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Patrick’s Barn: Siding for the Holidays

By Patrick McCombe
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This is the north side of the building with the siding finished. Astute observers will notice the varying amounts of exposed pier, revealing how I squared the building on its foundation. I suggested installing a skirtboard to a coworker as a way to hide the variation, but he thought a series of potted plants would be better. I think I agree. 

It’s been a while since I last posted, but progress on the barn continues. Over the holidays, I used some vacation days to make a big push on the siding. We were able to finish two elevations and a big chunk of another. This might not sound like much, but keep in mind we also had to square and mill the siding edges for a shiplap joint and prime all sides of the boards before they could be nailed to the building.

My guess is that we milled and primed about half of the siding before we started installing it, and milled the second half between Christmas and New Year’s. The weather was unseasonably warm for the end of December, which made the process easier and more enjoyable. Even with the unusually warm temperatures, I had to use a shellac-based primer for treating field cuts. Its alcohol-based formula means you can use it in temperatures down to 0 degrees F. 

I think the installed siding looks great, but unfortunately, we don’t have enough to finish the whole building, so we’re going to have to switch to something else for the back side and the front gable. Cedar shingles would be traditional and look great, but the expense and labor to install them isn’t as appealing.

I’m a little scared to say on FineHomebuilding.com that I’m considering vinyl, as I know many of you find it detestable; however, I’ve installed acres of the stuff, and I think it has a lot going for it. It has a built-in rainscreen, it goes up fast, and it’s inexpensive and prefinished, all of which sounds very appealing to me at this point.

What do you guys think?

You can read more about my barn here.

 

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  1. Scarecrow3331 | Jan 09, 2012 11:06pm | #1

    what about fiber cement siding for the rest of it? you can get it prefinished as well.

  2. res | Jan 10, 2012 07:59am | #2

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Vinyl? If it goes up, we'll visit at midnight.

    What about metal?

  3. Aroonstock | Jan 11, 2012 08:44am | #3

    Patrick,
    The barn looks great. I won't tease you for going vinyl, though as you've seen my house, you'll know I vote for cedar.

    It's your place, do what works.

  4. rurunene | Jan 12, 2012 03:46pm | #4

    Looks nice but I think you will run into problems since there is no ventilation behind the siding. If you put the siding right onto the tar paper you are sure to get problems sooner or later.

  5. patrick_mccombe | Jan 13, 2012 08:45am | #5

    Thanks for the comment rurunene, but I think you're wrong. For starters, the pine siding (which is a naturally decay resistant species) is primed on all sides, preventing it from taking on moisture. The felt behind the siding is somewhat wrinkled, so it allows any infiltrated water to work it's way down. If that weren't enough, each board has two continuous drainage channels form eave to grade by means of the shiplap joint, which isn't tight together. And I have a real overhang. Destructive testing of bad stucco jobs has revealed you can do just about everything wrong and if you have a decent overhang, the building is going to perform pretty well. Roofing felt, what you describe as tarpaper, is an amazing material. It can take on water and release it as conditions change. In short, I think I'm covered.

  6. Firthbuilders | Jan 14, 2012 01:33am | #6

    great looking barn! i like the idea of corrugated tin - i've seen some bright red stuff that would look great. I think it has some good potential to be used in a lot more non-conventional settings. i've used it for roofing - gets some good coverage quickly.

  7. Cosmosays | Jan 16, 2012 08:20am | #7

    How about hardie panel with embossed stucco finish. It's inexpensive, durable, easy to cut out for windows, use leftover siding for trim accents & cladding, it'll go with your wood siding, takes & holds paint well, covers a lot of sq.ft. fast. Worth a look.

  8. patrick_mccombe | Jan 16, 2012 08:38am | #8

    I agree, Firthbuilders. I realy like the look of steel ag panels, especially as roofing. It looks great on modern buildings too. There'd be a lot of waste on the gables though. I used a plain galvalume version on my last home's cross-gabled roof and had a bunch of triangles left over.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I think more people should consider screw-down metal panels for roofing and siding. It's a great material.

  9. ChrisMax | Jan 16, 2012 08:42am | #9

    I used NuCedar PVC siding on my house and it looks great! Even after people touch it they still think it's cedar. The only concern is it comes only in 16' lengths and will show gaps in cold weather unless for longer lengths two pieces are glued together with Azek cement or a pvc cement. The Azek glue gives more working time. It's also available in a lot of colors that can be done at the factory. I also love the maintenance factor as opposed to real cedar. Anyway that's my two cents!

  10. Kaart | Jan 16, 2012 08:45am | #10

    Suggest finishing off the building by automating the sliding doors. Check out the videos at http://propeldoors.com

  11. patrick_mccombe | Jan 16, 2012 08:50am | #11

    Two votes for fiber-cement, Cosmo, Scarecrow; at least one coworker made the same suggestion. I'll look into it. I've never worked with it, though.

    I recently photographed an affordably-built house in Asheville, NC with Hardi panel. It looked good.

  12. Scarecrow3331 | Jan 18, 2012 08:32pm | #12

    I've used hardiplank a few times. I also plan on using it on the new workshop I'm building this winter/spring. I like the way it goes up, but cutting it is a bit of a dusty mess. Diablo makes a circ. saw blade that I'm pretty eager to try though. Also, the prefinished siding has a good warranty.

  13. mooersrealty | Apr 10, 2013 07:09pm | #13

    Getting ready to side a big Maine barn and enjoying your posts for ideas.

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