I’ve got a client with double-hung, wood sashed, 1 over 1 double glazed windows.
These windows are 25 years old, and most of the double glazed seals have failed.
The jamb liners are aluminum, and a lot of the tensioning springs are broken. The sashes and frames are fine.
Of course, the manufacturer’s name is unknown.
So far, I’ve gotten these addresses to check out Monday:
http://www.loewen.com/site.nsf/customer/replacement
http://www.replacement-window-center.com/quote.htm
http://www.marvin.com/story/press/3.html
http://www.jeld-wen.com/windows/wood/caradco/
Caradco makes a “Zap Pack” product that includes both sashes and new track custom fit to your existing frame. Request name of local distibutor from caradco.com
http://www.thewindowman.com/sashkits.htm
Marvin E-Z Tilt Pack
Weathershield Sash Replacement Kit
http://www.kkvw.com/press_releases_dhreplsashkit.shtml
Kolbe & Kolbe
http://www.crestlinewindows.com/whatwemake/crestfitsash.html
If anyone has any others, or tips and techniques for doing this, I’d love to have ’em.
Thanks,
BB
EliphIno!
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I have used Marvin sash kits and they work well. I now use Hurd and am very happy with them. Hurd's web site sux so you have to go through a dealer.
Oh yeah, I've Hurd of them<G> EliphIno!
I'll give another endorsement for the Marvin TiltPacs. They can get a little pricy in some cases, but they are nice quality and work well.
I'll give an A-Men to the Marvins. Just be careful measuring.
Do that right and you got a new window in 15 minutes!
Eric
Thats good to hear! My Marvins are two and a half weeks away for my own house. And with the temps we've been having, they can't arrive a minute too soon!
The pricing, seemed to me to be a little steep, about what a smaller Anderson window would run, but the simple cut and paste installation beats whole new windows anyday. Plus, Marvin is great at the custom light configurations.Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
Thanks for the replies. Is it safe to assume the Marvin and Hurd kits will fit other companies jambs? EliphIno!
Marvins will fit just about any existing window. I did a job a couple of years ago where i installed TiltPcs in a 80 yr. old house. Just rip out the old sashes, install the jamb liners, and snap in the sashes ( OK, maybe I simplified that a bit ). Double check your measurements before ordering, and check the angle of the window sill for ordering ( they cut the lower sash to match)
Of course, if the existing jambs are shot, forget about the new sashes
Thanks for the sill angle tip, they probably will want the new sashes to shut tight! EliphIno!
What size are your windows? Maybe I can give you $ ideas based on the three sizes i bought.Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
I've installed the Caradco "Zap Packs" before, and am O.K. with them. I wouldn't say they're great quality, but they aren't bad.
They're the only ones available around here that have wood on the inside. That's the only reason I used them. The wood interiors fit in better in my old house.
Strip mining prevents forest fires.
Yeah, these have gotta be all wood (inside & out) since everyting is stained inside and out. Was the price right? EliphIno!
I don't recall what each one ran. I have one on order now -Due in by the end of the month. I'll try to remember to let you know how much it was.Q: Have you heard about the new supersensitive condoms? A: After you leave, they stay and talk to her.
I got my Caradco "zap pack" a couple of days ago. It ended up being $200 for a 28" by 52" window. (I think)
I can post pictures if you're interested.
The window was wood on the inside, but clad on the outside. So it may not be what you're wanting anyway.It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived [George S. Patton]
Yeah, I might need all wood with vinyl jamb liners, haven't heard back from the folks, so it may not matter :-(
Was that price for two double hung sashes? And, did you go through a lumberyard, or directly to Caradco?
Thanks, and let me know how they go in. EliphIno!
fyi.... one other thing you need to check for with these kits is if the window frame is square. we put these in a 200 year old farmhouse that had sills and heads up to 1 1/2" out of level.
the only way to make it work was to fit the sashes to the head and sill. this required using a wood painted sash that was a special order from Marvin. The bottom and top rails had to be ordered extra wide for trimming. the bottom weatherstrip was a royal pain. there is some play with the stock sashes, but not much. aluminum cladding would not have been possible here.
it was a stone farmhouse so a total window replacement would have been outrageous (versus just nuts for what we did)
10 years later, the homeowner is still happy......
carpenter in transition
I already put the thing in. And yes, it was a double hung. I bought it from the local lumberyard.
It didn't go in bad, I guess. They sure make it to go in tight. If I had to do it over again, I think I would have ordered the unit 1/4" narrower than I did. Would have made the units snap in and out a lot easier.If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electrician can be delighted and musicians denoted?
I did an entire house of over 30 windows a cpl of years ago using the Marvin pac....Too easy to be true and worked like a dream. The price was incidental considering how easy it was to do and how well they performed.
I also used Touch N Foam in the cavities of each window at the customers request.
BE warm
andy
My life is my practice!
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OK, I'm another believer!
I just installed a few Marving Tilt Pacs, and they are really easy, and great looking. This is, by far, THE way to go on older house that need new windows, but require windows with good asthetics.
Mine look like they are original. Except for the 237 layers of peeling paint that are mssing!!Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
I've used Marvin's Tilt-Pak, and Weathershield. I like the Weathershield a little better for 2 reasons. I wanted Simulated divided lites with well defined muntin profiles (I guess that doesn't matter to you). Also, the Weathershield have routed out "cups" for your fingers to lift the windows open. With the Marvins. you have to push on the muntins, or top of the sash which I don't really like.
Either way, I liked getting the aluminum clad exterior and pre-primed interior. I got the higher quality of both lines, so neither of them were cheap.
The first kit took 2 hours or so (removing old weights, stuffing in insulation, interrupted by kids), but I could do it in 45 minutes if I had to now.
Edited 2/11/2004 7:52:28 PM ET by HOMEBREW01