I have been looking for some heavy duty round locks but I keep finding these locks round that have no exposed bar are they compatible with all hasp or do they need special hasps?
Any other suggestions?
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Are you talking about the American brand locks that look like a hockey puck?
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the hockey pucktype is pretty good,but with any of them a small torch and it's theirs.
looking at the post on your trailer,what a trailer.
if i was running that ,loaded with tools, i would have a gps locater on it just in case someone does hook on. oh and insurance.
i always thought a 1 7/8 ball was pretty good,because the thief will probably only have a 2! at least thats how it goes for me when i need to hook up a trailer with 1 7/8.
the older i get ,
the more people tick me off
I have a small welding trailer that came with an adjustable tongue, a sort of bracket with multiple holes spaced about an inch apart so you can raise or lower the tongue.
All you have to do is remove four bolts and the trailer is tongueless. I realized it may be an effective deterent to an unprepared theif, thinking many crimes are crimes of opportunity?
I'd do a Google search. I was looking for a Kryptonte bike lock or similar for my daughter who lives in Manhattan. I was amazed at some of the reviews. apparently the bike lock that costs over $100 was easily pickable with the tip of a pen that is sliced in an X design at the tip. Apparently one could stick that cut tip in the keyhole,twist and it opened in a second.
There's a real lot of stuff about locks online with repeated reviews not just isolated instances.
I'd for sure have a LoJack or similar device planted in the trailer with a sign warning would-be thieves.
Nice score dude...use it well and enjoy.
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Andy, those things you read were somewhat misleading. The 'pick it with a pen' issue arose when Kryptonite came out with a scaled-down version of their lock, using a variation of the locks found in some handcuffs as the locking mechanism.
The standard Kryptonite locks remain very successful in deterring theft. For example, combined with a cable they are great security for ladders.
I have lost keys to kryptonite locks as well as countless others and have yet to run across a lock that can't be opened in a minute or two with a cordless drill and a 1/4" bit.I seem to recall seeing some locks with a steel insert covering most of the brass keyway to prevent drilling out the lock. Not sure how to get around that but I wouldn't be surprised to see a youtube video showing how to open one without a key.Youtube has countless videos showing how effortless it is to open the master brass combination locks I started using to remedy my tendency to lock my keys (to the truck and the gang box) which were in my nailbags in the gangbox. I think the only way to secure valuables is with a custom/homemade locking mechanism that a would be thief would have to start from scratch figuring out.Even just an inconspicuous allen head bolt that needs to be rotated a quarter turn to open a door would probably be more secure than a heavy duty lock that has been around for several years.I used to work for a guy who would tell us, "we might as well keep the honest people honest" as we would chain up the ladders and lock the gangboxes at the end of the day.If a determined thief wants to get at your stuff I don't know that there is much that will stop them.
Good post...your post was exactly the point I was getting at. Best to really scour the internet for something as important as securing all your tools. These kids now a daze come up with all kinda hacks N trix.View Image
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i'll throw out what i did to theft proof a trailer. i'll take that back,slow the thief down till he goes somewhere else. i still had a tounge lock on it.
take a 3/8 bit and drill a hole right in the top center of the ball on the tounge hitch area. the puut a 3/8 blot hanging down in the hole about a 1/2",from the top weld this bolt in place. so now you have a "pin sticking down" where the ball goes.
then go to your ball and drill a 1/2 hole, 5/8 deep. now that hitch is only going to fit that ball. if i pull up to hook on the tounge latch will not drop on my ball enough to latch it.
the disadvantage is, it won't hook on your buddies truck without switching balls.
with this they could say "lets pull it anyway"but the first big bump it's coming off.the older i get ,
the more people tick me off
If a determined thief wants to get at your stuff I don't know that there is much that will stop them.
Agreed. That's why my trailer spends every night in my garage. No worries for me, no temptation for an enterprising thief.
I assume you are talking about this lock:
http://www.everysafe.com/asp/show_image.asp?pr=0&sku=YH1000&imgs=http%3A%2F%2Fcommon2.csnimages.com%2Flf%2F1%2Fhash%2F756%2F345325%2F1%2FA2000%2BSeries%2BRekeyable%2BHidden%2BShackle%2BPadlock.jpg
I can't think of a better padlock.
I have used it with a variety of ordinary hasps, though the fit is sometimes pretty tight. Still, I would encourage you to get one of the haspa American makes especially for this lock.
