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Wood around recessed lights

Chucky | Posted in General Discussion on April 7, 2008 02:11am

Hi,

I have 4″ non-IC recessed lights using PAR20 (50W halogen) bulbs to install in a ceiling space.  How close to any wood can the fixture come to ?   The fixture might touch some of the 1×3 strapping or cross-bracing in some locations.  I figure it should be fine since the drywall ceiling has a paper backing and it does not burst into flames.

I also have some 3″ recessed fixtures using 35W or 50W GU10 halogen bulbs.  These are going into a cabinet with a plywood soffit.  Is using plywood going to pose a fire-hazard ?

Thanks

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    Ted W. | Apr 07, 2008 03:26am | #1

    I set puck lights into the plywood tops of cabinets and the wood gets warm if they're left on for a long time. I don't knwo if this is the same thing, but they're designed for the purpose.

    Sorry for the bad photo, but it shows what I mean. The second photo is from the internet, just to show a dis-assembled one.

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    Edited 4/6/2008 8:27 pm by Ted W.

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    Jeff_Clarke | Apr 07, 2008 04:04am | #2

    Can you determine if the fixtures are certified by ASTM-E283 for air tight construction?   Like this one - http://www.cooperlighting.com/specfiles/pdf/Halo/H36LVTATspecsheet.pdf  That would probably answer your question about total enclosure.

    I don't *think* you have a problem with the proximity to wood but you can always call the manufacturer's technical hot line - I would.

     

    Jeff

     

    1. Chucky | Apr 09, 2008 05:04pm | #3

      thanks to you both.   The manufacturer hasn't replied to my questions yet so I went and did a mockup in my basement using the same plywood bulkhead.  The 50W GU10 bulb has been on for 6 hours now and I can still touch the outside of the can.  It's warm but nothing worry about, i don't think.  The plywood itself is even cooler.  I will also be using 20W or 35W bulbs instead of the rated 50W (it's for accent lighting inside a cabinet), so that should make things even better. 

  3. ampermc | Apr 10, 2008 10:34pm | #4

    As long as the cans are rated "IC" (for insulation contact), you are OK. IC-rated fixtures are rated for direct contact with combustible materials. They will also have a thermal breaker that will trip at 90 deg C., far less than the temperature at which wood or paper will combust.

    But...I am not a professional electrical inspector, so check with your local compliance people. You municipality may have specific requirements.

    [edit] I see you are using non-IC fixtures after re-reading. If it won't be a large expense, replace them with IC fixtures, and you won't ever have to worry about it. Otherwise, chek with the manufacturer for minimum clearance from combustible materials.



    Edited 4/10/2008 3:36 pm ET by ampermc

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