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Window in tub/shower wall. Recommend product.

Gene_Davis | Posted in General Discussion on December 25, 2009 03:20am

A window is desired in a bathroom, and the only place to put it is in the tub/shower wall. See the pic attached. What is shown is a glider window, specified as an all-Ultrex unit from Marvin Windows. No wood, sash or frame. All components are pultruded fiberglass, just like the to-the-weather frame parts of an Andersen Frenchwood hinged patio door. The way the config is recommended for a slider in this application, is for the sash joint to be on the side away from the showerhead. No problems that way. Jamb extensions and and sill will be either cut stone or solid surface material. Although the pic shows casings, there will be none. Tile surround will join to jamb extensions and sill, with adequate sealant detailing done. What other window products (no vinyl please) might be considered here?

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  1. frammer52 | Dec 25, 2009 03:23pm | #1

    I know you said no vinyl, but this is the one application where vinyl does a better job than any alternatives, IMHO.

  2. Honeymoon | Dec 25, 2009 03:57pm | #2

    Tile surround will join to jamb extensions and sill, with adequate sealant detailing done

    I'd like to see that detail. Better with solid material casing and a sill that protudes past the tile imho.

    1. sisyphus | Dec 25, 2009 04:00pm | #3

      You make some good points. The window on the shower side should be detailed as if it is the outside of the house.

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      Gene_Davis | Dec 25, 2009 04:33pm | #4

      Honeymoon, you said "I'd like
      Honeymoon, you said "I'd like to see that detail. Better with solid material casing and a sill that protudes past the tile imho."

      I said the detailing would be adequate, and that includes materials and techniques.

      You show me yours first, and then maybe I'll show you mine. But the topic here is the window, so any information you may have as re that, is welcome. Your sniping at my "details," which I did not even reveal except to say they would be "adequate," is unwelcome.

      'Tis not the season to be sniping at strangers.

      1. Sbds | Dec 25, 2009 04:42pm | #5

        Gene,

        I went with solid vinyl, awning type. I framed it with azek and have had no problems.

      2. Honeymoon | Dec 25, 2009 09:36pm | #7

        Gene, I as many people have tried to play along with you all these years. You make posts all drawn up and engineered to gain acceptance or perhaps to test us, or perhaps yet because deep down inside you are unsure of what it is you are proposing.

        I've done enough of these to know what the hell I am talking about after 30 years. Maybe someone knows better, No doubt there is.

        Perhaps it is you. Oh, that's right, you are asking the question. Not just another hit and run Gene Davis question, but a question just the same.

        No one is sniping Gene. You have it all figured out and drawn before you even ask the question. I just asked to see the detail of what I think is a poor detail. maybe it isn't depending on what you can show me(us).

        Who's being snippy??

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          Gene_Davis | Dec 25, 2009 10:02pm | #8

          30 years, huh? You've really
          30 years, huh? You've really been around the block. Doing these back in about '79? No leaks since then?

          Impressive.

          If you want to discuss surround details, start your own thread.

          1. Honeymoon | Dec 26, 2009 07:42am | #9

            Ur way or the highway Gene, that's a great tool for gathering information.

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    Matt | Dec 25, 2009 05:39pm | #6

    obviously it has to be either tempered glass or at least 60" above the drain...

  4. k1c | Dec 29, 2009 10:04am | #10

    Is this brand slider better made? I think the sliders have reputation for being leaky. The track also may hold water, even if condensation water. I had double pane (no gas insulation, just dessicant in the spacer) window made for a bathroom and it looks good. Sorry I don't know the name for this kind of window. I mean that this has no moving parts. It is just glass fitted into the frame.

    I used vinyl double hung for my own and devised a curtain over it anyway just in case condensation drips between the sashes and freeze in the winter. Hope this helps.

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    PeterJ | Dec 29, 2009 10:46am | #11

    Gene, does window have to open?

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      Gene_Davis | Dec 29, 2009 11:39am | #12

      It sure would be nice if some or all of that window could open. This place is to be a summer camp house, mostly, and it would be nice to hear the birds and the breeze in the big white pines close by.

      The better alternative seems to be a Pella product, their "Impervia" window, available in awning config. What might be used is a factory-mulled pair of these, the one nearest the showerhead fixed, the away one operable.

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        PeterJ | Dec 29, 2009 12:09pm | #13

        Sounds like you're on the
        Sounds like you're on the right track if operable windows are a necessity. There's such a potential for a mildewy mess in the frame nooks and crannies, I'd be wary. What ever is used I'd suggest sloping the sill to shower... vigilant cleaning too.

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