borrow, it makes trimming them in a snap. I was just doing a bunch today.Steve

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   Mpls1921 | Nov 05, 2007 06:51am | #10

   Thanks, I ended up using the electric planer because that's what I had...

   Worked fine, and actually let me fine tune each storm a bit to fit each window...

   Got two coats of duration on, but looks like I'll need a third... the color is a "eggplant" purple (ultra deep base)...  guess I'll be doing that in the basement due to temps...

   Thanks!

    

   Erik

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   MikeK | Nov 06, 2007 09:19am | #11

   Best to use a dark tinted primer when painting with red pigment paint. I used the Gripper brand dark gray primer before painting my storms red. Almost covered in one coat.Mike