Who or where makes a replacement for these things?
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Unless you get lucky in a salvage yard, I doubt you will find any source selling an asbestos product these days. You may want to try resources from preservation websites. I believe there is a cementitious look-alike available. Good Luck.
...that's not a mistake, it's rustic
I know the original type is no longer made due to law suits & bankruptcy.
Found these aluminum shingles,
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http://www.atas.com/aim/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=75&text=&imageid=540&box=&shownew=
but haven't found any cement types yet. I'd prefer something like the originals, not metal.
Joe H
How many do you need? Is this for a repair or a new roof? How thick are they? Could you cut them out of Hardibacker and stain them?
New roof. I don't think that fuzzy edge of cut Hardi would look too good, and how to stain them and have it last?
The ones in the picture are probably 60+ years old and still have some color to them. There are a number of these old houses locally and the shingles are all different colors. Johns Manville Lifetime Roof, they weren't kidding.
Need to find some reproductions, they must be out there somewhere.
Joe H
Joe,
Sure looks alot like the type that were on my In-laws house before we stripped it a few years back. At first they wanted to replace them with the same kind because they liked the look of the pattern, so I had checked into availablility.
My late Father-in-law, who was a handyman around the house, told me that the shingles were fastened together with staples and a big lever action staple gun.
I was just a little skeptical about his claim but sure enough when I located a manufacturer and saw the instructions, he was correct. While stripping the shingles, which were organic asphalt, the top and two side tabs were nailed and sure enough there was a copper wire staple under the bottom tab stiching it to the shingle below. Was there asbestos in them? I-duh-no, looked like all the rest of the debris in the dumpster
We ended re-roofing with regular shingles after my research. Seems they are primarily used over a layer of existing shingles, or as the manufacturer states, "Not recommended for new roofing unless over 15# felt". I wouldn't ever do that, considering the fact that this particular brand has only a two inch lap along the lower angled edges of the shingle with only a bent piece of wire holding it down
This info is from June of '98 that was faxed to me by the shingle manufacturer.
Globe Building Materials
2230 Indianapolis Blvd
Whiting, Indiana 46394
219-473-4500
1-800-950-4562
Order dept. Fax# 800-477-4519
Hope this helps as it is my first post even though I have been a member (lurker) since '02
MW
I'm removing a large roof with the same asbestos shingles you picture.
Atas is the closest product I could find,but the owners decided to replace with slate with just a square butt.Sacrificed the diamond look for a 100 year roof.
Good luck
How many of them are salvageable? Might be the only way I'm going to get them.
Atlas makes a round bottom shingle, regular 3 tab with round tabs. Looks ok on their website, but still not what I'm after.
Joe H
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I'm just starting to remove these tiles,but they're treated as special waste here in Maine.I had to become licensed in order to remove them,and have to wrap them in two layers of 6 mil poly in order to dispose of them.
They were installed over cedar shingles so they are pretty cupped and worn.I'm salvaging some for repairs to other roofs of this vintage but most are headed to a secure landfill.
Even though these are non friable it's still regarded as a hazardous material and regulated by the DEP.
We're putting on new North Country Black slate of 10x 16 inch size
"This info is from June of '98 that was faxed to me by the shingle manufacturer.Globe Building Materials"FYIThey went out of business two or three years ago.Rich BeckmanAnother day, another tool.
Those are what we called Dutch Lap shingles ,different animal then the asbestos/cement .
once you have crossed the line you can't go back,we all had our first time,it will always be special! go ahead you can post all you want,it will just never be as good as the first. larryhand me the chainsaw, i need to trim the casing just a hair.
If you contacted Johns Manville, could they direct you to replacements?
JM sold the biz to Supradur & they went belly up too, is what I've been able to find. So far........
Joe H
I was afraid of something like that when someone mentioned lawsuits and bankruptcy.
Do a search for asbestor shingles........half the hits are for lawyers.
Joe H
I'm assumimg you're joking--the shingles being necessary for the afterlife maybe?
Where are you located? My Dad who is 80 this year started roofing in the early 50's in southwestern CT. A product that looks exactly like what you have there was manufactured in Stratford, CT by a company called TILO (ty-low) and were called something like Diamond-Lock. They were not available to the average contractor. They either had their own installation crews or you had to be a certified installer.
I don't know exactly when but they stopped producing that shingle a long time ago. And the company also went out of business.
A side note: They also produced a standard three-tab shingle which anyopne could purchase. These shingles had a slightly different feature in that the slots were slightly wider than other brands and had a square rather than rounded top. These shingles went by the name of TRIPPLE "A". They were absolutly the best shingle made at the time but hard to sell due to name recognition. I can find you post-WWII homes that still have these shingles on them today.
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How many do you need, and how soon. I have about 2 dozen on hand right now, and where are you. I have turned down a few hundred this last year.
I'm in SW Utah. I'm not kidding about the lawyers either. Every search for these things turns up hundreds of hits & a good portion are bulletin board questions about how dangerous are they? Is it safe to buy a house with them on it?
Lawyers & more lawyers..........and then people looking to repair their roof needing a few to a bunch. And Bob Vila's bulletin board. What a crap place that is. Some funny people posting nonsense answers there.
I'd guess if you have some Ebay might be a place to sell them individually.
How many does it take to a square? I'm not sure they are all the same size that I've seen locally, but they're pretty good sized.
When it stops snowing I'm going to go take more pics and see what I have missed.
Those metal ones may be the closest thing to the look, but I haven't seen any in the flesh.
Rich, Globe didn't turn up on any search I did, so out of business isn't a surprise.
Joe H
Oh, I get it now--lawyers so you can sue the asbestos shingle suppliers. I was thinking you were talking about a lawyer "putting out his shingle" needing asbestos ones in Hell! [No offense to lawyers intended.]