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   calvin_ | Feb 28, 2002 02:49pm | #1

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   You can make your own wood edge or a laminate distributor should be able to order you what you want with a leg on the side that will slip in to a groove you rout on the edge of the table. The bit can be had from them also. Good registration of the groove is the hard part.

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   ken_hill | Feb 28, 2002 11:38pm | #2

   *Wilsonart has the stock and a line of tools to do edging- expensive tools.

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   Jeff_Clarke_ | Feb 28, 2002 11:40pm | #3

   *ed - Why don't you see if you can get 1-1/4" or 1 1/2" diameter round oak handrail and rip it down the center?Just my 2 cents.Jeff

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   Dave_Richeson | Mar 01, 2002 01:19am | #4

   *Wilsonart has the Perma- edge system. If you buy thier tools the system is expensive.The other alternative is to remove the egde band on the existing top. Plane or sand the edge so that the top p-lam is flush to edge. Purchase some 6/4 oak stock, or use 3/4 oak if you will settle for less than a full bulnose. Glue and nail the new nosing to the counter top, being carefull to align the top edge, and finish to what ever profile you like with a router. Be sure to set the nails a little deeper than normal so that you don't nick them with the router bit.I build perma edge tops all the time. The system is designed for new work. It is a nailess aplication for either wood or beveled edge laminates. Set up is critical, as is edge preparation. I would suggest that without some trail and error experience, perma edge is not the way to go for your application. This is not a put down, just a caution. When you only get one shot at doing it right,as on an existing top, you don't have any wiggle room to learn. The second method I decribed above would be my first choice for old work. At least you can pull it off and try agian,if you don't like it. Try pulling off a perma edge molding after it is glued and most of the time you end up ordering more molding. Dave

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   Brian_Smith | Mar 01, 2002 07:00am | #5

   *dave,do you have contact info for wilsonart or online link describing their system tools? a web search turned up individual shops or franchises selling countertops or the edging, but nothing about the system.

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   Mr._Pita | Mar 02, 2002 01:39am | #6

   *Wilsonart's #:1-800-433-3222 I couldn't find any details on their web site (http://www.wilsonart.com/index.html) but it might be buried somewhere. If I had to guess, you might need to be a "Smart Source" fabricator. Their web site alludes to how that group has more unrestricted access to its products.

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   Dave_Richeson | Mar 02, 2002 03:17am | #7

   *Brian& Mr. Pita,I am not very smart sometimes, and certinly not a "smart source" fabricator. My cabinet material supplier is a Wilsonart vendor. Any of the Wilsonart suppliers in your area should be able to get the fabrication booklet for the perma edge stystem, and possibly give you a schedule of seminars that you can attend. That is if they still hold the seminars. The product is at least 8 to 10 years old and they may have greatly reduced the number of training seminars they are now holding.I attended one of them about 8 years ago and that was the extent of my "training". It was free at the time. One warning about the seminars is that it is as much a sales pitch for the tools as it is training. I did not purchase the tools at the time, and only later did I purchase the corner template guide.Most of the tools, you may already have in your shop in one form or another. The system they pitched back then was set up around a PC model 690 router and a dedicated disk sander. Maybe my learning curve would have been shorter if I had purchase thier tools, but I don't easily part with that much money with only the hope that it will generate enough income to justify it.If you wish, I will check with my supplier and see if they have any of the books left and what he knows about Wilsonart's support of the training seminars.E-mail me . I don't want to highjack this mans thread.Dave