Someone refered to this as an eyebrow, but I don’t think that is actually what it is. If it is, good. If not, could someone help identify this?
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Thanks. Its a cornice return.
Is that anything like a cornice game hen ???(-:.BTW - I got yer email. The reason truss manufacturers don't generally have websites is that they don't need that kind of marketing. Most of their sales is repeat business, or by local referrals. Set up a website, and all sorts of nutcases will contact you from 1,000 miles away trying to buy $200 worth of trusses. The company I work for has a website, and that's what generally seems to happen.
In calm water every ship has a good captain. [Swedish Proverb]
Wait . . . I thought THIS was your website. I mean, nutcases from 1,000 miles away ask you truss questions without buying a dang thing.
And you answer them ! Uh, I mean, us !
Keep up the good work !
Greg
Edited 3/10/2006 10:00 am ET by GregGibson
Well, there are plenty of nutcases here. (-:But to explain a but further - We've NEVER gotten a job from our website. What we do get are a lot of tire kickers and people who are shopping 20 different places for the cheapest price. And the nutcases who don't realize that it doesn't make sense to ship $200 worth of trusses 1,000 miles. Our regular customers are largely people who know us from past dealings. They know us, and how to get ahold of us. They aren't going to use a website. I had thought we might get soem owner-builder jobs from the website, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Most of them just ask around locally to find out who to use. And they really aren't a prime market anyway.
There's a hole lot to see at the Grand Canyon.
$200 worth of trusses
Isn't that only like a pallet?
I'm trying to imagine buying just one truss.
Tho- I do know of a dufus who wanted trusses for a storage shed (what he expected to get to span 8' at 2/12 pitch, I still don't know; basswood, maybe?)Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Probably the shortest trusses I've gotten an order for was 30" long. (That's 30 inches, not 30 feet)We get orders all the time for 8' and 10' trusses for storage sheds and the like. Sometimes people are too lazy to frame a small roof. Sometimes they don't know how.
If you build it, he will come [Field of Dreams]
Is that anything like a cornice game hen ???
Only if baked with an herbed butter . . . <G>Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
We do call these eyebrows, and it is a common description, cornice return also works.
According to what I have heard and seen: if this is not an eyebrow, what is an eyebrow (for wisecrackers: eyebrow as related to home construction parts)?
Eyebrow
Eyebrow: A low dormer on the slope of a roof. It has no sides, the roofing being carried over it in a wavy line
Eyebrow window: A window in an eyebrow dormerEyebrow eave: On a shingled roof, an eave that is carried over a door entry in a wavy linejt8
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John
OK, eye em neaow mulch bedder edjewmakated.
I do not see the eyebrows (as correctly defined) much, and do not think the correct definition is going to change much of the cornice returns that are commonly refered to as an eyebrow around here....at least I will know.
Thanks
Edited 3/10/2006 1:32 pm ET by txlandlord
No No No it is now YOUR job to educate the masses.
Good luck ;-)
Ok, I am in TX.
How do you say, "From now on, you will now refer to eyebrows as cornice returns.", in Spanish?
Are the definitions and pictures avaliable in Spanish? Note: Spanish pictures are usually velvet with black background.
No problem....post this....the word will get around.
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Amigos,
From now on, all "eyebrows" in Texas, and the entire US, will be will be referred to as "Cornice Returns".
Failure to follow this procedure could result in deportation.
Gracias,
Estados Unitas de America
If you deport them on Friday, they show up for work on Monday.
If you deport them during the week, they call in sick the next day and show up for work the following day.
Deportation is not a perceived threat, it just means a free bus ride to see the wife and kids.
how to say it in spanish--
De ahora en adelante 'Cejas' seran llamados 'cornicios griegos' o 'cornicios vueltos'
But I imagine that they don't really call it either of those words in spanish--their construction terms are pretty simple... its probabaly 'esquina del techo' the corner of the roof.
That is a pretty funny piece about deportation being a free ride to see the kids--definately some truth to that.
As for around here we call them Hip returns
"From now on, you will now refer to eyebrows as cornice returns.", in Spanish?
ES EESE Corny-SEEYA Voo-elTAYS mas tempos AH-See (gonna be in Spanlish, anywhos)
Fajas vuelteños Cornicias would probably be most accurate. Mostly.
Hmm. "lambchop" is, ah tahada, hmm, "steak" won't be right, ah, pierna is leg--so the other rake return would be peirna de la tahada . . . ? I'm gonna guess the Contruction Spanglish is vuelta lemchop where it's not retunas rak-ahs . . . <G>Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
The eyebrow is that elliptical curved window in a roof.as a roofer, we used to call the cornice returns "Underarms" because they stunk to have to spend time roofing, and 'cause they were up under there
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Armpits is good, as a framer we could run a whole side of flat work frame / cornice in the same time it took us to frame and cornice one of those little armpits.
What is it?
An eyebrow dormer is a dormer that does not have a gable. Instead, the roofing material goes over the top of the eyebrow dormer in a smooth fashion.
Give me an example!
Instead of being pointy like the top of a dormer with a gable, the top of the eyebrow dormer is smooth and curved -- like an eyebrow! The eyebrow dormer performs the same function as a dormer with a gable because it allows sunlight into an upstairs bedroom. However, its distinctive style gives it a different form than a gabled dormer.
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Thanks all for helping me learn the identification. I posted a Help Wanted ad for the repair I will not personally be undertaking.
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Great website, I like the pictures.
We call it a Greek Return at my office.
I like that. It really truly is a greek style artifact. matter of fact, I hesitated to say that in the original there is no reason other than sheddding watyer to have any pitch on this whatysoever. This piecve represents the capital of a column. when there is a corner board, the corner represents the column so the size of the return must be balanced equally to either side of that corner boardI think I might have a photo that illustrates, though not in closeupanyways - it does come from the Greek Revival Architectural style
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Thanks, did I post a bad one?
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there oughta be a law.. no mounting satellite dishes on pretty houses !
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Not my doing, honestI have had a couple go-'rounds with dish mounting men. They get a set price for an installation no matter how long it takes so guess how long they are willing to take?
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Nah, just ribbin' ya. Seemed a little light.
be lit
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I'm pretty sure that this cornice return is fabricated from stock lumber. Considering that it warped, pulling the improperly-installed flashing away from the brick facade, is it reccommended to use something more static like marine plywood or some sort of engineered material more inclined to not warp again in the future?
"I hesitated to say that in the original there is no reason other than sheddding watyer to have any pitch on this whatysoever."Don't birds like the flat ones more than the pitched ones? Hence those silly looking nets I sometimes see around the flat cornice returns on some houses."Oh, this is the worst-looking hat I ever saw. What, when you buy a hat like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh? Oh, it looks good on you though."
Edited 3/13/2006 1:43 pm ET by xosder11
We call that a hip return. They are also called Queen Annes here too.
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I call em "wrap it up in copper" and pay me. Unless ya have a flashing nightmare to the wall, in and out in 30 minutes each.
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I have seen it called eyebrow