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   Built_By_MAC | May 27, 2009 02:37am | #1

   cool roof, where's the bottom of the deck?
   you photoshopped out the structural framing beneath...

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   BobbyParks | May 27, 2009 06:37am | #2

   Actually we used a anti gravity framing system proprietary to our company... or maybe I did photoshop the shrubbery.

   Pretty obvious in the last photo huh?

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   heynoweasy | May 30, 2009 09:31am | #3

   That's my question as well-- you didn't cantilever this thing right? What would be the point other than proving it can be done. You must have removed the post and joist framing from the photos and thrown in some shrubs.

   Why did you choose Azek? It does look like a great product, and with all the lawsuits against Trex and Timbertech, I'm also trying to decide between ipe and the Azek. The Azek decking material is new for the company, right?

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   BobbyParks | May 30, 2009 04:17pm | #4

   heynoweasy , structuring and transfferring loads, controling cantilever distances, and incorporating angled beams for radiused decks is not difficult to do and the simple point in this case is to cover up an unsitely unfinsihed landscape area below this decks. When you use Photo Shop you don't remove stuff you cover over it using one or more techniques.

   It's more matter of having a new toy to play with called Photoshop and not covering up anything done incorrectly.

   If you care to provide an emai,.address thru my website http://www.peachtreedecksandporches.net I'll be glad to shoot you over some detailed structural shots that will show a very clean, easy, and efficient way to build and structure radiused decks.

   I've tried to add a couple to this posting but I'm getting a pop up that says becaused the contest is over I can't do any editing.

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   BobbyParks | May 30, 2009 04:29pm | #5

   Heynoweasy,

   Forgot the second part of your question.

   I really like Azek and a short list of other pvc type of products. This includes Azek, Sensibuilt, and Trex Escapes.

   Azek came onto the market as Procell years ago and was picked up/ bought out, by Azek who has been a major player in the pvc trim industry. It was a good match up and increased the production capacity.

   Sensibuilt is under the Fiber Composirtes umbrella and some of the peolpinvolved were orginnally involved with Procell.

   Theres a difference between these products and most typical composites which are made thru a combination of wood flour and recycled plastic, These can be good and reliable products but I consider them to be in a differnt catagory from the listed products.

   I believe the pvc products out perform most when it comes to the "scratch, scuff, and stain test. Most do not absorb heat and they simply take less to clean up.

   What we're all hoping to see is the introduction of a more natural looking pvc option which hopefully is not far down the road.

   I believ you would be very happy with these products and the ease of use. Vey light and good fastening systems.

   I'm very picky about products and we use these and only Brazilian hardwoods and very little pressure treated decking.

   They all have strong backers in term of corporations etc

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   heynoweasy | Jul 19, 2009 08:22am | #6

   Hi Bobby, thanks for posting the photos. I've been taking Architectural exams and LEED exams for 6 weeks, hence my silence. This radiused deck project is really beautiful and appears highly functional. Thanks a lot for sharing all the info on my questions regarding the structural design and your material choices. As I said, really great work. Dave

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   Schrankster | Aug 14, 2009 05:03pm | #7

   A new member here with what I think is a new question. Azek products were installed as fascia material on our condo association buildings. The installer didn't cut and glue the scarf joints properly. The result was joint failure. My question is this: Can aluminum be installed over this "problem" or must the Azek material be removed and replaced with wood? The concern centers around the expansion/contraction of the Azek vs: aluminum. Seems to me that all product (Azek-wood_aluminum) have different expansion/contraction properties. Any comments/help/experiences would be most helpful. We're talking about a lot of fascia here! Thanks.

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   hokiepokiegal | Oct 20, 2009 08:36pm | #8

   We are trying to choose a decking material - either Azek or a natural hardwood. Love the natural beauty of the ipe wood -recently saw a new home with Batu wood on the front porch. Can you tell me the difference between these 2 woods? Also, my deck gets quite a bit of sunlight...do you think the ipe or batu would hold up well?
   Thanks!

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   BobbyParks | Nov 03, 2009 04:23pm | #9

   hokiepokiegal

   Azek or pvcs have up until now provided good performance with a marginal look , at least nothing that would compare to a freshly oiled Ipe or hardwood deck. Hardwoods definitely require a maintainence effort to keep "the look" but you know they'll last.

   Not sure what your build schedule is like but there are some really nice products coming down the pike that will provide the perforamnnce of pvc with a true hardwood look. In fact Fiberon has a line available now called Horizons in both Rosewood (Cumaru) and another in Ipe color. This product has an inner composite core (green builder friendly) and an outer shell that comes with a 10 year color warrabty. We've used it and it is very durable. It is very scratch and scuff resistent.

   As with most products it has a limited history but I do believe Fiberon is on track with this particular line. Azek and others are coming out with new versions that provide the hardwood look with cap stock products. These technologies are where the industry is going

   . Although you'll definitely get multiple opinions when it comes to "wood or alternatives" I'm a believer in a short list of alternatives that will now provide both a performance and good look.