For example, This hasp is the cat's meow for a trailer:
http://www.everysafe.com/asp/show_image.asp?pr=0&sku=YH1079&imgs=http%3A%2F%2Fcommon1.csnimages.com%2Flf%2F1%2Fhash%2F756%2F345372%2F1%2FHeavy%2BDuty%2BHidden%2BShackle%2BPadlock%2BHasp.jpg
Even the 'ordinary' looking hasps are of much heavier, harder material than the hasps you find in a hardware store.
One caution, though: In using this lock with ordinary hasps, there have been several times where I have been fooled into thinking the lock was locked, and it was not. As a result, I lost the lock along the road somewhere when it shook itself off the truck. I solved this problem by tack-welding the lock to the hasp. Had I used an 'official' hasp, the thicker metal would have prevented me from being fooled by the cam catching on the hasp, rather than the lock body.
Torch it off? Yea, right. With 1-1/4 of solid steel in that body, and no way to access the shackle inside, I can't think of any application where the hasp or door isn't a weaker link in the system.
inside a concrete bunker with no windows and no doors
>Any other suggestions?<
2 or 3 very hungry German Shepherds.
Don't leave that thing out of sight.
Andy,
I bought a set of those hockey pucks for my tooltrailer-They DO NOT FIT! Maybe with some mods they'd work, but I got 3 keyed alike sitting on a shelf somewhere unused.
I bought the round locks masterlock with part of the bar exposed and they work but they are hard to get off .
I was afraid the solid ones would be a bear.
Everybody calls it the taco wagon.
I am jokingly thinking about buying a matching chuck wagon truck to tow it.
my tires are a set of douglas street tires 35 lb pressure.
Really suprises me they aren't a set of e rated trailer tires.
Wondered what came with yours?
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Same, car tires. No problems with tires though.
And yeah, I've had many a wise guy ask me to serve em a hot dog.
When I bought my Dumpster-sized Knaack box used, it was locked with a standard Master padlock, no key.
Five seconds with a cordless drill, and I was in.
So I talked to my locksmith, and he recommended Medeco padlocks with a hardened keyway. At $120 a pop (15 years ago) I passed, but they sounded good.
AitchKay
You've got to admit that the advent of cordless tools has really changed the way everyone does their job - including thieves.
Rather like 'Spy vs. Spy." is a constantly evolving contest of methods.
For example, when the job-site boxes were introduced, the 'trick' way of defeating a padlock was to either cut the hasp, or use leverage to break the shackle on the lock. Out comes the cordless drill, and Greenlee changes their boxes so a drill can't reach the lock body.
Another example is the hefty shackle on those U-shaped bike locks; just fine, until everyone got a cordless grinder!
Of course, nothing is secure in and of itself; you need an active response. So, now we see some alarms and tracking devices being introduced.
Getting back to the original thread ... What I like most about the 'hockey puck' locks is that they're not bouncing about as you drive down the road. They're not trashing the side of the trailer at every pothole.
I also see the need for some manner of 'mobility prevention.' Whether this is a tongue lock or a chain through the frame and a wheel, there ought to be a way to make the trailer less portable. Some guys, on extended stays, just put the trailer on blocks and remove the wheels.
I'm waiting for some clever soul to violate a few trademark laws, and paint / texture / label his trailer so that it looks just like a VERY big Ft. Knox safe on wheels :D (If you can't beat them, BS them!)
"You've got to admit that the advent of cordless tools has really changed the way everyone does their job - including thieves."Yeah, when I was talking to that locksmith about it back in '94, I said, "I know the bad guys have cordless drills, 'cuz they've got three of mine!"As for "mobility prevention," I like alwaysoverbudget's pin-and-hole system -- sort of like some styles of security screws, but better: with security screws, one glance and you know what type of bit to bring next time.But with that pin-and-hole system, it's unlikely that anyone is ever going to figure out why they can't hitch up.AitchKay
>there ought to be a way to make the trailer less portable<
I always thought there could be an easy way to lock brake (or maybe a sprocket with matching geared piece to act as a lock) on a trailer but not sure how expensive it would be. Only access would be to remove the wheel which could be installed with wheel locks or anything to slow them down long enough to increase their risks of being caught in the act.
I know I've seen a sort of Denver Boot on a work trailer before, but I don't know who makes one.AitchKay
Park a telehandler and lower the boom over the tailgate..
good untill they steal the telehandler