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What is this kind of eave detail called?

forrestmaready | Posted in General Discussion on March 23, 2009 10:36am

Here’s a quick mockup:
https://images.finehomebuilding.com/app/uploads/2019/01/26002416/EavesDetail.jpg

I saw it in the Taunton Small Houses 2 book (which is now in storage). It was on what looked like a schoolhouse. The trim work was white and really beefy. The eaves detail looked sort of like below- almost a second piece of trim from the original roof.

Does anyone know if this has a name, or have any other pictures of this technique? Thank you so much.


Edited 3/23/2009 3:38 pm ET by forrestmaready

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  1. MikeSmith | Mar 23, 2009 11:23pm | #1

    i'd  call it  a  "chalet  style  "  roof  trim

    or... it's  real  use....

    pigeon  roosts

     

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    if  you  don't  have  real  purlins  to  set  the  fly on  you  can make  brackets  that  will  also  give  the  same  effect

     

    Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
    1. MikeSmith | Mar 23, 2009 11:39pm | #2

      forrest......

      this  is  similar, but  not  as  many  brackets

      View ImageMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

      1. forrestmaready | Mar 24, 2009 02:28am | #3

        Thanks Mike! I actually found an image of the house. It was in "The New Cottage" book, not the Small Houses book.

        Please take a look at this and tell me what this is called. The book refers to them as "outlook-style bargeboards". I've never heard of that.

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          Dam_inspector | Mar 24, 2009 02:58am | #5

          I call it cute but soon rotten roof.

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          mmoogie | Mar 24, 2009 04:58am | #6

          Goofy superfluous detail roof style?

          1. forrestmaready | Mar 24, 2009 05:04am | #7

            Now my feelings are hurt. Not only is the structural integrity of my favorite roofline of all time being questioned, so is the aesthetic nature as well. Please someone, point me to a correct cottage roofline that is structurally sound and not superfluous and goofy.

          2. MikeSmith | Mar 24, 2009 05:13am | #8

            it's a takeoff on the victorian summer camps...
            yo can find tem were ever there were large smmer colonieswa couple come to mind like Oak Bluffs, Martha's Vineyard or the north end of the town i live inthe "bargeboards" were to represent the tent hangings they replacedthe summer colonies developed like thistents
            then tents with wooden floors
            then small cabins that looked like tents
            and they all had the same lies and decoration as the original tentsMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restoren

          3. forrestmaready | Mar 24, 2009 05:17am | #9

            ..."and they all had the same lies and decoration as the original tents"Lies- was that a Freudian slip, or did you mean lines?Thanks for that info, though. I'd never heard it.

          4. MikeSmith | Mar 24, 2009 05:18am | #10

            http://www.mvbestreadguide.com/maps_and_tours/walking_tours/walk_oak_bluffs.phpnote that one of the first cottages was shipped from Rhode Islandlook at this for the whole evolution especially page 19http://books.google.com/books?id=hnqrw69mMdwC&pg=PA25lpg=PA25&dq=Lawton+Cottage,+Oak++Bluffs+,+Marthas++vineyard&source=bl&ots=i3YKaO91Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / RestoreEdited 3/23/2009 10:22 pm ET by MikeSmith

            Edited 3/23/2009 10:23 pm ET by MikeSmith

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            mmoogie | Mar 24, 2009 06:07am | #11

            Sorry. I meant it in an affectionate way ;-) I work on a lot of older houses with all manner of goofy superfluous details. They do add charm. But I have to agree with the others that this particular detail is a recipe for wet connections that will eventually deteriorate. At the very least you would want to use a rot-resistant species for the brackets and fly rafters, and better yet, flash where the rafters sit on the brackets.Steve

          6. forrestmaready | Mar 24, 2009 03:35pm | #12

            Mike-
            Thanks for the links. That book on Google is fascinating- I think I'll pick it up. My one week stay at Martha's Vineyard was on Otis Basett Rd (West Tisbury I think) while I worked on a movie called "Shallow Hal". But the week was enough of a taste of things to make me want an interesting home one day. We're currently designing our house and hoping to break ground at the end of April. I love the stories to back up the details.Steve-
            No harm no foul. I was kidding about being hurt- As a commercial artist I've got really thick skin and don't mind my decisions being questioned. I don't mind the goofy and superfluous but am concerned about rot.Don't tell anyone here but I'm looking into using aluminum extrusion for the fly rafters.

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    McDesign | Mar 24, 2009 02:45am | #4

    "Roof-not-big-enough" style?

     

    The other Forrest

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