Take a look, and comment. One of our good local builders. “Crew page” is the link you want. Appears quite timely and dynamic.
Good idea, or bad? Bet a techsmart person can manage that web page with her handheld.
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It's not dynamic. It's all static HTML. Which means someone has to edit that page (either handcoding the HTML, or using some editing software) every time there is a change. Probably not too big a deal with a crew that small and if the change only happens once a week. Otherwise, they'd be much better off with a database application, even if it was just an Excel sheet that got loaded up as needed.
The bigger question is why in the world someone would be foolish enough to post confidential data like that on an open web page. That's what firewalls and password protected areas are for.
If I was a client or employee, I wouldn't be real stoked to see my info flapping in the breeze like that.
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Wait! Where's the love?
Weren't you just voted "Miss Congeniality" in some other thread?
Jus' cuz yer a computer guy, sheesh.
Forrest - yeah, actually I agree with what you say, but you've got a rep to uphold that most of us #### can only dream of . . .
I realized I'm going to have to sharpen my claws if I'm ever going to grab the Miss BT sash :)I hope it wasn't terribly harsh. It's just that it's easy enough to secure stuff like that, and while people oughtn't freak out about privacy issues as much as they do, they ought to take them a bit more seriously in cases like this.Is the McDesign clan coming up this way for the holiday frivolity? If so, perhaps we can arrange a drink or two.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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DW's clan, but us, in Mexico somewhere resort-ee. They're coming here for Christmas, tho.
I feel like resorts could be in Miami, or DuBuque, for that matter - where's the fun in that?
Perhaps we can arrange some joint proxy tippling via BT on the holiday.
Forrest - playing on the house during all the holidays this year-end
I sincerely doubt that it's hand-coded HTML. If it were anyone with half a brain would declare a stylesheet class for all of the table cells, vs coding a style for each one. The fact that the table is all coded in upper case (and nothing else is) suggests that the table was produced by a program. At the very least it looks like it's assembled from several pieces, rather than all being edited as one page.For a client-side implementation one could do it with a little JavaScript and an XML page for the data, thus avoiding having to edit the main HTML or have an active server.It is a bit stupid to put this out in public, without any password protection. Some employee and customer privacy issues, plus it gives your competition an easy snapshot as to what's going on (and who's doing it).
A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm, thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to others. It's a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity. --Jimmy Carter
I didn't mean the initial install was hand-coded, just that any changes would have to be done that way. Looks like a Network Solutions template.It's not the end of the world that that info is out there, but it's not a good idea on so many levels.That said, putting info like this out there in a secured environment makes great sense, especially in the days of handheld devices.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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The table, to me, looks exactly like what you'd get out of a JSP.
A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm, thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to others. It's a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity. --Jimmy Carter
we been trying to get automated with paperwork done on pda. as soon as the paperwork finish it at the office server, no matter where I,m at in United states. but out of a crew of 37 people, only about four is computer savy enough to pull it off.
You be amaze at how many people dont care about the job and just want money and beer. We got some so old fashion that still use pencil and typewriters.
Looks like they have a 2- or 3-day week scheduled for most of their guys. Why they'd broadcast the schedule is beyond me. Wouldn't it be easier to send a mass email to all employees every Sunday?
"Looks like they have a 2- or 3-day week scheduled for most of their guys. "Holidays..
William the Geezer, the sequel to Billy the Kid - Shoe
short week, turkey day coming
Deer hunting season in the Adirondacks.
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"A stripe is just as real as a dadgummed flower."
Gene Davis 1920-1985
That appears to be a very simple Excel file. I think it's excellent. Visually, it's very easy to see and understand and it follows the KISS philosophy.
I grabbed their employee policy doc. That's a great document...25 pages of well written and clear policy. I'd be tweaking it to fit my situation if I ever get another employee.
Thanks for the post.
And if you are looking to hire new folks and steal them from someone, you know where to find them. Except that the boss is "at large" and may find you there chatting.
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"A stripe is just as real as a dadgummed flower."
Gene Davis 1920-1985
I forgot to mention....the "roofing specialist" should probably think about starting the shingles from the bottom LOL. Felt would be nice and a hammer with nails will work great too. The shingles will stay up till he gets paid that way.
Seriously, after I read the other comments, I went back to see what type of sensitive information was posted. There were last names of workers and last names of clients. There is nothing too revealing there but I could see where it might make sense to hide the client's names but really, all of that info might already be public knowledge. For instance, when I ran my framing crew, it was very easy to know where I would be working every day....just drive by the sub.
This got me to thinking...have we become too paranoid as a nation about all sorts of insignificant information? Do we really have to keep secret the jobs we are working?
Nothing is secret from those that want to find out.
Read that story, "Gone," in the latest issue of Wired magazine.
In my local jurisdiction, the "building department" seems to operate on a freedom-of-info basis, in that for any permit issued, anybody can request the file and find out info such as property owner, contractor, declared value of workscope, and then read all the drawings and specs.
So as far as "my jobs are secret and my client info is private," I would say that is not so, at least in my locale.
Back before the information age, you would read an article in Architectural Digest, Architectural Record, Fine Homebuilding, and other rags, and routinely see that the editors were doing their best to protect privacy of property owners and other private citizens. They still put on that face, but the privacy is mostly gone, IMHO.
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"A stripe is just as real as a dadgummed flower."
Gene Davis 1920-1985
>>the "building department" seems to operate on a freedom-of-info basis, in that for any permit issued, anybody can request the file and find out info such as property owner, contractor, declared value of workscope, and then read all the drawings and specs
That's public info everywhere you go.
Guy tells his wife that he's got to work, but really has gotten the day off and goes off with his GF to Reno. Wife looks up online to see where he is and finds him out. Wife shoots guy when he gets home. Guy survives and sues employer for letting out personal information.
A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm, thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to others. It's a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity. --Jimmy Carter
LOL...Yep...it should be encripted!
I think our permit office sells the info, I was getting junk mail before the mail box went up, and it was address to me at the new address, within days of the permit
There are marketing firms that record all transactions daily in the offices. They compile the stats and sell them to folks like us.